So would Texas, Okla, insert any Big 12 team.
If B1G West & Big12 merged the standings would look like this order:
Iowa
Wis
NW
Pur
All the Big 12 teams in whatever order those sh*tty schools rank
Minn
Ill
Nebber
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If B1G West & Big12 merged the standings would look like this order:
Iowa
Wis
NW
Pur
All the Big 12 teams in whatever order those sh*tty schools rank
Minn
Ill
Nebber
polls are based on nothing but imagination.
let's face it... nobody is watching every game.
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I've got mine own unbiased poll:
#4 Michigan
#10 Northwestern
#12 Ohio State
#14 Iowa
#23 Wisconsin
#24 Penn State
#28 Purdue
#34 Maryland
#40 Michigan State
#46 Indiana
#55 Illinois
#58 Nebraska
#60 Minnesota
#65 Rutgers
#36 Iowa State
1- Alabama
2- Clemson
3- Texas
4- Michigan
5- Washington
6- Florida
7- West Virginia
8- Utah
9- Virginia Tech
10- Northwestern
11- Notre Dame
12- Ohio State
13- LSU
14- Iowa
15- Oklahoma
16- Kentucky
17- Georgia
18- Washington State
19- NC State
20- Texas A&M
21- Texas Tech
22- Virgina
23- Wisconsin
24- Penn State
25- Stanford
let's face it... nobody is watching every game.
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I've got mine own unbiased poll:
#4 Michigan
#10 Northwestern
#12 Ohio State
#14 Iowa
#23 Wisconsin
#24 Penn State
#28 Purdue
#34 Maryland
#40 Michigan State
#46 Indiana
#55 Illinois
#58 Nebraska
#60 Minnesota
#65 Rutgers
#36 Iowa State
1- Alabama
2- Clemson
3- Texas
4- Michigan
5- Washington
6- Florida
7- West Virginia
8- Utah
9- Virginia Tech
10- Northwestern
11- Notre Dame
12- Ohio State
13- LSU
14- Iowa
15- Oklahoma
16- Kentucky
17- Georgia
18- Washington State
19- NC State
20- Texas A&M
21- Texas Tech
22- Virgina
23- Wisconsin
24- Penn State
25- Stanford
Wait another week for the CFP as their rankings override all useless media and coach poll in any and all broadcasts.
Based on what?
Losing to both Akron and Duke at home, while barely beating Rutgers this past weekend?
In the cfp poll we'd(ll) be top 10! Probably 15 and 18 in the AP/Coaches polls
Exactly right. All the Hawks need to worry about is beating the lions. Everything else will fall into place after that.......
I posted a thread about this some time ago. I do agree to some degree that if we win out, we will be where we should be in the polls. BUT, that is only true if the teams already arbitrarily ranked ahead of us lose. Do we jump Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame, or Texas if they and we all win out including our by hypothetical win over Michigan in Indy? It isn't clear is it. What have any of them but program perception over that hypothetical Iowa team?
The system is wrong. Polls should start officially with the CFP committee this coming week. No official poll should exist by AP or USA Today.
I'm not saying the Sagarin ratings are the end all be all, but they illustrate an elimination of the bias that clouds rankings historically.
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/
It's difficult for me to argue with this as a counter to the "just win out" people. I just hope for 12-1 and an appearance in the CFP - no matter how it happens.
The system is wrong. Polls should start officially with the CFP committee this coming week. No official poll should exist by AP or USA Today.
I'm not saying the Sagarin ratings are the end all be all, but they illustrate an elimination of the bias that clouds rankings historically.
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/
It's difficult for me to argue with this as a counter to the "just win out" people. I just hope for 12-1 and an appearance in the CFP - no matter how it happens.
the system is wrong.
automatic bids for Conference Champions would fix this problem.
Just because Iowa 3-1 and Wisconsin 3-1 had a bye week does not make Northwestern 4-1 better than them. Judging off of losses, they are tied for first with two other teams.
