A ‘curvier’ high school swimmer won — only to be disqualified because of a ‘suit wedgie’

[AuroraHawk]

Also an principal telling a parent they aren't allowed to take pictures of other people's children? Good luck enforcing that rules douchebag.

It is a well established rule in club swimming and high school swimming that no one is allowed to take pictures of the swimmers from behind when they are on the blocks.

Perfectly fine to take pictures from the other end of the pool or from the side.

Maybe you think it is acceptable (and maybe cool) to condone taking those kind of photographs but, for normal thinking people, the rule is reasonable and self-explanatory.

Personally, I think that your “douchebag” reference is misdirected.

 

[SoFla-Hawkeye]

This picture is posted only for illustrative purposes of what a "curvy biracial female" wearing a swimsuit could look like and is in no manner whatsoever to imply this is the high school swimmer

 

[GOHOX69]

These threads are like car accidents. Can't help but gawk then say a quick prayer and drive away. There is so much to see and say here but best to move along

 

[AuroraHawk]

This solves most of the issues. Why this isn’t an option for every girl is my question.

School was dumb and insensitive.

Umm ... between $150-$200 and a life expectancy of 5 to 7 meets.

 

[GOHOX69]

These threads are like car accidents. Can't help but gawk then say a quick prayer and drive away. There is so much to see and say here but best to move along

FYI I dated a female swimmer at Iowa during my college days. The stories I could share....

 

[naturalmwa]

This reminds me of that wrestler who was forced to cut his hair.

 

[AuroraHawk]

It is a well established rule in club swimming and high school swimming that no one is allowed to take pictures of the swimmers from behind when they are on the blocks.

Perfectly fine to take pictures from the other end of the pool or from the side.

Maybe you think it is acceptable (and maybe cool) to condone taking those kind of photographs but, for normal thinking people, the rule is reasonable and self-explanatory.

Personally, I think that your “douchebag” reference is misdirected.

I’d also add that, based upon the guys I regularly see at our daughters’ club and high school meets (no pics), we wouldn’t need a principal to enforce the rule. There would be no shortage of guys ready and willing to enforce the rule themselves - myself included.

 

[hawkifann]

The DQ comes about based on when it is noticed she is not legally equipped for the competition. Walking on the pool deck her suit may have looked fine but when racing it creeped up and in. Every school that is a member of NFHS received the same information at the beginning of the season around how this rule would be handled this year and it was clear, swimmers would be DQ if the are improperly attired.

This is really similar to the wrestler haircut from last year. The rules were explained, warnings given, but they chose a hair covering that did not meet the rules. This girl had other swimsuit options. Either the school could provide a larger suit or she could buy her own. If she is a collegiate level swimmer the team suit is not the only one she owns. I have joked with my wife that I may go to Walmart and buy a "granny panty" suit complete with skirt to give the first girl on my team that gets caught with her suit up her butt.

My team all knows the rule and about 75% of them don't care. So far the officials have let it slide but I know we will run into at least one this year that is going to be a dick about it and then the parents will be in an uproar even though they know about the rule. I should be proactive and stop letting the girls compete in suits that run a fowl of the rule but it is not worth the risk. Being male if I were to recommend swimwear or punish someone for their suit not fitting correctly the metoo movement would be at my door and I just am not up for that fight.

I get that it's a rule and communicated.....but it just seems like a ridiculous rule and more of the on-going "protect me from seeing the female figure because it's bad" thing.

 

[hawkedoff]

It's on private property - schools OFTEN have much stricter rules on photos on their property. My photogs have to get permission to even go on school grounds to shoot and then must secure permission from parents of any kids they photograph.

Maybe stick to yappping about things you know about.

Which will be great for all of us, as you will not be heard from.

You truly are a moron. A school administrator is telling a person they cannot take an publish photos of other people's kids and this is your response.

I'm sure the Gazette will follow that rule this Friday at the football games they cover right?

Perhaps you should follow your own advice. Good lord you are stupid

 

[torbee]

You truly are a moron. A school administrator is telling a person they cannot take an publish photos of other people's kids and this is your response.

I'm sure the Gazette will follow that rule this Friday at the football games they cover right?

Perhaps you should follow your own advice. Good lord you are stupid

The fact you think that photogs don't have to - at the beginning of every school year - get permission to shoot high school sporting events, proves you are the idiot.

Idiot.

 

[hawkedoff]

It is a well established rule in club swimming and high school swimming that no one is allowed to take pictures of the swimmers from behind when they are on the blocks.

Perfectly fine to take pictures from the other end of the pool or from the side.

Maybe you think it is acceptable (and maybe cool) to condone taking those kind of photographs but, for normal thinking people, the rule is reasonable and self-explanatory.

Personally, I think that your “douchebag” reference is misdirected.

And your unwritten rule has no bearing whatsoever on what a person is legally allowed to do in public. And that includes taking pictures of other people.

