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60 Years of Democrats calling GOP candidates "Hitler/ Nazis"

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It's just gotta work this time!

Gerald Ford followed Nixon as president and as a Republican who was called a fascist. In 1974, a member of the American Civil Liberties Union criticized Ford for his lack of punitive action against Nixon.

“If [President] Ford’s principle had been the rule in Nuremberg,” he said, “the Nazi leaders would have been let off, and only the people, who carried out their schemes, would have been tried,” the ACLU said at the time.

Additionally, in the Gerald Ford Library Museum, a document describes an interaction with a woman in 1975 in which Ford was harassed and repeatedly called a “fascist” and a “fascist pig.”

Surely, over a decade of accusations and allegations of fascism never coming to fruition would stop Democrats from calling Republicans Nazis, fascists, or comparing them to Hitler, right?

Wrong.

Former President Ronald Reagan was the next target in the Democrats’ line of unsubstantiated accusations of fascism.

Rep. William Clay (D-MO) stated that Reagan wanted to “replace the Bill of Rights with fascist precepts lifted verbatim from Mein Kampf.”

The Los Angeles Times cartoonist Paul Conrad drew a panel depicting Reagan plotting a fascist putsch in a darkened Munich beer hall. Harry Stein (later a conservative convert) wrote in Esquire that the voters who supported Reagan were comparable to the “good Germans” in “Hitler’s Germany.”

American Enterprise Institute scholar Steven Hayward highlighted another incident in which the intelligentsia and academia also contributed to the Reagan fascist comparisons when John Roth, a Holocaust scholar from the Claremont Colleges, commented about Reagan’s election:

“I could not help remembering how 40 years ago economic turmoil had conspired with Nazi nationalism and militarism — all intensified by Germany’s defeat in World War I—to send the world reeling into catastrophe. … It is not entirely mistaken to contemplate our postelection state with fear and trembling.”

Former President George W. Bush might have been the Republican politician who faced the harshest and most vile criticism before Trump. Bush was regularly called every dirty name in the book, from racist to Nazi to fascist to war criminal. There are many examples of linking Bush to Hitler, Nazis, and fascists.

In 2012, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT), the same Romney so many Democrats love today, was also linked to Nazis and fascism. One delegate from Kansas (at the time) said Romney was a habitual liar and likened him to Hitler “while criticizing the accuracy of Romney’s campaign talking points.”

A chairman of the California Democratic Party compared then-vice presidential candidate (and eventual former Speaker of the House) Paul Ryan, again, the same Ryan loved by many Democrats today, to Nazi filmmaker and propagandist Joseph Goebbels.
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Two things and btw this is a good point you make.

1) Trump's own former cohorts agree he's at least fascist friendly for sure.
2) Trump's actions in the 2020 election go well beyond what any former President has attempted.

I don't think Trump is anywhere close to Hitler when it comes to rounding up groups of people and doing what Hitler did. I do think he has authoritian tendencies and has already broken the peaceful transfer of power that we ALWAYS had. That's what made America unique imo.
 
Two things and btw this is a good point you make.

1) Trump's own former cohorts agree he's at least fascist friendly for sure.
2) Trump's actions in the 2020 election go well beyond what any former President has attempted.

I don't think Trump is anywhere close to Hitler when it comes to rounding up groups of people and doing what Hitler did. I do think he has authoritian tendencies and has already broken the peaceful transfer of power that we ALWAYS had. That's what made America unique imo.
My point, which has been my point since 2016, is when you call Ford, Reagan and Romney "Hitler and Nazis", then people correctly stop listening to that dumb shit, eventually. Which sucks for you when you finally say it and might be correct.
 
My point, which has been my point since 2016, is when you call Ford, Reagan and Romney "Hitler and Nazis", then people correctly stop listening to that dumb shit, eventually. Which sucks for you when you finally say it and might be correct.
Frankly, I think this is bullshit, but am prepared to be proven wrong. Lived through all of those and don't recall hearing it a single time. Feels like jackass revisionist history to lump a POS in with candidates that were solid, but carry on.
 
My point, which has been my point since 2016, is when you call Ford, Reagan and Romney "Hitler and Nazis", then people correctly stop listening to that dumb shit, eventually. Which sucks for you when you finally say it and might be correct.
It is comical:

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The Senate and Civil Rights: Cloture and Final Passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

With six wavering senators providing a four-vote margin of victory, the final tally stood at 71 to 29—27 Republicans and 44 Democrats joined forces to support cloture. They were opposed by nay votes from six Republicans and 21 Democrats. The Senate’s civil rights proponents had achieved a remarkable victory.
 
