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A mountainous country loses its last glacier

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The last of Venezuela’s glaciers has disappeared, scientists say, despite an unusual government effort to save it.
The demise of La Corona, downgraded to an ice field after shrinking from more than 1,100 acres to less than five, makes this South American nation the only one in the Andes range without a glacier — but it’s unlikely to be the last. Scientists, who long predicted the end of La Corona, say warming temperatures will render the entire Northern Andes, which snakes through Venezuela, Colombia and Ecuador, glacier-free by 2050.


“Our tropical glaciers are disappearing quickly since the Seventies,” said Alejandra Melfo, an astrophysicist at the University of the Andes in Mérida. “Now people are feeling the absence.”

As recently as 40 years ago, Venezuela boasted at least three glaciers, slow-moving masses of ice seen by scientists as sentinels of climate change. Although the country lies in the tropics, its southernmost point less than 50 miles from the equator, it also contains the northeastern end of the Andes, with 11 peaks rising past 15,000 feet above sea level.


The trio presided over Sierra Nevada national park in northwestern Venezuela, visible from Mérida. But as climate change caused temperatures to rise, scientists say, La Concha (The Conch) disappeared in 1990, and La Columna (The Column) followed in 2017. That left La Corona (The Crown), clinging to Humboldt Peak three miles up, the lone holdout.

In 2020, Melfo and three colleagues reported that La Corona, too, would soon go extinct.


“It is difficult to predict how much longer it will be,” they wrote in a research paper. “However, we can be certain that Venezuela will be the first Andean country to lose all of its glaciers in the next few years.”

The disappearance of the glaciers will not have a direct impact on the fresh water capacity of nearby rivers, Melfo said. The Venezuelan remnants stored far less water than the larger masses found farther north or south.

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The government of President Nicolás Maduro announced in December it was purchasing some 83,000 square feet of geothermal cover to safeguard what was left of La Corona. Mérida governor Jehyson Guzmán described the effort as “a grain of sand to provide protection to the last glacier in Venezuela” by reducing “the incidence of the sun’s rays on the rock that surrounds the glacier to prevent its heating.”
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The government said the polypropylene mesh, used to keep ski slopes cool, had been deployed in Switzerland to protect glaciers. But researchers at the University of Fribourg concluded in 2021 that the method was unfeasible. “A hypothetical application to the larger scale shows that saving Alpine glaciers by technological solutions is neither achievable nor affordable,” they wrote.

Scientists in Venezuela, meanwhile, warned that the cover would do more harm than good. “It is an illusory thing, a hallucination, it is completely absurd,” Julio Cesar Centeno, an adviser to the U.N. Conference on Environment and Development, told Agence France-Presse in March. He warned it would release harmful microplastics into the environment, and said he and others planned to ask Venezuela’s supreme court to stop the effort.
Neither the governor of Mérida nor the Ministry of Ecosocialism responded to requests for comment.


The International Cryosphere Climate Initiative, a network of researchers and policymakers focused on the Earth’s glaciers, ice sheets, sea ice and snow, says it’s not too late to take meaningful action against future degradation.

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“Humanity’s failure to cut CO2 emissions means that more eventual glacier loss is already locked in,” the organization posted last week on X. “But we can still save many if emissions are rapidly cut, which will have huge benefits for livelihoods and energy, water and food security across the world.”
In Mérida, the disappearance of La Corona was not unexpected.
“We had said goodbye to him a long time ago,” said Jayme Bautista, a mountaineer and environmental consultant. “It’s sad, but inevitable.”
“We stopped seeing ice on Bolívar Peak from Mérida in 2020,” said Luis Daniel Llambi, an ecologist at the University of the Andes and one of Melfo’s co-authors. “At this speed, we could have no ice left in just five years.”
 
well I'll be long gone before the earth turns into a ball of fire

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Indians lived in Florida 12,000 years ago, when Iowa was buried under ice and smelled better.

The coasts moved.
The glaciers moved.
So did the people.
i don't disagree...i just think this is an economic problem for communities and countries whose power and influence - locally and globally - is based on (at least in part) the huge investments and developments we've spent 100+ years building in areas that are vulnerable to these impacts

it'll also create a lot of global instability...not great for maintaining the american empire
 
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Indians lived in Florida 12,000 years ago, when Iowa was buried under ice and smelled better.

The coasts moved.
The glaciers moved.
So did the people.
How many times do we have to tell you, it's not just the disappearance of the glaciers and the heating, it the speed at which it is increasing. What took tens of thousands of years before is now happening within decades. When the Himalayan glaciers are gone and the Indus, Ganges and Mekong Rivers run dry and the mideast is too hot for human occupation, where will the people move?
 
i don't disagree...i just think this is an economic problem for communities and countries whose power and influence - locally and globally - is based on (at least in part) the huge investments and developments we've spent 100+ years building in areas that are vulnerable to these impacts

Go back 300 years and what huge investments and developments do you find?
I posit nothing like you’ll witness if you could go 300 years forward.

it'll also create a lot of global instability...not great for maintaining the american empire

I think the American Empire is a money sink and not worth the return.

When was global stability?

Shift this cusp of mankind’s development just a few millennia, a geologic eye blink, and we’d be decrying the impending submergence of Doggerland, and the loss for the great port at the confluence of the Thames and Rhine:

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How many times do we have to tell you, it's not just the disappearance of the glaciers and the heating, it the speed at which it is increasing. What took tens of thousands of years before is now happening within decades.
Google ‘abrupt climate change’.

If we don’t prevent the next ice age the Canucks will be forced to move here full time.
 
Indians lived in Florida 12,000 years ago, when Iowa was buried under ice and smelled better.

The coasts moved.
The glaciers moved.
So did the people.
Where are we going to put millions of Indians (Indian subcontinent) when it becomes intolerable for them?

We already have Central Americans trying to enter the US and that doesn't seem to be going so well, does it?

We're already looking at a clash of nations building slowly but surely. The migrations of the coming decades/centuries will make the migrations of the last thousand years look like a field trip.

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Google ‘abrupt climate change’.

If we don’t prevent the next ice age the Canucks will be forced to move here full time.
So humanity did nothing wrong? No pollution? No interference? No shame? Guilt? I guess everything is alright.
 
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