“Reduce the population.” - Kamala Harris

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

"When we invest in clean energy and electric vehicles and REDUCE POPULATION, more of our children can breathe clean air and drink clean water." - Kamala Harris

Two questions:

Why does she want to reduce the population?

How does she intend for government to achieve this aim?

 

[QChawks]

good

shorter lines for McDonald’s

 

[Bonerfarts]

I agree with her. We need less of yous.

Birth rates is a weird Elon issue that most people don’t agree with.

 

[mthawkeyes]

Anyone with a modicum of wisdom understanding that because our planet has finite resources and humans are using those resources at a rate faster than they are replenished, human population reduction is necessary in the long run.

In societies where women have educational and economic opportunities, access to contraceptives, and good health outcomes for children, the average woman chooses to have fewer than 2.0 children and the population eventually decreases. I think that a world with one or two billion people living good lives is better than a world of 12-15 billion with the majority of people struggling economically or even to just survive.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Anyone with a modicum of wisdom understanding that because our planet has finite resources and humans are using those resources at a rate faster than they are replenished, human population reduction is necessary in the long run.

In societies where women have educational and economic opportunities, access to contraceptives, and good health outcomes for children, the average woman chooses to have fewer than 2.0 children and the population eventually decreases. I think that a world with one or two billion people living good lives is better than a world of 12-15 billion with the majority of people struggling economically or even to just survive.

The birth rate in Africa is the only thing standing between the world and a slowly declining population. US population would be falling were it not for...wait for it...immigrants.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Anyone with a modicum of wisdom understanding that because our planet has finite resources and humans are using those resources at a rate faster than they are replenished, human population reduction is necessary in the long run.

ie. “Trust me bro”

 

[mthawkeyes]

ie. “Trust me bro”

What in my post was incorrect?

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

The American left: Reduce the population.

The American left: Let everyone come to America.

 

[hydro2.0]

Wonder if she meant “pollution”

 

[FAUlty Gator]

Sounds like she read the teleprompter wrong.

 

[mthawkeyes]

The American left: Reduce the population.

The American left: Let everyone come to America.

The issue here is that you fail to understand the basic mathematical principle of conservation, which states that moving objects (or people) around doesn't change the total number of objects (or people). If this description is too complicated, find a kindergartener and ask them to explain it to you.

 

[MitchLL]

Harris is correct.
The world has finite natural resources and the current trajectory with climate issues is concerning.

I guess I don't have any problem with what she said, but I can see how political adversaries would try and spin her words.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Anyone with a modicum of wisdom understanding that

What in my post was incorrect?

Saying something is obviously true is not sound logic.

What would you think if I said “anyone with a modicum of wisdom understanding knows the earth is flat.” ?

Would that be persuasive to you?

 

[RicoSuave102954]

Next thing you know she will advance the idea of her Ultimate Solution.

God forbid us all if she gets elected.

 

[seminole97]

Saying something is obviously true is not sound logic.

What would you think if I said “anyone with a modicum of wisdom understanding knows the earth is flat.” ?

Would that be persuasive to you?

Overcrowding a finite space isn’t a flat earth argument.

I don’t want to live stacked up like people in Hong Kong or New York.

A walk in the 800 acre park behind my house is a truly different experience than a walk in Central Park’s 800 acres.

Are you going to tell me not to believe my lying eyes?

Would that be persuasive to you?

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

The issue here is that you fail to understand the basic mathematical principle of conservation, which states that moving objects (or people) around doesn't change the total number of objects (or people). If this description is too complicated, find a kindergartener and ask them to explain it to you.

Tell that to the mayors of NYC, Denver and Chicago. That'll make em feel so much better.

 

[Flie]

"When we invest in clean energy and electric vehicles and REDUCE POPULATION, more of our children can breathe clean air and drink clean water." - Kamala Harris

Two questions:

Why does she want to reduce the population?

How does she intend for government to achieve this aim?

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Is it phase 3 of the new world order where we cull off the republicans or is that phase 4? I always forget.

 

[MitchLL]

Is it phase 3 of the new world order where we cull off the republicans or is that phase 4? I always forget.

Also known as Darwinism!

 

[Tiny Hands Trump]

I agree with her. We need less of yous.

Birth rates is weird Elon issue that most people don’t agree with.

Elon has taken it upon himself to spread his mental illness around as much as possible.

 

[Bonerfarts]

The American left: Reduce the population.

The American left: Let everyone come to America.

This is the crux of the issue. I’m all for more people, I just don’t want to pay hundreds of thousands for more of my own kids (2 is enough).

Republicans want more people just not more BROWN people apparently. If you want more people why are you against immigrants?