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It's just gotta work this time!

Gerald Ford followed Nixon as president and as a Republican who was called a fascist. In 1974, a member of the American Civil Liberties Union criticized Ford for his lack of punitive action against Nixon.

“If [President] Ford’s principle had been the rule in Nuremberg,” he said, “the Nazi leaders would have been let off, and only the people, who carried out their schemes, would have been tried,” the ACLU said at the time.

Additionally, in the Gerald Ford Library Museum, a document describes an interaction with a woman in 1975 in which Ford was harassed and repeatedly called a “fascist” and a “fascist pig.”

Surely, over a decade of accusations and allegations of fascism never coming to fruition would stop Democrats from calling Republicans Nazis, fascists, or comparing them to Hitler, right?

Wrong.

Former President Ronald Reagan was the next target in the Democrats’ line of unsubstantiated accusations of fascism.

Rep. William Clay (D-MO) stated that Reagan wanted to “replace the Bill of Rights with fascist precepts lifted verbatim from Mein Kampf.”

The Los Angeles Times cartoonist Paul Conrad drew a panel depicting Reagan plotting a fascist putsch in a darkened Munich beer hall. Harry Stein (later a conservative convert) wrote in Esquire that the voters who supported Reagan were comparable to the “good Germans” in “Hitler’s Germany.”

American Enterprise Institute scholar Steven Hayward highlighted another incident in which the intelligentsia and academia also contributed to the Reagan fascist comparisons when John Roth, a Holocaust scholar from the Claremont Colleges, commented about Reagan’s election:

“I could not help remembering how 40 years ago economic turmoil had conspired with Nazi nationalism and militarism — all intensified by Germany’s defeat in World War I—to send the world reeling into catastrophe. … It is not entirely mistaken to contemplate our postelection state with fear and trembling.”

Former President George W. Bush might have been the Republican politician who faced the harshest and most vile criticism before Trump. Bush was regularly called every dirty name in the book, from racist to Nazi to fascist to war criminal. There are many examples of linking Bush to Hitler, Nazis, and fascists.

In 2012, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT), the same Romney so many Democrats love today, was also linked to Nazis and fascism. One delegate from Kansas (at the time) said Romney was a habitual liar and likened him to Hitler “while criticizing the accuracy of Romney’s campaign talking points.”

A chairman of the California Democratic Party compared then-vice presidential candidate (and eventual former Speaker of the House) Paul Ryan, again, the same Ryan loved by many Democrats today, to Nazi filmmaker and propagandist Joseph Goebbels.
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Can you do all the times Republicans called the Republican running for President that they used to work for a Nazi?
 
My point, which has been my point since 2016, is when you call Ford, Reagan and Romney "Hitler and Nazis", then people correctly stop listening to that dumb shit, eventually. Which sucks for you when you finally say it and might be correct.

How many times have former Republicans called the former Republican president facist or Hilter? I’ll wait for the comprehensive list.

For the record I agree with you in principal. When people were dogging Mitt Romney and HWB I thought it was ridiculous.
 
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Apparently the type of rhetoric that gets presidents shot, "causing violence" as the Dems like to put it, is fine if it comes from their own mouths.
 
How many times have former Republicans called the former Republican president facist or Hilter? I’ll wait for the comprehensive list.

For the record I agree with you in principal. When people were dogging Mitt Romney and HWB I thought it was ridiculous.
OK. And it's my point. Those words become white noise with a dose of "Not this shit again" when people start hearing it. Because Dems have not been able to control themselves in EVERY election. And here we are now when it's meaningful and no one gives a shit because of 60 years of everyone hearing it.
 
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"One delegate from Kansas" likened Mitt Romney to Hitler. Totally the same as the current Trump situation.

Hot take as usual, OP.
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Milton Wolf is a tea party Republican in Kansas challenging incumbent conservative GOP Sen. Pat Roberts because he believes Roberts is not sufficiently conservative. He has equated President Barack Obama’s treatment of successful Americans to Hitler’s treatment of Jews and gypsies. He has compared Obama to a “less despotic” Benito Mussolini.
 
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It's just gotta work this time!

Gerald Ford followed Nixon as president and as a Republican who was called a fascist. In 1974, a member of the American Civil Liberties Union criticized Ford for his lack of punitive action against Nixon.

“If [President] Ford’s principle had been the rule in Nuremberg,” he said, “the Nazi leaders would have been let off, and only the people, who carried out their schemes, would have been tried,” the ACLU said at the time.

