Its as if we're living in the movie Groundhog Day.
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I'd like to believe that's true for me as well. There's a switch that goes off in your head when it's your child in harms way.
Okay, I watched the video. Those police were strictly doing crowd control and maintaining crime scene integrity. Crime tape is already up.
do those parents have a right to answers? Yes. Do they have a right to be upset? Completely, yes.
do they have a right as an untrained public servant to enter a crime scene? No.
The shooting was likely over by this time!
I understand your point, but don’t make it something it isn’t
So we want parents running into the school during this? That would be even more of a cluster **** and more dangerous for everyone. Give me a break!
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No. We don’t. That’s the point. If I saw 8 cops go in there I’d sit there and wait and pray. But if I was there for 10 minutes and learned NO ONE had gone in yet, GTFO of the way or go get my kids.
Bubbs is about as far from a liberal as you can get. I don't think your post makes the point you were trying to make.
What makes you think no one had gone in yet by the time this video was being taken? Serious question. Did I miss something in that video?
I simply observed what was in the video which was directly opposite of what you stated.
You said that the police weren’t equipped to respond. In the video were a number of police with body armor and long guns.
You said that it was a small town police force who weren’t trained to respond. I posted evidence they had a SWAT unit.
Not once in my response to you did I suggest that parents should’ve run in. Nor have I chastised the police for waiting 40 minutes to enter the building The only time I referenced the 40 minute issue is to relay info that I have about where I work and how we wouldn't need 40 minutes to find a set of keys to a building.
I didn’t say they weren’t equipped, I simply asked if the first on the scene were sufficiently able to go against the firepower they were facing.
I didn’t say the small town force wasn’t trained. I only pointed out that it was a small town force and questioned their level of training.
I understand your thoughts and I get that you are invested in this…but don’t try and change why I said
Since I’m in the car….A LOT, I’ve got news on since Tuesday afternoon. They just had an interview with a city official who was at the school 22 minutes after the text messages went out that there was an active shooter. (I believe he was an elected city official that grew up in Uvalde, missed that part).
Anyway….22 minutes after the first text. The shooting was over. He said the biggest problem they had was controlling the parents at that point, understandably so. He was helping law enforcement control the growing crowd, who just wanted to get to their children, again, understandable. He heard no gun fire. He saw many, many LEO going in and out of the building, both sides, and many more assisti g in the evacuation of all children and adults who were In The building that they could get out. He did not know when the gunman was neutralized.
so…..the video does not mean law enforcement t wasn’t going in, it means exactly what I posted earlier, which was exactly what this person just interviewed confirmed.
Anyway….22 minutes after the first text. The shooting was over. He said the biggest problem they had was controlling the parents at that point, understandably so. He was helping law enforcement control the growing crowd, who just wanted to get to their children, again, understandable. He heard no gun fire. He saw many, many LEO going in and out of the building, both sides, and many more assisti g in the evacuation of all children and adults who were In The building that they could get out. He did not know when the gunman was neutralized.
so…..the video does not mean law enforcement t wasn’t going in, it means exactly what I posted earlier, which was exactly what this person just interviewed confirmed.
So about 22 minutes in. Cornered and/or out of ammo. Would be a reasonable guess.
She is very knowledgeable and also stated her opinion
Again, knee jerk reaction. For whatever reason, these folks aren’t providing g a detailed timeline. They will when they have decided it’s time. I hope that is fairly soon, cause it’s not a good look.
Exactly, since he dropped his ammo bag going in. LEO couldn’t possibly know that since they already had two wounded and had taken fire.
now, when the shooting stopped, not sure why they waited, other than the inability to access that door….maybe a short hall, a recessed opening? IDk, just throwing thoughts out there
How in the world could u cover it up. There is no way the full story wouldn't get out.
Maybe. Not saying there weren’t some things that could have been done better, but by the time (keep in mind it was a relatively short period of time) that the shooting g started and stopped, not sure any lives could have been saved.
The damage was already done. Sounds like they did a really good job of getting others out of harms way, not exactly knowing whether or not it was over or not
You're correct the silence on this is a real bad look. The reasons u gave shouldn't be a trade secret.
Agree. From what I've been reading it doesn't look good for the cops on the scene. Appeared more concerned with crowd control than going in. Unless their kid was in there. Obviously there needs to be crowd control but if it's my kid in there somebody better be doing something. Now.
A teacher was shielding her students. Every parent would have sacrificed themselves. Appears there were a bunch of cowards in uniforms.
We think this about 99% of the stuff out there that people lie about, yet it nearly always comes out in the end.
- What are you doing in New York?
- I'm a student.
- What school are you going to?
- I go to the University. Which one?
- The University of the United States.
- I've never heard of that.
- Well, it's a very small university. We do not even have a basketball team.
- Really? We've got an extra ticket for the St. John's game tomorrow. Want to come?
- Yes.
- Good. You can double-date with me and Darryl.
So much fail. If Abbott had any balls, he would dissolve that department and institute State control over the city. Of course, he’s probably busy attending another fundraiser.
It has been reported, many times, that there were over 80 line Forssman officials on the scene. How many carbs can you fit into a clown car? I see, white, six or seven in the video? Crowd control. That leaves over 70 to be evacuating students, faculty, and contain the crime scene.
Come on people!
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