Thanks for explaining this more politely than I would have cared to. Also, this is not the schedule/results of a #10 team:
Thu, Aug 30
@
PurdueW31-27
1-0 (1-0)
Sat, Sep 8
vs
DukeL21-7
1-1 (1-0)
Sat, Sep 15
vs
AkronL39-34
1-2 (1-0)
Sat, Sep 29
vs
14 MichiganL20-17
1-3 (1-1)
Sat, Oct 6
@
20 Michigan StateW29-19
2-3 (2-1)
Sat, Oct 13
vs
NebraskaW34-31 OT
3-3 (3-1)
Sat, Oct 20
@
RutgersW18-15
4-3 (4-1)
the poll I shared with you is unbiased.
Northwestern technically is in first
I would prefer an unbiased poll over a poll that is based on imagination....
with the AP and Coaches Poll... thats what you have.... polls based purely on imagination.
I think this issue could easily be solved with Conference Champions getting automatic bids.
Northwestern technically is in first
I would prefer an unbiased poll over a poll that is based on imagination....
with the AP and Coaches Poll... thats what you have.... polls based purely on imagination.
I think this issue could easily be solved with Conference Champions getting automatic bids.
Ya, da B1G bowl record last year was benefited by not having a team in CFP. Ie each bowl game had a higher place B1G team, than if tOSU had a made da playoff.
Why does the Big12 still suck in the bowl seasons when they don’t have a playoff team?Ya, da B1G bowl record last year was benefited by not having a team in CFP. Ie each bowl game had a higher place B1G team, than if tOSU had a made da playoff.
I know why. Do you?
Why does the Big12 still suck in the bowl seasons when they don’t have a playoff team?Ya, da B1G bowl record last year was benefited by not having a team in CFP. Ie each bowl game had a higher place B1G team, than if tOSU had a made da playoff.
I know why. Do you?
Ya, yawn, rocky, b12 was 5-3 vs 3-5 expected. B1G was 7-1 vs 6-2 expected with favorable setup of no team in cfp.
Ya, da B1G bowl record last year was benefited by not having a team in CFP. Ie each bowl game had a higher place B1G team, than if tOSU had a made da playoff.
Give it a rest, man. You're trying too hard.
Ya, yawn, rocky, b12 was 5-3 vs 3-5 expected. B1G was 7-1 vs 6-2 expected with favorable setup of no team in cfp.
Ya, barf. B1G > big 12, so stfu doofus.
Normally I’m a don’t give a shit about rankings guy, but this is fvcking bullshit. We deserve to be ranked higher. Anybody that is actually paying attention knows we are legit.
Damn, I didn’t realize the B1G had that much better of a bowl record than the Weak12!Ya, yawn, rocky, b12 was 5-3 vs 3-5 expected. B1G was 7-1 vs 6-2 expected with favorable setup of no team in cfp.
Thanks for the backup clown!
The system is wrong for only having a four team playoff. Even with a larger playoff pool, conference champions may not be the correct answer either with unbalanced schedules.
Ya, da B1G bowl record last year was benefited by not having a team in CFP. Ie each bowl game had a higher place B1G team, than if tOSU had a made da playoff.
You total dipsh#t! There's no way you're actually that stupid.
Conference bowl picks come after all NY6 games are filled, not just the CFP. The B1G had THREE NY6 teams last year, meaning the bowl with the "B1G #2 selection" actually got #4. On the other hand, the Big 12 had only 1 NY6 participant, so their bowl selections went true to form. Every other P-5 conference had 2 NY6 selections. So, if anything, it was the Big 12 whose "bowl record last year was benefited" by the NY6 selection process.
Tried taking a shot at the B1G, and instead made a fool of yourself. Congrats!
What can you do? We messed up in week 4. Just win, And we will get what we deserve. Had we beat who we should have, we would be ranked much higher...
As for UT stumbling in their opener verse the Turtles, it is the first game of the season... If they played now, it would be significantly different. That noted, I do believe that Texas is overrated.
As for UT stumbling in their opener verse the Turtles, it is the first game of the season... If they played now, it would be significantly different. That noted, I do believe that Texas is overrated.
This is why preseason and rankings afterward matter. If Iowa was perceived to be a top 25 team to start the season (not that we deserved to be), we'd be higher. And they aren't going away. Rankings give the media something to talk about. The NCAA isn't going to give that up.