 

[HawkeyeShawn]

Harris is correct.
The world has finite natural resources and the current trajectory with climate issues is concerning.

I guess I don't have any problem with what she said, but I can see how political adversaries would try and spin her words.

I’d be more curious as to whether she misspoke off the teleprompter or if this is truly a long term stance of hers. I’m actually in favor of reducing the population base on our current trajectory, as you said.

It’s been a few years since we’ve had a thread on population growth or lack thereof, but when we did, I was in favor of reducing. Those on the left were adamantly against it. If this is Kamala’s true stance, I wonder what changed.

 

[mthawkeyes]

Tell that to the mayors of NYC, Denver and Chicago. That'll make em feel so much better.

Immigration could be far better regulated. With the House being controlled by the GOP, maybe the Democrats should try to negotiate to produce bipartisan legislation to address the issue. Wait, that already happened.

 

[THE_DEVIL]

I’d be more curious as to whether she misspoke off the teleprompter or if this is truly a long term stance of hers. I’m actually in favor of reducing the population base on our current trajectory, as you said.

It’s been a few years since we’ve had a thread on population growth or lack thereof, but when we did, I was in favor of reducing. Those on the left were adamantly against it. If this is Kamala’s true stance, I wonder what changed.

Looks like Russia is doing its part at pop. reduction

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Wonder if she meant “pollution”

Sounds like she read the teleprompter wrong.

I think this is what happened.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

This is the crux of the issue. I’m all for more people, I just don’t want to pay hundreds of thousands for more of my own kids (2 is enough).

Republicans want more people just not more BROWN people apparently. If you want more people why are you against immigrants?

Never said I wanted more people.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Immigration could be far better regulated. With the House being controlled by the GOP, maybe the Democrats should try to negotiate to produce bipartisan legislation to address the issue. Wait, that already happened.

You're not a serious person.

 

[mthawkeyes]

Saying something is obviously true is not sound logic.

What would you think if I said “anyone with a modicum of wisdom understanding knows the earth is flat.” ?

Would that be persuasive to you?

The Earth is not flat, but carrying capacity is obviously a real thing, Elon's concerns notwithstanding.
Carrying Capacity

 

[fsu1jreed]

It's like MAGA is proud of being stupid

 

[mthawkeyes]

You're not a serious person.

You may be right, but I'm more serious than a "Christian" who supports Donald Trump (the antithesis of Christian values).

I (One) Corinthians 13:4-7
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

 

[IIowaFarmBoy]

Wonder if she meant “pollution”

No.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

You may be right, but I'm more serious than a "Christian" who supports Donald Trump (the antithesis of Christian values).

I (One) Corinthians 13:4-7
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

I'm not here to elect a Sunday school teacher.

 

[fsu1jreed]

I'm not here to elect a Sunday school teacher.

Holy shit.... CAN'T. MAKE. THIS. SHIT. UP.

 

[Bonerfarts]

Never said I wanted more people.

Your boy Phenom did. He makes you look bad.

 

[BioHawk]

There is no way she misspoke a word and said population when she meant to say pollution. I mean, she was talking about green energy so obviously population was what she meant.

Man, you all are seriously f**ked if this and a weak ass attempt at swiftboating is all you have to go with.

 

[mthawkeyes]

I'm not here to elect a Sunday school teacher.

Clearly. That's why I'm with Gandhi.

 

[seminole97]

Immigration could be far better regulated enforced. With the House being controlled by the GOP, maybe the Democrats should try to negotiate to produce bipartisan enforce existing legislation to address the issue. Wait, that already only happened when Democrats realized this shit could cost them the election.

FTFY

 

[seminole97]

FTFY

@fsu1jreed should look at what NATO ally Finland did when the Russians decided to send them a few muslim asylum seekers.

Closed the border crossing, built fences, and made it clear, in no f'n way were they going to become a refugee dumping ground.

 

[mthawkeyes]

FTFY

I also agree with you for the most part. If the employers of illegal workers were to get large fines and prison time, demand would dry up. The GOP approach is akin to arresting the junkies while ignoring the dealers. But if employers had to pay a 50% increase (or more) for workers to perform back-breaking work, prices (especially food prices) would be significantly effected. That's why I think new legislation is the wiser path because if done well, it could mitigate the problems while avoiding the major economic shocks.

 

[BubsFinn]

Wonder if she meant “pollution”

I'm sure she meant to say pollution and people are taking this way too far. But had this been Trump, the media would say he's calling for genocide.

 

[TheCainer]

I think this is what happened.

It was either that or she was misquoted by, I don't know, someone with an agenda?

Those people are everywhere these days.