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2024 Four-Star and Top-60 Recruit Has Iowa in Top 5

Well we'll find out soon one way or another. Really like Donnie's game. Would look great in the black and gold.

Interesting top 5. The presence of Georgia Tech makes me think Iowa might have a shot. Tech isn't near the program as the schools he's already turned down. They have probably gotten Freeman's interest by selling a major role to him. Similarly, we know Fran is selling a role with a lot of offensive freedom to utilize his skills.

FutureCast to Syracuse interesting with Boeheim gone.

Bama and Texas are obviously attractive. But are they making Freeman feel as wanted as the other schools?

Have to like that Donnie recognizes the special vibe in Hawkeye nation. Good luck to him
 
O Freeman, Dembele, Koch, and D Freeman would sure give Iowa some really good front court options and depth.
 
Freeman will not be a Hawk, I have said it for quite awhile now. He knows it and pretty sure Fran has his suspicions he won't.

Iowa makes a lot of players final 5 because Fran recruits kids early and builds a relationship. In the end - NIL, tradition or location shoots us down.
I’m curious, though, why Kirk seems to have some success in bringing in prized recruits but Fran not so much. I’m not saying Kirk is getting a ton of 4 and 5 star kids, but he gets a few somewhat regularly. Also, Kirk absolutely killed it in the portal this year. Killed it.

I would also add Iowa State doesn’t seem to have problems getting top 100 level talent, now spanning three coaches. Is Ames, Iowa that much more attractive than Iowa City? Is their program history and tradition that much more prestigious? I don’t think so.

The question is, why does Fran struggle so much with sealing the deal? I don’t know and am honestly asking. There’s no question Fran has done a fabulous job of developing the talent he does get (outside of pg), but Fran is not winning too many recruiting battles for out-of-state talent. About the only real recruiting win I can think of off the top of my head is Tyler Cook. I know Luka Garza was also a 4 star, but I don’t recall him having that impressive of an offer list.

It’s just surprising and kind of alarming, but it is what it is I guess.
 
I’m curious, though, why Kirk seems to have some success in bringing in prized recruits but Fran not so much. I’m not saying Kirk is getting a ton of 4 and 5 star kids, but he gets a few somewhat regularly. Also, Kirk absolutely killed it in the portal this year. Killed it.

I would also add Iowa State doesn’t seem to have problems getting top 100 level talent, now spanning three coaches. Is Ames, Iowa that much more attractive than Iowa City? Is their program history and tradition that much more prestigious? I don’t think so.

The question is, why does Fran struggle so much with sealing the deal? I don’t know and am honestly asking. There’s no question Fran has done a fabulous job of developing the talent he does get (outside of pg), but Fran is not winning too many recruiting battles for out-of-state talent. About the only real recruiting win I can think of off the top of my head is Tyler Cook. I know Luka Garza was also a 4 star, but I don’t recall him having that impressive of an offer list.

It’s just surprising and kind of alarming, but it is what it is I guess.
I have a few thoughts on this. Fran has made it clear he has an issue paying more NIL $ to freshmen or transfers than his players. Some schools are shooting for the moon. Only takes a few hits to change a team's success.

Lack of tourney success has to be a huge issue. Iowa basketball does not have a strong basketball brand recognition. I was hoping Luka's NP award and us putting players in the league would elevate recruiting. It hasn't. I do feel good about this year's class. Freeman is way underrated. Pryce can really stroke it.
 
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Fran has made it clear he has an issue paying more NIL $ to freshmen or transfers than his players.
I don’t believe that’s a winning strategy. I understand why Fran and other coaches don’t like NIL, but you have to adapt to the times. It puts Iowa at a competitive disadvantage in the Big Ten. Not good.
 
I’m curious, though, why Kirk seems to have some success in bringing in prized recruits but Fran not so much. I’m not saying Kirk is getting a ton of 4 and 5 star kids, but he gets a few somewhat regularly. Also, Kirk absolutely killed it in the portal this year. Killed it.

