2 PT Conversion Attempt

[drew_hawk]

 

[2D_]

Trying that with the redzone offense we've had today was a foolish decision. Can't leave a single point on the field.

 

[LarryMullenJr.]

Not to mention the guy throwing the ball had a stat line and performance that made Petras look like Marino.

 

[uihawk82]

Trying that with the redzone offense we've had today was a foolish decision. Can't leave a single point on the field.

^^^ This, and it was stupid anyway since it was so early in the game. I am sure Kirk felt we would score two more times at least, hahahah

 

[jberesford]

I mentioned this in the game thread, but does anyone know the conversion percentage of Iowa attempts year by year? I know at one point a couple years ago they were 0 for their last 11. Failed on one last week. And those missed red zone opportunities in the game basically made it 0-5 this game. But that's the one ballsy thing Kirk will do, and way earlier than even riskier coaches will feel a need to. And his percentages are abysmal.

 

[TRHawkeye145]

I agree - but I doubt OT changes anything. The 2nd half was just a complete shit show offensively. The red zone offense was trash

 

[herkyhawk00]

Going for one that early puts Iowa up by 13, which is a td and 2 FG’s. I think that is a comfortable lead with our defense. Going for two and missing it puts us up by 12, which isn’t nearly as comfortable.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

Dumb. Chase those points the rest of the game.

 

[BirdistheWord]

Going for one that early puts Iowa up by 13, which is a td and 2 FG’s. I think that is a comfortable lead with our defense. Going for two and missing it puts us up by 12, which isn’t nearly as comfortable.

You’re hired!

 

[BirdistheWord]

We were money from inside the 5, why not 🤡

 

[mro1978]

never go for 2 until the 4th quarter, cost Iowa a shot at OT

 

[TheRealHerky]

Even if this went to OT, do you think Iowa had a chance to win? Unless the defense could score all thr points were already on the board for I WA

 

[MitchLL]

Iowa couldn't score in the first half inside the 5 yard line.

Anyone really think they were gonna make that 2 pt play?

I guess Ferentz did!

Effing stupid given the situation.

 

[desihawk]

one of the stupidest choices but there are many coaches who have done this before and regretted it. it's so unlike kirk that i wonder if someone else (lester?) made the call

 

[jberesford]

I mentioned this in the game thread, but does anyone know the conversion percentage of Iowa attempts year by year? I know at one point a couple years ago they were 0 for their last 11. Failed on one last week. And those missed red zone opportunities in the game basically made it 0-5 this game. But that's the one ballsy thing Kirk will do, and way earlier than even riskier coaches will feel a need to. And his percentages are abysmal.

Bumping my own post here, but found this gem. This is an article from five years ago after failing to convert one in that years Iowa State game. 28 games and over two seasons since getting one.

Iowa's 2-point conversion drought is almost unbelievable

This stat is crazy.

saturdaytradition.com

 

[HawkBall23]

^^^ This, and it was stupid anyway since it was so early in the game. I am sure Kirk felt we would score two more times at least, hahahah

Are we talking about the same Captain Conservative?!

No. That's why he was going for two there, so if it was converted, then he could officially put away any effort whatsoever on the offensive side of the ball for the rest of the game.

 

[mro1978]

Even if this went to OT, do you think Iowa had a chance to win? Unless the defense could score all thr points were already on the board for I WA

maybe they get a turnover and a field goal

 

[acuhawk]

never go for 2 until the 4th quarter, cost Iowa a shot at OT

I would even say well into the 4th quarter rather than the beginning. I'm not even surprised as yesterday was as expected for me.

 

[rfgiowa]

But, but, but..."the book" says to go for two. If captain kirk and lester ever say that crap, iowa fans should laugh at them. Stupid decisions deserve stupid prizes.

 

[drew_hawk]

But, but, but..."the book" says to go for two. If captain kirk and lester ever say that crap, iowa fans should laugh at them. Stupid decisions deserve stupid prizes.

And this is why it was a terrible coaching decision; the captain blindly goes by "the book" while ignoring the potential impact a failed two-point attempt would have on momentum shift/ enhancing the opponent's confidence. Which is exactly how it played out. You kick the extra point there and do not provide the opponent that opportunity. Yet another example of Kirk playing checkers while others are playing chess.

But that's football I guess.

 

[Beattheohiostate]

Trying that with the redzone offense we've had today was a foolish decision. Can't leave a single point on the field.

You are correct. KF takes pride in his NFL philosophy. In the NFL, you don't chase points in the third quarter. You kick the damn PAT. Unless you have a special play that you're 99% SURE will work. Iowa doesn't have that play. Not . . . even . . . close.

 

[drew_hawk]

Just heard from Bill Cowher in postgame on going for it based on analytics (i.e. "the book"):

"You see the numbers when you achieve it; but the effects when you don't make it, when you fail? There's no measuring of momentum, there's no measuring of what the alignment is that I have in this situation - where the game is flowing, what are my options in this game? There's so many intangibles that analytics do not take into account, you have to have a feel for what's going on and the game flow".

 

[hawkcub]

Going for 2 then wasn't the problem. It was going into turtle mode after that was the problem. If you go for 2 keep the foot on the gas pedal. If you go into turtle mode take the points.

 

[HawkPT]

I know what the analytics say, but those analytics are based upon the aggregate of all teams. They do not apply to the historically (last two years anyway) worst D1 FBS offensive team. They still had plenty of opportunities to win, but this decision is one of the reasons Iowa lost. I would much rather have gone into overtime than lose on a FG in regulation.