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“it would be better if they were in my assmeat”

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Stay classy, Marines :rolleyes:

Marine intel instructors got caught calling students ‘whore’ and ‘slut’ in private chat. No punishment was recommended​

“There was no accountability here whatsoever."

BY HALEY BRITZKY | PUBLISHED MAY 2, 2022 12:57 PM

Marine Corps and Navy intelligence trainers in Virginia demeaned and made homophobic and sexist comments about their students in a private group chat, according to an official military investigation and text messages obtained by Task & Purpose.

In October 2021, a Marine investigator looked into allegations made against instructors assigned to the Marine Detachment (MARDET) at Dam Neck, which ran the gamut from sexual harassment and inappropriate relationships with students to drinking on the job and forcing students to say phrases like “it is a great day for wieners in my mouth” and “it would be better if they were in my assmeat” during official training.

Screenshots of the group chat obtained by Task & Purpose show instructors making disparaging and inappropriate comments about students, including calling one service member “whore,” “****,” and “slut,” after instructors found her Tinder profile. In another instance, an instructor who escorted a student to the hospital shared a photo of the trainee passed out on a hospital bed, to which another instructor responded that he “looks like a bitch.”

Many of the allegations regarding the language that instructors used about their students in the group chat were substantiated. The investigating officer concluded in the report that there was a “key flaw” in regards to the “professionalism and discipline” of the instructors and noted that the text messages “exposed the CI-HUMINT [counterintelligence-human intelligence] community to significant risk.” The investigator also said the subjects and witnesses of the investigation “deleted” the group chat in question when they learned of the allegations against them.

Yet no disciplinary action was recommended against any of the instructors involved.

 
Didn't name the people who wrote the shitty text.


Shitty.
There are many names named in the captured screenshots, which are in the story:

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The thing that gets me about this is the audacity.

I have a couple group chats with close, long-time friends and we rarely, RARELY get even close to that level of offensiveness -- though we do sometimes cross the lines of appropriateness. But that is in a group chat with close friends that I DO NOT work with.

I can't imagine writing stuff like that shown above in any chat with any coworkers, no matter how much I liked and trusted them. That's just insane to me.
 
The thing that gets me about this is the audacity.

I have a couple group chats with close, long-time friends and we rarely, RARELY get even close to that level of offensiveness -- though we do sometimes cross the lines of appropriateness. But that is in a group chat with close friends that I DO NOT work with.

I can't imagine writing stuff like that shown above in any chat with any coworkers, no matter how much I liked and trusted them. That's just insane to me.

I think that's the crux of it, blurred lines between what is "friend chat" and what is "work chat." I haven't been close friends with coworkers since I was 20 (and married one).

I'm not a big fan of peoples' personal chats being used against them in any way, as without context its not a good measure of someone, and it's a bar almost nobody can clear - that they've never said anything in any context to any person, no matter how privately, that some other theoretical person might be offended by had they heard it.

I can see how that can get complicated for people whose co workers are their best friends. But to me, the fact that they're talking about work issues and work people makes it close to a defacto work chat.

If they're talking this way about a bartender where they go after work, it might be unseemly, but I don't know that it's anyone's business to subject private conversations to that kind of purity standard.

But talking about work and particularly students/subordinates...yeah, I think you pretty much have to treat it as if the same conversation was being had over a work email chain or slack channel. I don't know if a reprimand is necessarily in order depending on what kind of rules had been laid out for them previously, but it probably requires retraining an new policies around standards of appropriateness around conversations that might technically be personal, but are effectively professional.
 
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