46 percent of Americans support Trump's Muslim ban; 40 percent opposed

[The Tradition]

Despite an international uproar and condemnation by President Obama and nearly all of those running for the presidency, Donald Trump’s proposed ban on Muslims coming to the United States has the support of a sizable majority of Republicans – and a plurality of all voters.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 66% of Likely Republican Voters favor a temporary ban on all Muslims entering the United States until the federal government improves its ability to screen out potential terrorists from coming here. Just 24% oppose the plan, with 10% undecided.

Among all voters, 46% favor a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States, while 40% are opposed. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording,click here.)

Trump, the front-runner in the race for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, proposed the ban following last week’s massacre in San Bernardino, California. Sixty-five percent (65%) of voters believe the two shooters in the incident were radical Islamic terrorists. Those individuals had entered the United States without problem and escaped detection despite several actions here suggesting that they had violent intentions.

Fifty-nine percent (59%) of voters believe it is too easy for foreigners to legally enter the Untied States. Only 10% believe it is too hard, while 23% say the level of difficulty is about right.

Still, when thinking about immigration policy in general, 59% also feel that the United States should treat all potential immigrants equally, down only slightly from June. Thirty percent (30%) think the United States should allow more immigrants from some countries than others, a finding that’schanged very from past surveying. Eleven percent (11%) are not sure.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._2015/voters_like_trump_s_proposed_muslim_ban

 

[cigaretteman]

A sad testament to the Islamophobia of a great many Americans and their lack of respect for the constitution and American values. Quite a shameful revelation and a damning indictment of many so called "Americans."

 

[Huey Grey]

This suggests that Trump's disgusting hate speech won't hamper his campaign. He'll no doubt say something equally disgusting next week and still enjoy being the leader.

 

[cigaretteman]

This suggests that Trump's disgusting hate speech won't hamper his campaign. He'll no doubt say something equally disgusting next week and still enjoy being the leader.

Donald J. Trump commands the support of 35 percent of Republican primary voters in a Times/CBS News poll taken largely before his latest comments about Muslims, but nearly two-thirds of American voters say his candidacy concerns or frightens them.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...n-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

 

[Joes Place]

Trump is falling for precisely the strategy that the radical Islamists were hoping for. He may be the biggest spokesman to promote their propaganda and recruiting than they could have possibly hoped for.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

there is no international uproar, just the media being the media. he says it, we agree, his numbers bump higher, he doubles down

I know a few guys in Britain and Israel said a few things, big deal

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Trump is falling for precisely the strategy that the radical Islamists were hoping for. He may be the biggest spokesman to promote their propaganda and recruiting than they could have possibly hoped for.

I thought there were no Islamic extremists?

 

[ottumwan in tx]

He'll no doubt say something next week and still enjoy being the leader.

this. he might as well be saying Obama is an "N" word and Hillary is a "C".

 

[The Tradition]

this. he might as well be saying Obama is an "N" word and Hillary is a "C".

Cue up "Hail to the Chief"...

 

[Funky Bunch]

This doesn't surprise me. 43 percent of Republicans believe Obama is muslim. They probably think being in support of the ban means he has to move out of the country.

 

[Huey Grey]

this. he might as well be saying Obama is an "N" word and Hillary is a "C".

At this point, I don't think saying even that would kill his campaign.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Does anyone remember me constantly warning people like WWJD, Natural, Ciggy, Huey, and the rest of the Stalin Youth about the cons of a democracy? Well, here you go.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

This doesn't surprise me. 43 percent of Republicans believe Obama is muslim. They probably think being in support of the ban means he has to move out of the country.

I know Obama was a muslim when he went to school in Indonesia. his mom checked the "islam" box. what he did after that, who knows, but he shows great sympathies to muslims all the time, including the iran deal where he told them to nuke the usa and get rid of whitey, and when he campaigned with his uncle in Africa and his uncle torched white Christians and their churches.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

here is Obama campaigning with odinga, his uncle, who torches Christians in africa

 

[ottumwan in tx]

At this point, I don't think saying even that would kill his campaign.

I think it would get him elected, or installed rather

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Does anyone remember me constantly warning people like WWJD, Natural, Ciggy, Huey, and the rest of the Stalin Youth about the cons of a democracy? Well, here you go.

you mean like the neocons or the dem leaning repubbers? or the neocons in the democrat party?

