3 point line moving back ?? What?! Where have I been?
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Just heard it on ESPN radio, moving back 17” to the international distance. Seems like a big move.
This is gonna hurt the tournament right? Where smaller schools/shorter teams rely on shooting threes in upset bids.
Other "old guys" may remember the 1982-83 season when the NCAA gave conferences permission to experiment with the three-point shot, and there were some wildly divergent distances. The B1G used 21 feet - shorter than the new NCAA standard but longer than the previous two. The ACC used a ridiculously short 17' 9", which was inside the top of the key. The Hawks didn't attempt very many 3's that year but were successful. It's still the team record for season percentage at 41.9. Sports Illustrated page showing distances.
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Exactly, this type of change I think will benefit the Iowa team more than most teams. If you have a stable of effective long range shooters along with good post players that need some room to operate underneath, this helps to space the floor and relieve congestion in the scoring lane. Most teams will see a drop off in their 3 point % however.
Read an article basically about Harden and Curry before playoffs begin. 1 point/2 shot was essentially the statistical average, amazingly the same for 3s, so it really averaged perfectly. Now it’s leaning heavily towards threes. I think that lends support to needing a change.
I like the NBA idea of allowing home courts to set the line, like outfield walls.
I don’t think that’s work in college, too many teams, and no post-season home court.
I like the NBA idea of allowing home courts to set the line, like outfield walls.
I don’t think that’s work in college, too many teams, and no post-season home court.
Not going to help Garza or Connor make 3pt shots.
With that, there'd have to be a reduction in Timeouts
We shouldn’t need a lot of attempts from either of them. With Joe, CJF, Nunge and hopefully JBo we’ll be fine.
I don't think it'll make a huge difference, but I would think it would help the small schools with shooters if anything.
I think it hurts us on defense.
Spreading us out more allowing even more space to drive by our perimeter defenders.
Zone will get very Swiss cheese as we chase out to the new line.
Spreading us out more allowing even more space to drive by our perimeter defenders.
Zone will get very Swiss cheese as we chase out to the new line.
I think you may be right here. Still chewing on how this will effect Iowa... Having an intimidating interior defensive presence would definitely be a benefit. Can Nunge fill that gap??? Heard on Tom's podcast that Jack was swatting them away.
I don't think it will affect the good shooters much. It will affect the marginal shooters that use to be able to knock down a few threes with the shorter distance.
I think fouling/free throws need to be addressed. With the three pointer, there is to much of a benefit to fouling at the end of the game.. The fouling team could potentially give up 0, 1, 2 points by fouling but could potentially get 3 points on their next possession. Fouls are to penalize the the team fouling
I like the idea of going to 4 quarters and taking away 1 or 2 timeouts, 4th foul in quarter is 2 freethrows and I would add 7th foul of quarter 2 freethrows and ball to eliminate all the late game fouling.
Don't see that happening because TV likes the drama and additional commercials they can throw on the tube in the long drawn out games.
I just don't enjoy these games where they foul every 8 seconds and the last minute of the games take a 1/2 hour or more to wrap up.
I think fouling/free throws need to be addressed. With the three pointer, there is to much of a benefit to fouling at the end of the game.. The fouling team could potentially give up 0, 1, 2 points by fouling but could potentially get 3 points on their next possession. Fouls are to penalize the the team fouling
I like the idea of going to 4 quarters and taking away 1 or 2 timeouts, 4th foul in quarter is 2 freethrows and I would add 7th foul of quarter 2 freethrows and ball to eliminate all the late game fouling.
Don't see that happening because TV likes the drama and additional commercials they can throw on the tube in the long drawn out games.
I just don't enjoy these games where they foul every 8 seconds and the last minute of the games take a 1/2 hour or more to wrap up.
Consequently I think our defense will become even more Exposed
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Something like this has been needed for decades. The real key is that committing a foul is supposed to be a penalty on the team that does it. Instead, it is now an ADVANTAGE. That is simply not fair. It turns the intent of the foul rule upside down. I have no hope anything will be done about it, but it ruins basketball, IMHO.
Good rule change. As noted, will help open the middle a little more for scoring in the paint, and separate the real shooters. This will probably only affect Iowa's centers and CMac, who was already reluctant to shoot the 3, on the current roster.
I wish they would also go to 6 fouls, because there are generally many more possessions in the modern game with the shot clock. I hate it when you see many of the top players sitting on the bench for most of the first half with two fouls. With the extra foul, maybe the zebras should also call hand checking and bumping on defense more closely, to allow freedom of movement on offense.
I wish they would also go to 6 fouls, because there are generally many more possessions in the modern game with the shot clock. I hate it when you see many of the top players sitting on the bench for most of the first half with two fouls. With the extra foul, maybe the zebras should also call hand checking and bumping on defense more closely, to allow freedom of movement on offense.
Going to a 20 second reset for offensive rebounds is just needlessly complicating the game even more. This is getting ridiculous.
And TV timeouts, more importantly which helps the flow of the game.
I don't know. Guys like Bohannon you are always going to have to guard, it doesn't matter where you put the 3 point line. But teams will be able to back off even more from guys who aren't good 3 point shooters. I think it may have the opposite effect, making the lane more crowded.
Increased spacing on the offensive end will tend to expose the defensive weaknesses as isolation and 1 on 1 situations arise. I'm hopeful that Iowa's defensive efficiency continues to improve despite those challenges.
OR...just have some of the timeouts be for like 5 seconds. Basically just a clock stopper after a made basket, etc. It is bothersome to watch a close game nowadays as the incessant timeouts can extend the last 2 minutes of game clock to 20 actual minutes.
NBA does it at 14 seconds now & it adds possessions to the game. Not sure what you're bitching about.
Too complicated IMHO. And it doesn't add anything. A rebound should give a new, full posession.
using that logic, things need to be exactly comparable. do you think the team getting the offensive rebound should have to check it up and start the shit clock once they get back to the other side of the court? no response necessary.
Another unrelated rule change I would like to see is a shot clock for reviews. If they can't find refuting evidence in 2 min, go with the call and play on.
And dude is still launching out there past the current NCAA distance.
Want some fun, look at the NBA stats the first season of the 3 point line. Some examples...
(1979-80 was the first season to use the 3pt line)
- The Atlanta Hawks were 13-75 from 3 that season. The entire team. Like everyone. (Chris Boucher is a PF who played 163 min this year and made 12)
- The San Diego Clippers lead the league in makes, with 177, the Celtics lead in % at .384
- Brian Taylor of the Clippers lead the league with 90 3pt made (he'd have finished tied for 116th this year)
- The Clippers, Rockets and Celtics were the only teams to ATTEMPT more 3s that season than James Harden MADE this season.
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If you grew up in a large family and had only one bathroom, then there definitely is a sh!t clock…perhaps a tad longer than 24-30 seconds.
But not by much.
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