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One last thing. Alabama has led the nation in recruitng the last four years and were in top five the previous years. The last time alabama has been an underdog is 2009. Stars didn't help them much. Piercebacher was a 4star and is starting for the tide as a red shirt freshman.Well I read the article. What a homer article. Did Barta write this bullshit. As far as Tom Lemming, he has lost all credibility with his dumb ass comments. He is supposed to be an analyst and he says stars don't matter. He should be fired on the grounds of being a total dumb ass. Stars don't matter ? What's Iowas record against OSU ? Something like 13 and 43. Please don't bring up dumb ass statements that stars don't matter.
How many high school players are out there that don't need development? Even 4 stars need developmentThe issue that Iowa fans have with this class is that it seems as though all of the current recruits are players that need to be developed. Iowa's coaching staff is banking on several of them developing these players into above average Division 1 players. They have a proven track record of doing this with a few of them but not this many. There has been hype about the number of recruits and how many have committed lately but that means nothing in the world of development. Kirk is gambling and he better hope it pays off or the fan base will be even more ready for a change.
How many high school players are out there that don't need development? Even 4 stars need development
You are correct. They all need development. However, Iowa is taking far too many that need a whole lot of development which makes their job much more difficult and is a game of chance. This has not bode well for them the past couple of years.How many high school players are out there that don't need development? Even 4 stars need development
Lemming knows 50 times more about recruiting than all these armchair experts combined.
The key at Iowa is as Wallace said....getting the right ''fit'' ....good athletes can be made into good players if they stick with the program. Find guys who will stick it out and we will be in the hunt.
As for competing for national honors...the 2002 and 2009 teams could easily have made the playoffs with a good bounce here and there....with typical Iowa recruits.
2 Stars:As far as the "diamond in the rough" thing goes people like to bring up Dallas Clark and Bob Sanders as examples or even Chad Greenway but that's been 9 or 10 years ago. Who are the most recent "diamonds in the rough" guys that have made huge impacts on the field?
2 Stars:
Micah Hyde
Brett Van Sloten
Mike Daniels
Adam Gettis
Karl Klug
Amari Spievey
Anthony Hitchens
I was just answering the question.You go dig for your diamonds in the dirt, I will look for mine in a jewelry store. I like my chances better.
I was just answering the question.
The issue that Iowa fans have with this class is that it seems as though all of the current recruits are players that need to be developed. Iowa's coaching staff is banking on several of them developing these players into above average Division 1 players. They have a proven track record of doing this with a few of them but not this many. There has been hype about the number of recruits and how many have committed lately but that means nothing in the world of development. Kirk is gambling and he better hope it pays off or the fan base will be even more ready for a change.
That's fine, however star ratings are for fans to keep track of. Coaches observe and offer, I believe the star rating is a good barometer. However I look at who offers much more close. This is why I've been skeptical of our recruiting.
Swag, I thought Lemmings stated that some power 5 coaches offer kids just because they have offers, and some don't offer after kid has solid verbals. Does that reduce the importance of offers?
Kirk is good at developing 2 stars, just think what he would be capable of doing with a roster full of studs
Lemming knows 50 times more about recruiting than all these armchair experts combined.
The key at Iowa is as Wallace said....getting the right ''fit'' ....good athletes can be made into good players if they stick with the program. Find guys who will stick it out and we will be in the hunt.
As for competing for national honors...the 2002 and 2009 teams could easily have made the playoffs with a good bounce here and there....with typical Iowa recruits.
As for competing for national honors...the 2002 and 2009 teams could easily have made the playoffs with a good bounce here and there....with typical Iowa recruits.
** Jordan LynchI don't understand the people that defend Iowa's recruiting so vehemently. What is it that they think Iowa knows that all the other power 5 conference schools don't?
As far as the "diamond in the rough" thing goes people like to bring up Dallas Clark and Bob Sanders as examples or even Chad Greenway but that's been 9 or 10 years ago. Who are the most recent "diamonds in the rough" guys that have made huge impacts on the field?
So show us your list of who you have signed.You go dig for your diamonds in the dirt, I will look for mine in a jewelry store. I like my chances better.
So show us your list of who you have signed.
I would if I was a football coach, however I don't need to be to see the talent our coaches have put on the field is lacking.
I also don't need to be a doctor to tell when a woman is 9 months pregnant.
Swag you'd be surprised how difficult that can be, sometimes, even for a doc. Easy call with a 5'6" 120lb woman, not so easy with a 5'1", 250lb woman.[/QUOTE]I also don't need to be a doctor to tell when a woman is 9 months pregnant.