 

[Run&Blade]

Trump is falling for precisely the strategy that the radical Islamists were hoping for. He may be the biggest spokesman to promote their propaganda and recruiting than they could have possibly hoped for.

If he welcomed them with open arms I am sure Isis would just stop everything.

That's a nice catch all statement that might get you some applause on Oprah but in reality, it is a bunch of shit.

 

[cigaretteman]

If he welcomed them with open arms I am sure Isis would just stop everything.

That's a nice catch all statement that might get you some applause on Oprah but in reality, it is a bunch of shit.

In fact his statement is right on the money. Sorry you're to dense to understand that.

 

[Joes Place]

If he welcomed them with open arms I am sure Isis would just stop everything.

That's a nice catch all statement that might get you some applause on Oprah but in reality, it is a bunch of shit.

That 'catch all' statement is consistent with most credible analysts on terrorism/extremism policy.

 

[Greenway12]

Gotta love the liberal mind -

Donald Trump saying something = great recruiting tool for ISIS, playing into their hands
Obama droning them, bombing them, sending in Special Forces = no effect

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Umm I have a question. . . how can we tell if they are Muslims or not??

 

[LifelongHawk]

 

[Funky Bunch]

Umm I have a question. . . how can we tell if they are Muslims or not??

TSA will also have screenings when you get off the plane

 

[Joes Place]

Gotta love the liberal mind -

Donald Trump saying something = great recruiting tool for ISIS, playing into their hands
Obama droning them, bombing them, sending in Special Forces = no effect

Think hard - there actually IS a big propaganda difference between the two, and it's very relevant with respect to terrorism abroad (limited to the ME) and domestic terrorism in the US.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Not that I agree with Trump's thought process, but how would deporting and banning all Muslims be playing into the hands of ISIS? If they can't get in the country, how do they plan and carry out terror attacks?

 

[IACub]

TSA will also have screenings when you get off the plane

This could get me to fly more often.

 

[lucas80]

People will do a lot of stupid things when they are fearful. Is Trump proposing to make everyone more frightened?
And, as I posted last week does the average American have a plan as to how this ban would work? Does the average American believe that the next logical step is to round up the muslims already here and deport them? Trump keeps saying it's all about a really good management plan. The Nazi's were great managers. Is that where the average American wants to go?

 

[Huey Grey]

Gotta love the liberal mind -

Donald Trump saying something = great recruiting tool for ISIS, playing into their hands
Obama droning them, bombing them, sending in Special Forces = no effect

Ordinary Muslims hate ISIS. They know their tactics. They don't respect them. So the US bombing ISIS wouldn't be all that useful in recruiting these ordinary Muslims. Quite the opposite. Ordinary Muslims want ISIS gone. But Trump's desire to ban Muslims isn't directed at ISIS. It's directed at ordinary Muslims. So ISIS could then use that as a recruitment strategy to say, "See, we were right all along. The United States hates Muslims. Join us before they try outlawing you."

 

[IACub]

People will do a lot of stupid things when they are fearful. Is Trump proposing to make everyone more frightened?
And, as I posted last week does the average American have a plan as to how this ban would work? Does the average American believe that the next logical step is to round up the muslims already here and deport them? Trump keeps saying it's all about a really good management plan. The Nazi's were great managers. Is that where the average American wants to go?

Just 35% of Republicans, apparently.

 

[LifelongHawk]

Not that I agree with Trump's thought process, but how would deporting and banning all Muslims be playing into the hands of ISIS? If they can't get in the country, how do they plan and carry out terror attacks?

Seriously? Sigh.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Seriously? Sigh.

Why don't you tell me how I'm wrong?

 

[Run&Blade]

In fact his statement is right on the money. Sorry you're to dense to understand that.

So that

 

[Run&Blade]

In fact his statement is right on the money. Sorry you're to dense to understand that.

Why did the couple in California kill all those people ? We are not currently banning Muslims. Why did the Boston marathon thing happen? Why are people leaving the u.s. To join Isis?

I think want you want to say is this: we want to say it is a factor but have no way to quantify it. Since it helps bash the opponent les run with it. If enough people repeat it, it becomes fact eventually.

Here is a fact: Isis wants to kill and will.

 

[jaffarosenfels]

Why don't you tell me how I'm wrong?

See Huey's post 3 posts up. It really is pretty simple and not surprisingly some just can't see more than one step ahead.