Additionally, in the Gerald Ford Library Museum, a document describes an interaction with a woman in 1975 in which Ford was harassed and repeatedly called a “fascist” and a “fascist pig.”

Surely, over a decade of accusations and allegations of fascism never coming to fruition would stop Democrats from calling Republicans Nazis, fascists, or comparing them to Hitler, right?

Wrong.

Former President Ronald Reagan was the next target in the Democrats’ line of unsubstantiated accusations of fascism.

Rep. William Clay (D-MO) stated that Reagan wanted to “replace the Bill of Rights with fascist precepts lifted verbatim from Mein Kampf.”

The Los Angeles Times cartoonist Paul Conrad drew a panel depicting Reagan plotting a fascist putsch in a darkened Munich beer hall. Harry Stein (later a conservative convert) wrote in Esquire that the voters who supported Reagan were comparable to the “good Germans” in “Hitler’s Germany.”

American Enterprise Institute scholar Steven Hayward highlighted another incident in which the intelligentsia and academia also contributed to the Reagan fascist comparisons when John Roth, a Holocaust scholar from the Claremont Colleges, commented about Reagan’s election:

“I could not help remembering how 40 years ago economic turmoil had conspired with Nazi nationalism and militarism — all intensified by Germany’s defeat in World War I—to send the world reeling into catastrophe. … It is not entirely mistaken to contemplate our postelection state with fear and trembling.”

Former President George W. Bush might have been the Republican politician who faced the harshest and most vile criticism before Trump. Bush was regularly called every dirty name in the book, from racist to Nazi to fascist to war criminal. There are many examples of linking Bush to Hitler, Nazis, and fascists.

In 2012, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT), the same Romney so many Democrats love today, was also linked to Nazis and fascism. One delegate from Kansas (at the time) said Romney was a habitual liar and likened him to Hitler “while criticizing the accuracy of Romney’s campaign talking points.”

A chairman of the California Democratic Party compared then-vice presidential candidate (and eventual former Speaker of the House) Paul Ryan, again, the same Ryan loved by many Democrats today, to Nazi filmmaker and propagandist Joseph Goebbels.
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Damn straight....Republican equals Nazi....and Nicky Haley fans should get prepared if she ever decides to run again....Any future nominee will get the same treatment....And they wonder why they are gonna lose...the American people just aren't as stupid as the Dems think....
 
It's just gotta work this time!

Gerald Ford followed Nixon as president and as a Republican who was called a fascist. In 1974, a member of the American Civil Liberties Union criticized Ford for his lack of punitive action against Nixon.

“If [President] Ford’s principle had been the rule in Nuremberg,” he said, “the Nazi leaders would have been let off, and only the people, who carried out their schemes, would have been tried,” the ACLU said at the time.

Additionally, in the Gerald Ford Library Museum, a document describes an interaction with a woman in 1975 in which Ford was harassed and repeatedly called a “fascist” and a “fascist pig.”

Surely, over a decade of accusations and allegations of fascism never coming to fruition would stop Democrats from calling Republicans Nazis, fascists, or comparing them to Hitler, right?

Wrong.

Former President Ronald Reagan was the next target in the Democrats’ line of unsubstantiated accusations of fascism.

Rep. William Clay (D-MO) stated that Reagan wanted to “replace the Bill of Rights with fascist precepts lifted verbatim from Mein Kampf.”

The Los Angeles Times cartoonist Paul Conrad drew a panel depicting Reagan plotting a fascist putsch in a darkened Munich beer hall. Harry Stein (later a conservative convert) wrote in Esquire that the voters who supported Reagan were comparable to the “good Germans” in “Hitler’s Germany.”

American Enterprise Institute scholar Steven Hayward highlighted another incident in which the intelligentsia and academia also contributed to the Reagan fascist comparisons when John Roth, a Holocaust scholar from the Claremont Colleges, commented about Reagan’s election:

“I could not help remembering how 40 years ago economic turmoil had conspired with Nazi nationalism and militarism — all intensified by Germany’s defeat in World War I—to send the world reeling into catastrophe. … It is not entirely mistaken to contemplate our postelection state with fear and trembling.”

Former President George W. Bush might have been the Republican politician who faced the harshest and most vile criticism before Trump. Bush was regularly called every dirty name in the book, from racist to Nazi to fascist to war criminal. There are many examples of linking Bush to Hitler, Nazis, and fascists.

