But it is the best, most consistent source. By the way, vegans do not eat dairy eitherYou do realize that meat is not the only source of protein and fat, right?
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But it is the best, most consistent source. By the way, vegans do not eat dairy eitherYou do realize that meat is not the only source of protein and fat, right?
And? It's still possible to get it through supplements and vegan versions of said foods.But it is the best, most consistent source. By the way, vegans do not eat dairy either
Actually muscle mas disappears fast.And? It's still possible to get it through supplements and vegan versions of said foods.
I'm not even vegan, but the hate he's gotten for it is stupid. The guy is 6'7" and 300 lbs still. You don't lose the amount of strength people claim he has in a single offseason of going vegan. Muscle doesn't just disappear like that.
For people who don't work out at all.Actually muscle mas disappears fast.
Doyle signed off on it prior to last year, did he not?I feel like the vegan thing was more of an F U to Doyle then anything else.. am I wrong?
I don’t agree either. I thought he lost explosion and strength, seem to get owned quite a bit this year by quicker DL.He was bull-rushed plenty of times the last few years. He's always been somewhat inconsistent (2018 Minnesota is the first game that comes to mind, and then 2019 Michigan). People just like to harp on the vegan thing because it makes for an easy target.
Being a vegan doesn't make you weak. If he ate the proper macros and kept his wright lifting up then he would be just fine. Now, he may not have taken in the proper micronutrients due to not knowing what to do. But to directly say being a vegan (if done correctly) is what caused him to lose strength and power, is not true.I don't agree - he was bull-rushed and "bullied" too many times this past season.
It honestly looked like he'd lost significant strength and power.
And you’re the “kinda folks” that tries to derail a thread on the football forum with politics. Equally moronicLol at people thinking a Vegan diet kept Alaric from getting drafted. Kinda folks that would consider storming the Capitol because they don’t like the election results.
I'm not making the vegan-to-weaker connection. I'm just saying he seemed less powerful for whatever reason.Being a vegan doesn't make you weak. If he ate the proper macros and kept his wright lifting up then he would be just fine. Now, he may not have taken in the proper micronutrients due to not knowing what to do. But to directly say being a vegan (if done correctly) is what caused him to lose strength and power, is not true.
But again, he may not have gotten enough of each macro.
Ahhh gotcha, my bad. Then we are in agreement.I'm not making the vegan-to-weaker connection. I'm just saying he seemed less powerful for whatever reason.
Steroids....LOL I am sure he is using Whey Protein and other powdered/pill supplements, which one would assume Aleric would use as well.What about this guy?
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Vegan diet had nothing to do with going undrafted. His body looked better this year than any other and his play was better this year than last year.
And people can get protein and fat while vegan. It's obviously more difficult but far from some impossible task.JFC it is a biological fact that strength is built from protein and fat, look at what happened to Bill Walton when he went vegan.
You wouldn't say the same about the Big Ten?Jackson never seemed to take football that serious. The Vegan crap is a huge indication of that. The NFL is not a place for players who are not 100% committed to being the best. It is just to competitive. I see about 2 years on a practice squad, then probably assistant manager at McDonalds. Nixon needs to go into camp fired up working harder than the next guy or he may be short lived also.
I don't agree - he was bull-rushed and "bullied" too many times this past season.
It honestly looked like he'd lost significant strength and power.
It's pretty simple. None of the people making the decisions thought he was better than the players they drafted ahead of him.
This is what happened to Bill WaltonJFC it is a biological fact that strength is built from protein and fat, look at what happened to Bill Walton when he went vegan.
Yeah, if you saw my post a few minutes later I clarified I wasn't necessarily bridging going vegan to being weaker - the "I don't agree" part was my opinion that he simply looked like he'd lost some of his punch and power.But how do we know the strength and power loss was exclusively from a vegan diet given that he was coming off injuries that seemed to have resulted from carrying too much weight in his frame?
If anything, he should have switched to veganism years earlier to prevent the injury. Maybe the issue is how he worked out rather than the nutrition specifically. Or, maybe, just maybe, he just doesn't have the body to maintain the strength and athleticism necessary at an NFL level no matter what he does.
