Alford to Indiana
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Not that unusual. Coaches (or more specifically, their representatives) have conversations with schools while seasons are still ongoing. If UCLA's AD hasn't been doing his due diligence on who he would want to hire if his current coach left, he's not earning his money.
I'm not saying it's rare. It's just funny that he's doing that now, and also left New Mexico 3 days after agreeing to a 10 year extension. It's Stevie Style.
I hope it's true because he is a terrible coach. He may be able to call some kids to come play there, but almost any coach at IU could, but he just can't coach. I will love him coming back to IC too and sitting behind a table with Tiger Hawks behind him and he explaining why he lost the game.
LOL that is nothing but Gottlieb guessing so if it happens he can say he was first to break the story. This is as true as last week's rumor that Alford was offered 7 years at 31 million. Just guessing. Not saying it won't happen but until it does this story is simply garbage.
I don't believe he is a terrible coach, I was glad to see him leave Iowa but I do believe he will be an upgrade over Crean if he does indeed get the job. He wasn't a good fit at Iowa and he made a huge gaffe in the handling of Pierce, He will be right at home at IU.
I think everyone said this as soon as they learned Crean was creaned.
Only one thing makes me think this could all be smoke and mirrors. Alford's contract extension at Iowa when the rumor was Indiana wanted him.
If he takes the Indiana job, I won't be surprised. If his agent wrangles a major FUBAR contract out of UCLA, I won't be surprised.
I do think there are better coaches for Indiana AND UCLA.
Here's a treat. Steve Alford singing to Bobby Knight about what Stevie did to the AD who fired Knight.
If he takes the Indiana job, I won't be surprised. If his agent wrangles a major FUBAR contract out of UCLA, I won't be surprised.
I do think there are better coaches for Indiana AND UCLA.
Here's a treat. Steve Alford singing to Bobby Knight about what Stevie did to the AD who fired Knight.
fake news?....
... Jesus its 2017...if I was in coma for the last 2 years & woke up...WTF happen?like I posted last week...some guy related to RockChalk Talk on a radio show in Kansas said Alford to Indiana was a done deal. Getting his 5 star Indiana to do a reverse was discussed.
my guess all along was Alford would leave to come home to Indiana.
He may be many things, but he's not a terrible coach. In his coaching career, he took Manchester College to three straight D III NCAA tournaments, and his last year was national runner up. At Missouri State, he went to a Sweet 16. At Iowa, not as much success. Won 2 Big Ten tourney titles, the only such titles in Iowa's history of playing in the BTT. At New Mexico, won 2 conference titles and went to the NCAA tournament 3 of final 4 years. AT UCLA, 3 Sweet 16 appearances in 4 years (still alive this year). 559-278 career record. Not a terrible coach. The results at Iowa are the outlier in his career.
From a national fan/observer perspective, most see Alford as a good/decent coach and just view Iowa as a tough job. That's the reality of it.
All true. But, he's still a prick.
Gottleib most likely doesn't know anything more than any of us but hasn't seen his name mentioned in any headlines for a while so this will grab him a little attention...............Alford is not near as poor of a coach as most our fans would like to think. I think he came to Iowa a little TOO full of himself thinking he WAS a great coach that didn't have to assemble a great staff. His father also had a very good "basketball mind" but was put into a position that was WAY over his head. I think Alford learned ALOT with his Iowa experience and that the jump from mid major to a power 5 was even a bigger step than DIII to mid major. Look, I can't stand the guy but he certainly has the track record to prove he is not a "horrible coach"
I think his heart was in it, just think he was ridiculously inexperienced to take over a Big Ten job and all that comes with it.
Can you provide any examples or anything (for that matter) to back up your claim that his heart wasn't in it when he was here?
Also, you mean to say a guy who lived his whole life and played his entire basketball career in Indiana, outside of the Olympics and a short stint in the NBA, coached like it? That's odd. You act like SA came here and changed the face of the Iowa program to reflect the "Hoosier Way".
Outside of running a similar offense and eventually removing the last names from the jersey, I can't think of a whole lot else that reflected Indiana.
"I just don't think his heart was in it when he was here"
He's just giving his opinion bro. Calm down.
I am calm, calmer than you are.
It's sweet you come to your boy's defense and all, but all I did was ask him to back up his claim. That's not really asking a whole lot is it. Obviously he saw something with SA to make such a ridiculous statement.