In 2012, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT), the same Romney so many Democrats love today, was also linked to Nazis and fascism. One delegate from Kansas (at the time) said Romney was a habitual liar and likened him to Hitler “while criticizing the accuracy of Romney’s campaign talking points.”

A chairman of the California Democratic Party compared then-vice presidential candidate (and eventual former Speaker of the House) Paul Ryan, again, the same Ryan loved by many Democrats today, to Nazi filmmaker and propagandist Joseph Goebbels.
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60 years of being the victim. When will rich straight white men catch a break?
 
It's just gotta work this time!

Gerald Ford followed Nixon as president and as a Republican who was called a fascist. In 1974, a member of the American Civil Liberties Union criticized Ford for his lack of punitive action against Nixon.

“If [President] Ford’s principle had been the rule in Nuremberg,” he said, “the Nazi leaders would have been let off, and only the people, who carried out their schemes, would have been tried,” the ACLU said at the time.

Additionally, in the Gerald Ford Library Museum, a document describes an interaction with a woman in 1975 in which Ford was harassed and repeatedly called a “fascist” and a “fascist pig.”

Surely, over a decade of accusations and allegations of fascism never coming to fruition would stop Democrats from calling Republicans Nazis, fascists, or comparing them to Hitler, right?

Wrong.

Former President Ronald Reagan was the next target in the Democrats’ line of unsubstantiated accusations of fascism.

Rep. William Clay (D-MO) stated that Reagan wanted to “replace the Bill of Rights with fascist precepts lifted verbatim from Mein Kampf.”

The Los Angeles Times cartoonist Paul Conrad drew a panel depicting Reagan plotting a fascist putsch in a darkened Munich beer hall. Harry Stein (later a conservative convert) wrote in Esquire that the voters who supported Reagan were comparable to the “good Germans” in “Hitler’s Germany.”

American Enterprise Institute scholar Steven Hayward highlighted another incident in which the intelligentsia and academia also contributed to the Reagan fascist comparisons when John Roth, a Holocaust scholar from the Claremont Colleges, commented about Reagan’s election:

“I could not help remembering how 40 years ago economic turmoil had conspired with Nazi nationalism and militarism — all intensified by Germany’s defeat in World War I—to send the world reeling into catastrophe. … It is not entirely mistaken to contemplate our postelection state with fear and trembling.”

Former President George W. Bush might have been the Republican politician who faced the harshest and most vile criticism before Trump. Bush was regularly called every dirty name in the book, from racist to Nazi to fascist to war criminal. There are many examples of linking Bush to Hitler, Nazis, and fascists.

In 2012, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT), the same Romney so many Democrats love today, was also linked to Nazis and fascism. One delegate from Kansas (at the time) said Romney was a habitual liar and likened him to Hitler “while criticizing the accuracy of Romney’s campaign talking points.”

A chairman of the California Democratic Party compared then-vice presidential candidate (and eventual former Speaker of the House) Paul Ryan, again, the same Ryan loved by many Democrats today, to Nazi filmmaker and propagandist Joseph Goebbels.
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What, you don't think people on the right have been calling people on the left Nazi's? You will always find individuals doing these things and just like it is dumb to say when you are not correct, it is even dumber to bring them up years later as if their opinion had any sway in the general opinion of the public or the decisions a major party made. At no point did the Democratic Party ever start calling Republican Nazis. Random people who were Democrats may have, but it was never part of the platform. Now, it's not just Democrats calling Trump...well, a fascist, it's Republicans. And not "fake" Republicans either. Long time conservatives. I'm not surprised you would try to minimize the current threat with stuff like this though.
 
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Apparently the type of rhetoric that gets presidents shot, "causing violence" as the Dems like to put it, is fine if it comes from their own mouths.
Calling a bad person a bad person isn't violent rhetoric. Not one person in power has called for or incited violence against Trump. But Trump has certainly called for actual violence and retribution against his opponents and anyone he feels has wronged him, asked him a difficult question, or just wasn't very nice to him that day. Your strawman argument is bullshit.
 
Calling a bad person a bad person isn't violent rhetoric. Not one person in power has called for or incited violence against Trump. But Trump has certainly called for actual violence and retribution against his opponents and anyone he feels has wronged him, asked him a difficult question, or just wasn't very nice to him that day. Your strawman argument is bullshit.
Ok, I'm convinced.
 
My point, which has been my point since 2016, is when you call Ford, Reagan and Romney "Hitler and Nazis", then people correctly stop listening to that dumb shit, eventually. Which sucks for you when you finally say it and might be correct.

