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Leadership comes in many forms. A starting quarterback should definitely assert himself in more than just the offensive huddle. It is definitely an indictment on Rudock.Originally posted by 3rd Generation Hawk:
I don't know how much an indictment that is on Rudock's leadership ability. After all, Ott probably hasn't spent much time in the offensive huddle.
Agreed I don't think Adrian Clayborn would ever have expressed wonder if Stanzi was a leader...Originally posted by clhawks00:
Leadership comes in many forms. A starting quarterback should definitely assert himself in more than just the offensive huddle. It is definitely an indictment on Rudock.Originally posted by 3rd Generation Hawk:
I don't know how much an indictment that is on Rudock's leadership ability. After all, Ott probably hasn't spent much time in the offensive huddle.
Originally posted by Hawknado:
Ott echoing the thoughts of everyone concerning Rudocks play the last couple years
This is the most telling comment probably ever to come out of the football building in KF's tenure IMO. The fact that Ott doesn't know or won't say what kind of a leader JR was tells me that the team didn't have total confidence in him and probably why KF and Co made the switch to CJ.Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:
Is he a leader?
"I don't know. You'd have to ask someone else."
Well we know it wasn't because CJ "gave us the best chance to win" in Kirk's eyes. He made that clear throughout the season.Originally posted by whatsup12579er:
This is the most telling comment probably ever to come out of the football building in KF's tenure IMO. The fact that Ott doesn't know or won't say what kind of a leader JR was tells me that the team didn't have total confidence in him and probably why KF and Co made the switch to CJ.Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:
Is he a leader?
"I don't know. You'd have to ask someone else."
It means nothing unless you ask him if he feels CJ is a leader.Originally posted by whatsup12579er:
This is the most telling comment probably ever to come out of the football building in KF's tenure IMO. The fact that Ott doesn't know or won't say what kind of a leader JR was tells me that the team didn't have total confidence in him and probably why KF and Co made the switch to CJ.Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:
Is he a leader?
"I don't know. You'd have to ask someone else."
Great point. Think any of the local reporters will catch on and actually follow up with this story?Originally posted by Titanhawk2:
It means nothing unless you ask him if he feels CJ is a leader.Originally posted by whatsup12579er:
This is the most telling comment probably ever to come out of the football building in KF's tenure IMO. The fact that Ott doesn't know or won't say what kind of a leader JR was tells me that the team didn't have total confidence in him and probably why KF and Co made the switch to CJ.Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:
Is he a leader?
"I don't know. You'd have to ask someone else."
Dochterman wrote a piece on it, but added little to the discussion.Originally posted by whatsup12579er:Great point. Think any of the local reporters will catch on and actually follow up with this story?Originally posted by Titanhawk2:Originally posted by whatsup12579er:This is the most telling comment probably ever to come out of the football building in KF's tenure IMO. The fact that Ott doesn't know or won't say what kind of a leader JR was tells me that the team didn't have total confidence in him and probably why KF and Co made the switch to CJ.Originally posted by Aegon_Targaryen:
Is he a leader?
"I don't know. You'd have to ask someone else."
It means nothing unless you ask him if he feels CJ is a leader.
Answering a question honestly about a player who quit on his team?Originally posted by ichawk24:
Somehow Ott is showing leadership with these comments?
These two guys barely knew him, had zero respect, and couldn't manage to stay in the program. And you're basing your opinion on this?Originally posted by greenelite:
I worked briefly with 2 incoming freshman football players (no longer with the team) that came in the same year as Rudock. I'm not going to divulge details, but they were clowning on him and had 0 respect for the future leader of the squad.
You get tired of getting made fun of on the other site for your 'Golden Boy Has Arrived' thread? What is your deal with CJ anyway? Why do you dislike the kid your favorite coach picked over Jake so much? Pretty unhealthy obsession from the looks of it.Originally posted by ichawk24:
These two guys barely knew him, had zero respect, and couldn't manage to stay in the program. And you're basing your opinion on this?Originally posted by greenelite:
I worked briefly with 2 incoming freshman football players (no longer with the team) that came in the same year as Rudock. I'm not going to divulge details, but they were clowning on him and had 0 respect for the future leader of the squad.
The stupidity on these boards knows no bounds.
I'm willing to bet that these two knew him a hell of a lot better than you or anyone else on this board. However, I explicitly said that I did not base my opinion on Rudock on this story. What I'm trying to say is that Ott's statements (also, the way the team reacted to Beathard taking over during 2nd half Pitt, CJ Fied's comments, etc) make sense to me.Originally posted by ichawk24:
These two guys barely knew him, had zero respect, and couldn't manage to stay in the program. And you're basing your opinion on this?Originally posted by greenelite:
I worked briefly with 2 incoming freshman football players (no longer with the team) that came in the same year as Rudock. I'm not going to divulge details, but they were clowning on him and had 0 respect for the future leader of the squad.
The stupidity on these boards knows no bounds.
Originally posted by Auger:
This would go against what a lot of those Rudock and KF supporters have been saying all last season.
So, we talking about Kilroy and Matt Foley?
Please point out what part of:Originally posted by desihawk:
Ott's answers seem matter-of-fact. He is a defensive player and didn't experience JR's leadership qualities first hand. Best he could do is offer hearsay. Too much being extrapolated in this thread.
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It was two of the following.Originally posted by ichawk24:
These two guys barely knew him, had zero respect, and couldn't manage to stay in the program. And you're basing your opinion on this?Originally posted by greenelite:
I worked briefly with 2 incoming freshman football players (no longer with the team) that came in the same year as Rudock. I'm not going to divulge details, but they were clowning on him and had 0 respect for the future leader of the squad.
The stupidity on these boards knows no bounds.
...Originally posted by ThatsFootball:
Please point out what part of:Originally posted by desihawk:
Ott's answers seem matter-of-fact. He is a defensive player and didn't experience JR's leadership qualities first hand. Best he could do is offer hearsay. Too much being extrapolated in this thread.
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"I don't know. You'd have to ask someone else."
seems matter-of-fact to you. That is almost the most non matter-of-fact way he could have answered the question.
Hey, you remember when you were wrong about Rudock? Yeah, almost as bad as when you said the Hawks threw the ball down the field during the 2012 season.Originally posted by heat_dawg:
It was two of the following.Originally posted by ichawk24:
These two guys barely knew him, had zero respect, and couldn't manage to stay in the program. And you're basing your opinion on this?Originally posted by greenelite:
I worked briefly with 2 incoming freshman football players (no longer with the team) that came in the same year as Rudock. I'm not going to divulge details, but they were clowning on him and had 0 respect for the future leader of the squad.
The stupidity on these boards knows no bounds.
Torrey Campbell - Couldn't hack it
Marcus Collins - Couldn't stay out of trouble
Rodney Coe - Couldn't study or eat a salad
Marcus Grant - played as a freshman but then got home sick
Nico Law - Couldn't live up to the HR hype. Yes all the brilliant posters here that knew more than the coaches.
Mikail McCall - Couldn't give a rats ass what he thinks. He serving time?
John Raymon - Couldn't handle Kaz's demeanor
Dean Tsopanades - Never played a snap.