Then again, I forgot Alford is fair game and we can say whatever we want about him. My bad.
I dont think he was horrible...Lick was horrible. But 61-67 in 8 years in the B1G regular season isnt homerun...heck if Fran was 6 games under .500 in the B1G..people would be calling for his head.
I do think in 2002 he had a really good team...Evans, Recker, etc ... it shook him to a core when he went 5-11...that was an eye opener...including his own eyes...
'deer in the headlights".
This is the answer, of course. It's why being a sports talking head is the greatest job in the world. You spend the whole time talking about stuff you like. When you make a prediction and it's correct, you have all kinds of air time to brag about it. If you're wrong, you just never talk about it again and everyone forgets.
The thing that really bewilders me, though, is that with such a competitive field of work, how is it that so many douchenozzles make it to the top?
Your right Bob that team had a ton of talent as was evidenced by their B1G tourney run. According to some people I knew close to the program at the time he completely "lost" that team letting a couple upper class men run the team more than he did. He allowed it to happen and snowballed into a mess where like you said all he could do was sit there and watch with an"deer in the headlights" look. Unfortunate Iowa was a "training ground" for him.
Alford seems to always be surrounded by drama. My god I don't miss him or his ego. My dad had a run in with him wanting product and services for free. I hate his is a topic of conversation here on this board. I really don't think if he moves back to Indiana that he will turn them around. Too much risk, he falls on his face he is done for. Ride out this run he is doing at UCLA and try to hang on would be his best bet. my 2 cents
He always wanted everything for free. I know someone that served him at a local restaurant in IC during his final season at Iowa. When they brought him the bill ( it was Alford and about 6 others) he laughed and asked if they knew who he was. They said yes. He proceeded to pay the bill and not leave a single cent for a tip. He was a real nice guy.
I just never felt that Alford felt that this was his destination job. He talked all the time about Indiana and the way things were done there. We were a step up from Missouri St. and Alford is nothing if not ambitious, but I always thought that this job was just a another step in the process for him to eventually get back to Indiana. You don't feel that way, that's your opinion. You're entitled to it just as I am to mine.
Alford failed at Iowa because of 1. he did not surround himself with competent assistants and 2. his arrogance got the best of him.....if he had only dismissed Pierce after his first offense I think he would have been looked at in a different light, but hindsight is something that can't be redone and he has to live with how poorly he handled the situation. If he does come the Indiana you can't blame him for taking the job in a state that he grew up in and played his entire high school and college career in, and in top of that, rumors of Indiana throwing ungodly amount of money at him by the Indiana AD cannot be overlook. If Steve does bolt to Indiana don't blame him, blame Glass who should know better and is only appeasing those Indiana fans who remember the good old days of which are long gone....the landscape of todays college basketball is completely different then it was when Bobby Knight ruled the Assembly Hall court....If indeed Alford goes on to coach at Indiana Fred Glass will find that out....
I think in the very beginning he 'may have' but that changed after a couple of years (for some of the examples given in this thread)....he found out that Iowans really dont give a crap if you think you above everyone else...take us to a Final 4 first.
Heard a lot of stories like Bremmers downtown..apparently Steve thought he was owed free clothes..but that is only what I heard....dont know if it was true or not.
one thing I do know (cause I was in the dept that got the paperwork)..Alford along with Neal tried to get the athletic dept to pay for their Final 4 trip...."after" he quit in 2007...it got rejected real quick.....the guy didnt make peanuts..whats up with that? Pay for your own sh*t like everybody else.
one more thing...I dont care if he goes to Indiana..I dont care how well he does or bad...I dont even care when we play them...shoot at his age (52) if he was ever going to be prepared to be successful at his old school...now is as good of time as ever..
and he does have some good contacts in the state when it comes to recruiting..
well unless there is some miracle in the next minute,,we will find out sooner than later..
I guess we'll know soon. I just now saw Alford being interviewed on Tv and it didn't sound like he was going anywhere anytime soon. Said we are getting ready to open up a new practice facility in about four months and said he was excited for the (think he said #2 and #3 players in next year). Would be a dumb move to go to Indiana where he couldn't begin to get players of that caliber. Of course he does unethical things like the huge extension he signed at New Mexico then a day or two later signed with UCLA.