Two problems here.

You are kind of picking and choosing a bit. It's not like "Romney is a facist" was the dem talking point in 2012. Were there individual dems even may be a few elected dems who said it. Yes. Was it a talking point? No. Did Obama or Biden ever say it?

The second part is where your own brain comes in. You shouldn't get your cues from a person's political opponents, you should evaluate for yourself if these things are true.

I think Trump is an authoritarian because he tried to stay in power when he was voted out. And it wasn't just that he filed all those lawsuits which where ridiculous, but he also clearly engaged in illegal acts in his attempt to do so. I don't need the Dems to tell me that, it's common knowledge.

Also Dems have been called socialists or communists since WW2 and they havn't ever nominated an actual socialist.
 
My point, which has been my point since 2016, is when you call Ford, Reagan and Romney "Hitler and Nazis", then people correctly stop listening to that dumb shit, eventually. Which sucks for you when you finally say it and might be correct.
I mean yea, but how many people who called Ford a "nazi" are still alive? That was almost 50 years ago.

Plus, if we want to debate semantics, Rs have called Ds socialists pretty much my entire life so you could say the same thing on that front as well.

Also, it doesn't just suck for Dems. It sucks for everyone. What if Trump narrowly wins the election and Harris and Biden decide to pull a "trump" and not certify the election? This is a vicious cycle we are getting ourselves into in which everyone loses.
 
Frankly, I think this is bullshit, but am prepared to be proven wrong. Lived through all of those and don't recall hearing it a single time. Feels like jackass revisionist history to lump a POS in with candidates that were solid, but carry on.
It is bullshit. And it’s not just some left wing fringe Democrats but ALSO Republicans, including those that worked closest with him. Moreover, Trump’s the one openly admitting his admiration for Hitler. And that’s because a few far left individuals have gone off the rail in years past? Typical FAUlty downplaying of this shit. 85 years or so ago, he’d be apologizing for Lindbergh.
 
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It’s comical isn’t it. What makes it better in my mind is that this group just threw Kamala into the race after forcing Biden out.
Yeah, and they always talk about Trump's dangerous rhetoric too... Biden/Harris even called for rhetoric to be toned down after the first assassination attempt.

Trump has said NOTHING to the level of directly calling an opponent fascist/Nazi.

It's not even comical, it's disgusting.

Unrelated: I saw the Biden/Harris admin we successful against Virginia, reinstating the non-citizens and dead people into the voter rolls for this election... Um. Congrats?
 
How many times have former Republicans called the former Republican president facist or Hilter? I’ll wait for the comprehensive list.
Remember when H.W. Bush was cool with his supporters wanting to hang Dan Quayle? Or when Reagan's defense secretary likened him to ruthless and murderous dictators? Or when Reagan's chief of staff called him a threat to democracy? Or when some on Romney's staff said he mused about envying aspects of the Third Reich? Or when Ford lied about an election and fanned the flames for the Capitol to be attacked? Or when John McCain mocked service members and said the dead ones were losers? Or there was even that one time...
 
Yeah, and they always talk about Trump's dangerous rhetoric too... Biden/Harris even called for rhetoric to be toned down after the first assassination attempt.

Trump has said NOTHING to the level of directly calling an opponent fascist/Nazi.

It's not even comical, it's disgusting.

Unrelated: I saw the Biden/Harris admin we successful against Virginia, reinstating the non-citizens and dead people into the voter rolls for this election... Um. Congrats?
Are you effing kidding me? Trump's entire campaign is based on hate and retribution and revenge.
 
I don't think the writer makes a very persuasive case that these anecdotes/examples from each 'era' or candidate is representative of the general environment or conditions at the time. He found an example of a Democrat using Nazi/fascism language about the Republican candidate at the time: So what?

It's obvious what logical leaps he wants the reader to make, but he doesn't make the case. But it works on people.
 
Remember when H.W. Bush was cool with his supporters wanting to hang Dan Quayle? Or when Reagan's defense secretary likened him to ruthless and murderous dictators? Or when Reagan's chief of staff called him a threat to democracy? Or when some on Romney's staff said he mused about envying aspects of the Third Reich? Or when John McCain mocked service members and said the dead ones were losers? Or there was even that one time...

Sure, but since a Democrat used a Nazi reference with Nixon and a different one used one on Reagan, and another one used a fascism reference on Romney, and none of them murdered six million Jews. That means everything about Trump should be ignored because Democrats always say these things and it's BS.
 
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