I would also add Iowa State doesn’t seem to have problems getting top 100 level talent, now spanning three coaches. Is Ames, Iowa that much more attractive than Iowa City? Is their program history and tradition that much more prestigious? I don’t think so.

The question is, why does Fran struggle so much with sealing the deal? I don’t know and am honestly asking. There’s no question Fran has done a fabulous job of developing the talent he does get (outside of pg), but Fran is not winning too many recruiting battles for out-of-state talent. About the only real recruiting win I can think of off the top of my head is Tyler Cook. I know Luka Garza was also a 4 star, but I don’t recall him having that impressive of an offer list.

It’s just surprising and kind of alarming, but it is what it is I guess.
Valid question, but I’d point out that Garza had a terrific offer list, something like 30 majors. A better offer list than his star rating would imply. But I agree with your premise. My guess is that he has not embraced the use of NIL money as much as KF, but I really don’t know.
 
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I’m curious, though, why Kirk seems to have some success in bringing in prized recruits but Fran not so much. I’m not saying Kirk is getting a ton of 4 and 5 star kids, but he gets a few somewhat regularly. Also, Kirk absolutely killed it in the portal this year. Killed it.

I would also add Iowa State doesn’t seem to have problems getting top 100 level talent, now spanning three coaches. Is Ames, Iowa that much more attractive than Iowa City? Is their program history and tradition that much more prestigious? I don’t think so.

The question is, why does Fran struggle so much with sealing the deal? I don’t know and am honestly asking. There’s no question Fran has done a fabulous job of developing the talent he does get (outside of pg), but Fran is not winning too many recruiting battles for out-of-state talent. About the only real recruiting win I can think of off the top of my head is Tyler Cook. I know Luka Garza was also a 4 star, but I don’t recall him having that impressive of an offer list.

It’s just surprising and kind of alarming, but it is what it is I guess.
Depends on what recruiting site you look at I guess, but Pryce, Dembele, and Freeman are all 4 stars on one of the 4 major recruiting sites (Espn, Rivals, 247 and ON3). Cooper Koch is also a high 4 star and has been tearing it up this spring on the AAU circuit--and yeah he's a legacy kid, but those aren't always layups to recruit--just ask Minnesota or Penn State who recently had 4-star legacy kids go elsewhere. If you look at Bowen and Dix's offer lists, it's not like Iowa wasn't competing against good schools for either of those guys. Compare that to Kirk this year--the '23 high school class had 2 total 4-star guys and one of those grew up in Iowa City.
As for the portal, something to keep in mind that apart from QB, guys in football generally make less money in NIL than basketball. So the cost to get the foot into the door to recruit someone is generally higher. The other major difference between football and basketball is the power gap is much wider between the SEC/Big Ten and everyone else in football. In basketball, the Big Ten is competing with not only 5 other power conferences for recruits (adding the Big East) but also has schools like Gonzaga, San Diego St, Memphis, etc that are good basketball schools outside of a power conference structure.
And if you really want to know what Iowa State has that Iowa doesn't for basketball, look whose suite TJ Otz was in at the Kentucky Derby. It's not some big secret that he has a sugar daddy bankrolling his basketball team.
 
Freeman will not be a Hawk, I have said it for quite awhile now. He knows it and pretty sure Fran has his suspicions he won't.

Iowa makes a lot of players final 5 because Fran recruits kids early and builds a relationship. In the end - NIL, tradition or location shoots us down.


The predictions from the recruiting experts did not start coming in until April 24, 2023, so if you were predicting anything prior to April 24 (exactly 2 weeks ago) you were simply guessing; anyone could have guessed that a 4 star and #54 ranked player in the nation was not coming to Iowa.

