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Weird. no shot clock. no 3 point line.



What year did they put the 3 point line in??? the shot clock???
 
3 pt line was 1985 I’m pretty sure. Same year they expanded the tourney. Shot clock wasn’t far behind.
3pt line was first established across the entire NCAA for the whole 1986-1987 season. Before that it had been experimented with.

The 45 second clock was brought in a year or two prior if memory serves me right.
 
Believe it was originally at the top of the key. Then it was later extended as players developed an expertise for that distance.
Here ya go.


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Here ya go.


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IIRC, it was ACC only that used the line inside the top of the key. Had a discussion with L12 a while back about that.

It was allowed as an experiment for a year or two, with conferences deciding whether to implement or not and what distance to use.

It's funny, Iowa HS implement the 3pt line in either 1983 or 84. I know we had it my first year on varsity, which was the 84-85 season.
 
Many conferences utilized/tested a 3 point line in the 80's. Davis's first year was the first NCAA sanctioned line. Shot clock game in around that time too. When Raveling was coach, Bob Knight held the ball in the second half of both games one year knowing how much it would piss of George. Clock was introduced shortly after that.
 
I remember that surface at NC State, like a really hard rubber instead of wood. When I first saw it I was like, WTH is with that floor?

Those floors were popular in the late 70's into the 80"s,... Diving for a ball was like trying to slide on a rubber eraser,... Skinned the hell out of your knees....
 
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I'm dating myself here, but does any of the "not quite old timers yet but getting closer" crowd recall the Michigan State game at the Fieldhouse on Feb. 7 1980? With no shot clock Michigan State immediately went into a four corner stall game after the opening tip.They sat around dribbling the ball out by half court and refused to engage. Lute had our boys just sit back and let it happen until Iowa got a lead and Sparty was then compelled to try to play and catch up.

Final score Iowa 44 Michigan State 39 (I don't recall the halftime score but I think it was something like 22-16 or something similar). Quite the boring game but it was a W.
 
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I'm dating myself here, but does any of the "not quite old timers yet but getting closer" crowd recall the Michigan State game at the Fieldhouse on Feb. 7 1980? With no shot clock Michigan State immediately went into a four corner stall game after the opening tip.They sat around dribbling the ball out by half court and refused to engage. Lute had our boys just sit back and let it happen until Iowa got a lead and Sparty was then compelled to try to play and catch up.

Final score Iowa 44 Michigan State 39 (I don't recall the halftime score but I think it was something like 22-16 or something similar). Quite the boring game but it was a W.
It was 8-6 at halftime.
To be fair, though, it should be pointed out that in 2008 the Hawkeyes beat the Spartans 43-36 (the biggest win of the Lickliter era?)
 
I'm dating myself here, but does any of the "not quite old timers yet but getting closer" crowd recall the Michigan State game at the Fieldhouse on Feb. 7 1980? With no shot clock Michigan State immediately went into a four corner stall game after the opening tip.They sat around dribbling the ball out by half court and refused to engage. Lute had our boys just sit back and let it happen until Iowa got a lead and Sparty was then compelled to try to play and catch up.

Final score Iowa 44 Michigan State 39 (I don't recall the halftime score but I think it was something like 22-16 or something similar). Quite the boring game but it was a W.
I remember that game. Judd Heathcoate, (sp?), was the MSU head coach. After the game all the reporters were questioning his strategy. All he could say was, "We just wanted to try something different". To my knowledge that never used it again.
 
'85-'86 - 45 sec shot clock
'86-'87 - NCAA-wide 19' 9" 3-pt line
'93-'94 - 35 sec shot clock
'08-'09 - 20' 9" 3-pt line
'15-'16 - 30 sec shot clock
 
It was 8-6 at halftime.
To be fair, though, it should be pointed out that in 2008 the Hawkeyes beat the Spartans 43-36 (the biggest win of the Lickliter era?)

Wow-I didn't recall it was that low a score at halftime. That's funny.
 
For the "older" guys.... How was bball without the shot clock? I would think the game was slowed down tremendously
 
The 3 point line was first tested at college level in 1945...for one game. And another time in a 1958 game.

The Southern conference put it in play on 1980

The Big 10 tested it in 82-83
 
I was sold on the shot clock after a game where Iowa was at Indiana. I think it was one of the Raveling years (maybe 1/28/84). It was a great game and back and forth until Indiana got a 6 or 8 point lead with like 14 minutes to go. No big deal, we will come back, right?

Bobby Knight went into the stall and the game was essentially over.
Bravo to Bobby for winning the game, that was his job.
But "Boo" him and the rules of the game for depriving the fans and the players of a great game.
Note: I could be off on the specific facts above, but the jist of it is true.

So, I'm a fan of the shot clock.
 
I'm dating myself here, but does any of the "not quite old timers yet but getting closer" crowd recall the Michigan State game at the Fieldhouse on Feb. 7 1980? With no shot clock Michigan State immediately went into a four corner stall game after the opening tip.They sat around dribbling the ball out by half court and refused to engage. Lute had our boys just sit back and let it happen until Iowa got a lead and Sparty was then compelled to try to play and catch up.

Final score Iowa 44 Michigan State 39 (I don't recall the halftime score but I think it was something like 22-16 or something similar). Quite the boring game but it was a W.
I was at the game. The whole crowd was booing MSU for holding the ball.
 
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I was sold on the shot clock after a game where Iowa was at Indiana. I think it was one of the Raveling years (maybe 1/28/84). It was a great game and back and forth until Indiana got a 6 or 8 point lead with like 14 minutes to go. No big deal, we will come back, right?

Bobby Knight went into the stall and the game was essentially over.
Bravo to Bobby for winning the game, that was his job.
But "Boo" him and the rules of the game for depriving the fans and the players of a great game.
Note: I could be off on the specific facts above, but the jist of it is true.

So, I'm a fan of the shot clock.

The shot clock has made a huge contribution to the growth of the sport. It was not at all uncommon in the pre-shot clock days for coaches to go to four corners with a 6 or 8 point lead and under 5 minutes remaining. The other team would be forced to foul. The games took forever, and you spent a lot of that time at the end watching a free throw shooting contest.
 
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