 

[Joes Place]

Ordinary Muslims hate ISIS. They know their tactics. They don't respect them. So the US bombing ISIS wouldn't be all that useful in recruiting these ordinary Muslims. Quite the opposite. Ordinary Muslims want ISIS gone. But Trump's desire to ban Muslims isn't directed at ISIS. It's directed at ordinary Muslims. So ISIS could then use that as a recruitment strategy to say, "See, we were right all along. The United States hates Muslims. Join us before they try outlawing you."

Amazing that someone actually has to type this out for some of the rightwing zealots to understand it. Even more amazing that a leading presidential candidate doesn't 'get it'. Even GW Bush 'got it', and he was VERY careful in his post-9/11 speeches to make the clarifications. Ergo: it seems that our current population of Republican candidates is far dumber than many claim GW Bush was....

 

[IACub]

Amazing that someone actually has to type this out for some of the rightwing zealots to understand it. Even more amazing that a leading presidential candidate doesn't 'get it'. Even GW Bush 'got it', and he was VERY careful in his post-9/11 speeches to make the clarifications. Ergo: it seems that our current population of Republican candidates is far dumber than many claim GW Bush was....

There's a happy thought.

 

[theIowaHawk]

Well, he told me that Muslim's approve of it, so who am I to complain?

 

[NoleSoup4U]

See Huey's post 3 posts up. It really is pretty simple and not surprisingly some just can't see more than one step ahead.

Recruitment is going up regardless, but that doesn't have anything to do with the ultimate discussion, which is keeping people in this country safe. If your end game was to keep people from being the target of Muslim/Arab attacks on our soil, don't you think that deporting and banning all those people would accomplish this?

I'm not discussing this from a personal point of view, in which I'm telling you what I think should be done. I'm discussing this from a reality point of view. People who are not here can't attack us. I think most of us could agree to that.

 

[IACub]

Recruitment is going up regardless, but that doesn't have anything to do with the ultimate discussion, which is keeping people in this country safe. If your end game was to keep people from being the target of Muslim/Arab attacks on our soil, don't you think that deporting and banning all those people would accomplish this?

I'm not discussing this from a personal point of view, in which I'm telling you what I think should be done. I'm discussing this from a reality point of view. People who are not here can't attack us. I think most of us could agree to that.

Yes, technically you're correct. If we deport all Muslims there will be no mass murders by Muslims on US soil. But this is like saying you need to stop eating food to prevent food poisoning.

 

[LifelongHawk]

Why don't you tell me how I'm wrong?

Let me count the ways.....

But only take the time to mention the tip of the iceberg, more would require depth of thought and be wasted on you.

The radicals in the Muslim world believe and blather that the West (US!) hates them for their religious belief. Ergo, they are part of a holy war going back 1500 years to Medina.

Radicals say the West (US!) claims to be for religious freedom and liberty, but are lying. If Trump's and your view is policy they are correct. After all, if Trump's and your view is policy, we stand for religious freedom for all except Muslims, and for liberty for all except Muslims.

The fundamental dispute is then, in their (and probably your) misguided world view, whose God is paramount. That is the radicals fundamental recruiting tool, do you love your God and if so you must be willing to fight and die for your God.

Just like Westboro Baptist and Planned Parenthood shooters who claim to act in the name of God DO NOT stand for your Christian views (I assume), actions of radical Islamists DO NOT stand for most Muslim's views.

Put it one other way, suppose briefly that Florida decided to deport and ban all Christians due to the horrific actions of Westboro and Planned Parenthood shooters in the name of Christianity. Would you have feelings (to the point of considering taking up arms) about a government that so treated all your congregation despite what you know to be their true beliefs and actions?

Of course you would, and of course the ignorant views of Trump significantly help radicals recruitment and loyalty in the Muslim world.

Sigh.

 

[cigaretteman]

Recruitment is going up regardless, but that doesn't have anything to do with the ultimate discussion, which is keeping people in this country safe. If your end game was to keep people from being the target of Muslim/Arab attacks on our soil, don't you think that deporting and banning all those people would accomplish this?

I'm not discussing this from a personal point of view, in which I'm telling you what I think should be done. I'm discussing this from a reality point of view. People who are not here can't attack us. I think most of us could agree to that.

So, are you seriously advocating deporting American citizens due to their religion? Do you not thing that might be just a little bit unconstitutional and unAmerican? Not to mention how much of a radicalization effect on this group of American citizens.