Here is the prediction timeline that he was going to Syracuse, from the recruiting experts:

April 24, 2023: Andrew Barth (Staff writer/analyst for the Syracuse Rivals site) & Richard Schnyderite (Publisher of the Rutgers Rivals site) put in their predictions for Syracuse

Yesterday, May 7, Jackson Collier (Rivals BB Recruiting Analyst) put in his prediction for Syracuse


Regarding your getting shot down comment: You realize that Donnie's going to shoot down 3 other schools and not just Iowa, right? You realize that Cooper Koch shot down Wisconsin & Purdue before picking Iowa, right? Do you remember all of the schools Owen Freeman shot down before picking Iowa? It's not like every prospect who Iowa or any school offers is automatically going to commit. Good players have options; EVERY schools wins some recruiting battles and loses some.

My gosh, I hope you are still now dwelling on all the times Iowa got "shot down" in 2022 and 2023.

Class...Offers...Commits
2022......31..............2
2023......34.............4
2024......31..............1 (so far)
 
Valid question, but I’d point out that Garza had a terrific offer list, something like 30 majors. A better offer list than his star rating would imply. But I agree with your premise. My guess is that he has not embraced the use of NIL money as much as KF, but I really don’t know.
I listened to Brad Heinrichs on Hawkeye of the Storm this weekend (CEO of the Swarm) and Brad said that Fran has actually been the one who has embraced the NIL Collective the most and has been actively soliciting Brad to do events for the basketball team to fundraise.
 
Depends on what recruiting site you look at I guess, but Pryce, Dembele, and Freeman are all 4 stars on one of the 4 major recruiting sites (Espn, Rivals, 247 and ON3). Cooper Koch is also a high 4 star and has been tearing it up this spring on the AAU circuit--and yeah he's a legacy kid, but those aren't always layups to recruit--just ask Minnesota or Penn State who recently had 4-star legacy kids go elsewhere. If you look at Bowen and Dix's offer lists, it's not like Iowa wasn't competing against good schools for either of those guys. Compare that to Kirk this year--the '23 high school class had 2 total 4-star guys and one of those grew up in Iowa City.
As for the portal, something to keep in mind that apart from QB, guys in football generally make less money in NIL than basketball. So the cost to get the foot into the door to recruit someone is generally higher. The other major difference between football and basketball is the power gap is much wider between the SEC/Big Ten and everyone else in football. In basketball, the Big Ten is competing with not only 5 other power conferences for recruits (adding the Big East) but also has schools like Gonzaga, San Diego St, Memphis, etc that are good basketball schools outside of a power conference structure.
And if you really want to know what Iowa State has that Iowa doesn't for basketball, look whose suite TJ Otz was in at the Kentucky Derby. It's not some big secret that he has a sugar daddy bankrolling his basketball team.


And if you don't know who this man is, just take a quick google of Dennis Albaugh. Forbes estimates his net worth to be $1.4 Billion and he's a big ISU basketball booster--obviously big enough to invite the ISU basketball coach to sit next to him while he has multiple horses race in the Kentucky Derby this weekend.
 
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And if you don't know who this man is, just take a quick google of Dennis Albaugh. Forbes estimates his net worth to be $1.4 Billion and he's a big ISU basketball booster--obviously big enough to invite the ISU basketball coach to sit next to him while he has multiple horses race in the Kentucky Derby this weekend.
Imagine if Roy J Carver was alive in the era of NIL. According to his NY Times obituary his net worth in 1973 was estimated at $200-300MM, which is equivalent to $1.4-2.1BB today.
 


And if you don't know who this man is, just take a quick google of Dennis Albaugh. Forbes estimates his net worth to be $1.4 Billion and he's a big ISU basketball booster--obviously big enough to invite the ISU basketball coach to sit next to him while he has multiple horses race in the Kentucky Derby this weekend.


Money talks and pay to play is alive and well.

It makes you wonder what Iowa State basketball prospects are getting offered. What follows is just the high school kids they are bringing in (or will bring in).