What the school administrator stated is not enforceable nor does the administrator have the legal authority to enforce it although I'm sure they would try.

In other words if push really came to shove the school would get sued and they would lose. Especially when one considers the parent was taking the photo as an example of exactly what the complaint is against the swimsuits the school purchased.

 

[hawkedoff]

The fact you think that photogs don't have to - at the beginning of every school year - get permission to shoot high school sporting events, proves you are the idiot.

Idiot.

You think everyone photographed at a school function has signed a waiver to be photographed? Are you ****ing kidding?

And no. Photographers are not getting permission to shoot at school events.

 

[torbee]

You truly are a moron. A school administrator is telling a person they cannot take an publish photos of other people's kids and this is your response.

I'm sure the Gazette will follow that rule this Friday at the football games they cover right?

Perhaps you should follow your own advice. Good lord you are stupid

Also, the word is AND not AN.

When you did it in response to Aurora's post I chalked it up to a typo. But then you repeated it in your response to mine, proving your imbecility.

 

[torbee]

You think everyone photographed at a school function has signed a waiver to be photographed? Are you ****ing kidding?

You are about as shitty at reading as you are at developing a cogent thought or employing grammar.

 

[hawkedoff]

Also, the word is AND not AN.

When you did it in response to Aurora's post I chalked it up to a typo. But then you repeated it in your response to mine, proving your imbecility.

Or I am typing on a phone and you truly are a ****ing moron torbee. Go back to jerking off on Tuesdays or whatever you do to feel good about yourself

 

[hawkedoff]

https://lifehacker.com/know-your-rights-photography-in-public-5912250

Pretty much exactly what I was stating. The professional journalist in the room should probably brush up a bit. There is no expectation of privacy in public. A school swim meet is public

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

My word, you people suck...

And for our Noles...

 

[HaydenHawk8]

Feel bad for the girl. I am sure see is very aware of how the team swimsuit doesn’t fit her well.

The coach/school should also consider this when choosing suits. There are plenty of competitive suits where the suit extends down to mid thigh and never wedge up.

Body suits for all swimmers! That way it’s fair!

 

[UNIowaHawk]

I hope the official is outed. Whomever the official is should absolutely own their decision and face scrutiny over that decision.

I hope the young woman sues. Unfortunately that seems to be the only way to make people in authority pay attention and make changes

Are you upset with the official or the rule? An officials job is to uphold the rules, not make up rules or only choose to enforce certain rules as they see fit.

 

[unIowa]

To me that gal is still the winner, congrats to her!

 

[PoopandBoogers]

Body suits for all swimmers! That way it’s fair!

Burkinis!

 

[hawkedoff]

Are you upset with the official or the rule? An officials job is to uphold the rules, not make up rules or only choose to enforce certain rules as they see fit.

I am upset that a young woman was embarrassed for wearing a swimsuit issued to her by the school. That everyone else wearing that same swimsuit was not disqualified. Evidently some parents had an issue with how revealing the swimsuit was as well but ultimately it is this young woman that was embarrassed and disqualified for wearing the uniform she was issued

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

How does a conforming suit pre-race become a non-conforming suit post-race? Shrinkage? Did it dissolve?

This is pencil headed stupidity from the NFHS, the kings of pencil headed stupidity. If the rule is to be enforced it should be prior to the race. No enforcement should be allowed post race. The suits don’t magically change once wet. FFS!!!

 

[AuroraHawk]

And your unwritten rule has no bearing whatsoever on what a person is legally allowed to do in public. And that includes taking pictures of other people.

What the school administrator stated is not enforceable nor does the administrator have the legal authority to enforce it although I'm sure they would try.

In other words if push really came to shove the school would get sued and they would lose. Especially when one considers the parent was taking the photo as an example of exactly what the complaint is against the swimsuits the school purchased.

Unwritten? Nope. Nice try. I’ve seen the rule posted in pool areas.

When I go to a football game on a Friday night, does that give me the right to walk on the field because I want to take pictures? Can I stand under the goal post and take pictures? Am I allowed to roam the sidelines and take photos? Can I take photos of the players looking at the contents of their playbooks? Or, can the school restrict what areas I’m allowed access?

The bottom line is simple. A parent can take pictures from the stand but they aren’t not allowed to go on the deck and stand behind the female swimmers and take pictures of them as they are on the blocks and ready to start the race.

Your suggestion that a school can’t enforce such a rule is moronic.

 

[Oldkeokukchief1970]

This girl was disqualified for having a cheek out? Good lord I hope the ihsa dont go to football games and start disqualifying teams for what their fans wear,from what I have seen the high schoolers wear only one check exposed would be over dressed

 

[AuroraHawk]

How does a conforming suit pre-race become a non-conforming suit post-race? Shrinkage? Did it dissolve?

This is pencil headed stupidity from the NFHS, the kings of pencil headed stupidity. If the rule is to be enforced it should be prior to the race. No enforcement should be allowed post race. The suits don’t magically change once wet. FFS!!!