There are too many potential contributors to say veganism was a mistake. Plus, if you consider him a human being rather than just an NFL player, veganism may extend his life by a decade if he keeps at it. He wasn't going to live a long time if he didn't make some changes to his lifestyle (he was way overweight his first year) and sometimes that's the biggest benefit of being involved in sports at the collegiate level.
Do you know one of the world's strongest men is a vegan? And there are pro bowl NFL players that are vegan. Come on. Meat isn't the only source of protein and fat.JFC it is a biological fact that strength is built from protein and fat, look at what happened to Bill Walton when he went vegan.
I wonder why that stands out and the information can be found so easily? Perhaps because it is unique? I can't seem to find the list of pro bowlers who eat meat. I did find the list of 10 current and former NFL players who are vegans. I would have thought they could compile a lengthy list of current players, not sure why they didn't.Sounds
Do you know one of the world's strongest men is a vegan? And there are pro bowl NFL players that are vegan. Come on. Meat isn't the only source of protein and fat.
You do know that Veganism is Classist and in many instances a show of White Privilege. Yup. To be a Vegan you have to have extra cash to spend on supplements and vitamins, and live in an area where fresh fruits and vegetables are readily available. Large swaths of Americans live in areas appropriately named food deserts because they don't have access to these types of food items and most are in areas where minorities reside.And? It's still possible to get it through supplements and vegan versions of said foods.
I'm not even vegan, but the hate he's gotten for it is stupid. The guy is 6'7" and 300 lbs still. You don't lose the amount of strength people claim he has in a single offseason of going vegan. Muscle doesn't just disappear like that.
Yeah, if you saw my post a few minutes later I clarified I wasn't necessarily bridging going vegan to being weaker - the "I don't agree" part was my opinion that he simply looked like he'd lost some of his punch and power.
I've never gone vegan, or even vegetarian, so I don't factually know how (or if) it affected Alaric negatively for football.
What i do know though is going vegan makes it more challenging to get some vital nutrients/proteins into and absorbed by the body & muscle. And.. to your point.. maybe AJ was thinking more about his life and less about his football future. I don't know!?
Says something about the evaluation process and feedback kids are getting. Nixon would have done well to come back for another year.I was slightly surprised Alaric didn't get drafted. I was VERY surprised Nixon fell to the 5th round.
Good to see you’re still an asshole knocking a 4 year starter at Iowa. Manager at McDonalds? You’re a real funny guy. Guessing with all your tough talk you’re probably out there making a million a year.Jackson never seemed to take football that serious. The Vegan crap is a huge indication of that. The NFL is not a place for players who are not 100% committed to being the best. It is just to competitive. I see about 2 years on a practice squad, then probably assistant manager at McDonalds. Nixon needs to go into camp fired up working harder than the next guy or he may be short lived also.
Not it isn't. You can get tons of protein from plant based sources.But it is the best, most consistent source. By the way, vegans do not eat dairy either
This is just false.You do know that Veganism is Classist and in many instances a show of White Privilege. Yup. To be a Vegan you have to have extra cash to spend on supplements and vitamins, and live in an area where fresh fruits and vegetables are readily available. Large swaths of Americans live in areas appropriately named food deserts because they don't have access to these types of food items and most are in areas where minorities reside.
Veganism is a syndrome of the wealthy and the white, (or in the case of some college athletes the schools paying for it). Hilarious that in general those promoting it are the same people who rail about White Privilege.
When he talked about it I think he said he wanted to drop a lot of the bad weight he had. he also mentioned he wanted to get faster and quicker so I am guessing dropping the bad weight was part of it. My guess is that he didn't fully invest in adding the muscle to replace the bad weight. This is just speculation but we never heard Jackson's name mentioned when talking about the workout warriors in the Iowa weight room. He did this with the full blessing of the staff so I am sure they told him what he needed to eat to make sure he was getting 1 to 1 replacement but we don't know if he followed it to a tee.Yeah, if you saw my post a few minutes later I clarified I wasn't necessarily bridging going vegan to being weaker - the "I don't agree" part was my opinion that he simply looked like he'd lost some of his punch and power.
I've never gone vegan, or even vegetarian, so I don't factually know how (or if) it affected Alaric negatively for football.
What i do know though is going vegan makes it more challenging to get some vital nutrients/proteins into and absorbed by the body & muscle. And.. to your point.. maybe AJ was thinking more about his life and less about his football future. I don't know!?