Their 2023 Class:



Their 2024 Class:

 
We need to hit up Ashton Kutcher ($220M) and Zach Johnson ($25M) - both Hawk fans - to help combat at least some of that Albaugh $1.5B net worth.

Edit: Add in Tom Arnold, another Hawk fan, at an $20M estimated net worth.

I should add it’s very possible some or all three have already contributed. If so, step it up more gentlemen!

https://moneyinc.com/richest-people-in-iowa/
 
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And if you don't know who this man is, just take a quick google of Dennis Albaugh. Forbes estimates his net worth to be $1.4 Billion and he's a big ISU basketball booster--obviously big enough to invite the ISU basketball coach to sit next to him while he has multiple horses race in the Kentucky Derby this weekend.
10 years ago, a picture like that would have never seen the light of day. Now, pictures of a greasy head coach hanging out with a billionaire is recruiting tool. "See, that's me with a rich old white guy that will throw money at you!"

Kind of a disturbing notion. But, unfortunately, it's the way things are and they aren't going back.
 
Fran did get Cook who had offers from these
Alabama
Arkansas
Florida
Illinois
IIIinois State
ISU
Kansas
Kansas State
Marquette
Memphis
Miami, Florida
Michigan
Missouri
Pittsburg
Purdue
and other notable teams as he was rated #38 by ESPN but only #74 by Rivals.

Rivals has always sc### Iowa receuits over in BB and FB, as of today Iowa has 11 commits 1 4* and 10 3*'s but as I pointed out in another thread Iowa had 6 4* recruits out of 9 commits by all the sites
 
We need to hit up Ashton Kutcher ($220M) and Zach Johnson ($25M) - both Hawk fans - to help combat at least some of that Albaugh $1.5B net worth.

Edit: Add in Tom Arnold, another Hawk fan, at an $20M estimated net worth.

I should add it’s very possible some or all three have already contributed. If so, step it up more gentlemen!

https://moneyinc.com/richest-people-in-iowa/

I think you guys are massively overstating the Albaugh situation. He isn't a fan of ISU, some of his family members are, but if you think ISU has unlimited cash to throw around you're wrong. If ISU had serious NIL money we would have gone after a big in the portal. The team doesn't have the kind of money available to pay a high end big.
 
I think you guys are massively overstating the Albaugh situation. He isn't a fan of ISU, some of his family members are, but if you think ISU has unlimited cash to throw around you're wrong. If ISU had serious NIL money we would have gone after a big in the portal. The team doesn't have the kind of money available to pay a high end big.
They had the money for a high end big last year
 
If you're quoting UNLVRebelGrl, who is one of the most unhinged people on the internet (which is truly saying something) you're in a bad place.

If you have followed / monitored UNLVRebelGirl on Twitter for ENOUGHT TIME where you think you know so much about her, you're in a REALLY bad place.

And speaking of unhinged fans and fans in a BAD/THE WRONG PLACE, I always find it funny how Clown fans like yourself monitor this HAWKEYE site and always have to chime in with a bunch of nonsense.

I know you're the little stepbrother, but still.
 
Well we'll find out soon one way or another. Really like Donnie's game. Would look great in the black and gold.

Interesting top 5. The presence of Georgia Tech makes me think Iowa might have a shot. Tech isn't near the program as the schools he's already turned down. They have probably gotten Freeman's interest by selling a major role to him. Similarly, we know Fran is selling a role with a lot of offensive freedom to utilize his skills.

FutureCast to Syracuse interesting with Boeheim gone.

Bama and Texas are obviously attractive. But are they making Freeman feel as wanted as the other schools?

Have to like that Donnie recognizes the special vibe in Hawkeye nation. Good luck to him
Syracuse with the $$$$?
 