The swimsuits don’t magically change when wet but ... picture a wedgie. Suits can “ride” up during a race. Not unusual to see a swimmer “adjust” her suit as she is exiting the pool.

 

[lucas80]

FYI I dated a female swimmer at Iowa during my college days. The stories I could share....

I like how you made sure to throw in that it was a female swimmer.

 

[HawkMD]

Here. This is what everyone was looking for when they opened the thread.

One thing is not like the other....

 

[lucas80]

It's a good thing that they don't have boys wrestling in Alaska. Those singlets might as well be mesh depending on the color, the sweat produced by the wrestler, and how they ride up during a match.

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

The swimsuits don’t magically change when wet but ... picture a wedgie. Suits can “ride” up during a race. Not unusual to see a swimmer “adjust” her suit as she is exiting the pool.

That’s kind of my point. The suit didn’t change, it just moved. Implement a “fix the wedgie” rule then. I’m sure every pencil head at NFHS and power hungry meet official will eat that up too! So stupid. A rule looking for a victim to enforce it on. Bunch of damn prudes.

 

[GOHOX69]

I like how you made sure to throw in that it was a female swimmer.

It's hrot after all

 

[millah_22]

Whole lotta posts and no pictures.

 

[h-hawk]

Cute kid. One on left if other photo continues to not show up.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Did you read the story? The guy took a picture of the girl's ass cheek for the sole purpose of shaming her.

Oh, I thought he allegedly did it because he was a perv.

So it's not that he took a pic, nor that we allow kids to parade in soft porn clothing that attracts pervs, but a question of shaming.

I'm opposed to shaming in this context. Sometimes shaming is a good thing, but not this sort of shaming.

 

[cidhawkeye]

Unwritten? Nope. Nice try. I’ve seen the rule posted in pool areas.

When I go to a football game on a Friday night, does that give me the right to walk on the field because I want to take pictures? Can I stand under the goal post and take pictures? Am I allowed to roam the sidelines and take photos? Can I take photos of the players looking at the contents of their playbooks? Or, can the school restrict what areas I’m allowed access?

The bottom line is simple. A parent can take pictures from the stand but they aren’t not allowed to go on the deck and stand behind the female swimmers and take pictures of them as they are on the blocks and ready to start the race.

Your suggestion that a school can’t enforce such a rule is moronic.

Not a great analogy

 

[cidhawkeye]

Is this an issue if she finishes 3rd? Same suit.

 

[hawkedoff]

Unwritten? Nope. Nice try. I’ve seen the rule posted in pool areas.

When I go to a football game on a Friday night, does that give me the right to walk on the field because I want to take pictures? Can I stand under the goal post and take pictures? Am I allowed to roam the sidelines and take photos? Can I take photos of the players looking at the contents of their playbooks? Or, can the school restrict what areas I’m allowed access?

The bottom line is simple. A parent can take pictures from the stand but they aren’t not allowed to go on the deck and stand behind the female swimmers and take pictures of them as they are on the blocks and ready to start the race.

Your suggestion that a school can’t enforce such a rule is moronic.

Go ahead and show where I said someone can go to the pool deck?

The parent in question didn't go onto the pool deck. They were in the stands and took a photo. A school administrator puffed themselves up and told the parent they aren't allowed to take photos of other people's kids. The school administrator is an idiot and if pursued would lose in court attempting to enforce that proclamation.

If the school administrator instead had discussed bullying provisions they would have likely been on safe ground.

 

[DFSNOLE]

The decision to disqualify a winning high school swimmer because the Alaska athlete's swimsuit showed too much of her backside has been reversed.

The state's governing body for high school sports on Tuesday overturned the ruling about Dimond High School swimmer Breckynn Willis, 17, who was disqualified after a win Friday during a dual meet against Chugiak High School, according to NBC affiliate KTUU of Anchorage.

 

[cigaretteman]

The decision to disqualify a winning high school swimmer because the Alaska athlete's swimsuit showed too much of her backside has been reversed.

The state's governing body for high school sports on Tuesday overturned the ruling about Dimond High School swimmer Breckynn Willis, 17, who was disqualified after a win Friday during a dual meet against Chugiak High School, according to NBC affiliate KTUU of Anchorage.

Good move. Now, will any High School be able to enforce the rule though? It sounds like NFHS needs to change the rule or mandate the type of suit that won't ride up.

 

[BABiscuit]

Go ahead and show where I said someone can go to the pool deck?

The parent in question didn't go onto the pool deck. They were in the stands and took a photo. A school administrator puffed themselves up and told the parent they aren't allowed to take photos of other people's kids. The school administrator is an idiot and if pursued would lose in court attempting to enforce that proclamation.

If the school administrator instead had discussed bullying provisions they would have likely been on safe ground.

Jesus. We get it. We cant legally stop you from taking pics of high school girls. It sounds like the school administrator should have taken a different approach with you.