Syracuse with the $$$$?
Autry, the new coach at Syracuse, used to be a coach for Freeman's AAU team Takeover. I'd expect Syracuse to get a lot of Takeover kids the next couple of years which is a bummer since Iowa seems to be trying to get their foot in the door with them (Ngongba, Guerengomba, Sundra also play for them and have Iowa offers).
 
Everybody's going to have to buy their teams for now on. It's too bad I don't know who came up with this idea in the first place. It's going to wreck college basketball and football.
 
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If you have followed / monitored UNLVRebelGirl on Twitter for ENOUGHT TIME where you think you know so much about her, you're in a REALLY bad place.

And speaking of unhinged fans and fans in a BAD/THE WRONG PLACE, I always find it funny how Clown fans like yourself monitor this HAWKEYE site and always have to chime in with a bunch of nonsense.

I know you're the little stepbrother, but still.

I find her absolutely crazy takes on TJ to be funny. Thought I’d check in after we signed a transfer from UNLV this offseason and she didn’t disappoint.
 
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money is the only Syracuse had a chance. their coach retired multiple players left via the portal. these kids are now going to the highest bidder and Iowa just mot have the kind of money to compete, so posters better get used to losing out to the highest bidder, until Fran or any future coach has more money to use in a bidding war.
 
money is the only Syracuse had a chance. their coach retired multiple players left via the portal. these kids are now going to the highest bidder and Iowa just mot have the kind of money to compete, so posters better get used to losing out to the highest bidder, until Fran or any future coach has more money to use in a bidding war.

This is absurd. His AAU coach is on staff there, so he’s got relationships with that staff that he simply doesn’t have with the Iowa staff.

How many east coast top 100 kids did Fran sign before NIL? Correct me if I’m wrong but the answer I think is zero. Easy to blame NIL but makes no sense in this case.
 
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This is absurd. His AAU coach is on staff there, so he’s got relationships with that staff that he simply doesn’t have with the Iowa staff.

How many east coast top 100 kids did Fran sign before NIL? Correct me if I’m wrong but the answer I think is zero. Easy to blame NIL but makes no sense in this case.
Garza was a top 100 4* by ESPN. I don't care if they hired God himself. Syracuse has lost way to much to be attractive to anybody especially a top 100 4*. then you have to figure in the rest of his top 5.

money played a huge roll in his decision..
 
Garza was a top 100 4* by ESPN. I don't care if they hired God himself. Syracuse has lost way to much to be attractive to anybody especially a top 100 4*. then you have to figure in the rest of his top 5.

money played a huge roll in his decision..

By that token Iowa lost too much to be attractive to a top talent. Get real here man. One time in 12 years and now it’s all about the money.
 
Autry, the new coach at Syracuse, used to be a coach for Freeman's AAU team Takeover. I'd expect Syracuse to get a lot of Takeover kids the next couple of years which is a bummer since Iowa seems to be trying to get their foot in the door with them (Ngongba, Guerengomba, Sundra also play for them and have Iowa offers).

Syracuse with the $$$$?

His AAU coach is on staff there, so he’s got relationships with that staff that he simply doesn’t have with the Iowa staff.


True, he has a relationship with the Syracuse staff but based on the info that follows, Donnie was heading to Alabama prior to March 22 because of his EVEN BETTER relationship with Alabama Asst Coach Bryan Hodgson. On March 22 Arkansas State hired Bryan Hodgson, which changed everything..

So, his 2nd and final choice was Syracuse, so I guess you could say Iowa finished 3rd, 4th or 5th in this recruitment.



 
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True, he has a relationship with the Syracuse staff but based on the info that follows, Donnie was heading to Alabama prior to March 22 because of his EVEN BETTER relationship with Alabama Asst Coach Bryan Hodgson. On March 22 Arkansas State hired Bryan Hodgson, which changed everything..

So, his 2nd and final choice was Syracuse, so I guess you could say Iowa finished 3rd, 4th or 5th in this recruitment.



That's to bad. Would have loved him in the black and gold.
 
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