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And the retaliation begins. THIS is why whistleblowers should remain anonymous

and Hawkman....you don't believe Robert O'Brien....OUR President's hand picked National Security Advisor......one of the brightest and best? How can you doubt anything OUR President or his appointees might ever say?
I bet you're just another "never Trumper" aren't you? :eek:
 
Define "the right thing"...and in whose eyes, if you don't mind?

He's a LTC in the US Army, here's the right thing...

I ___, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
 
He's a LTC in the US Army, here's the right thing...

I ___, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
I think lots of public servants have taken that oath, or ones very similar...too bad many of them don't honor it.
You know, I bet Comey and Brennan, and Schiff...well, you get my drift.
 
He's a LTC in the US Army, here's the right thing...

I ___, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
Vindman believes deeply in his oath. Trump has no idea what his means.
 
LOL...so you won't define it, then...
Pay attention...you didn't ask me...but I'll ask you. How do you determine that Trump withholding congressionally approved military aid for an ally in order to force a public announcement of bogus investigations in order to bolster Trump's own reelection chances is even remotely "the right thing"? Spell out your warped thinking for us. Like I said, it'll be entertaining and it's a slow afternoon.
 
So, specifically, how does this POTUS pose "a threat to our democracy"? Do you mean he's impeded the leftist march to socialism?
Redirecting military aid to bribe foreign governments into attacking his political opponents and meddle with US elections is an unmistakable threat to our democracy

And just stop with the socialism stuff. Misusing taxpayer funds to coerce Ukraine into investigating Biden is the issue at hand and is an impeachable offense. If Obama had redirected military funds to go after Romney you would have called for Obama to be removed from office. And you would have been right to do so.
 
He's a LTC in the US Army, here's the right thing...

I ___, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
Yep. I took that oath. To this day it defines who I am.
 
So, specifically, how does this POTUS pose "a threat to our democracy"? Do you mean he's impeded the leftist march to socialism?

He lies every time he speaks
He has no respect for the law
He has no respect for a free press
He has no respect for the separation of powers
He puts personal political gain over the country’s interests
He continually tries to undermine the legitimacy of elections and our judiciary

Should I continue?
 
goldmom...my President is who he is....he IS a chronic liar....he is ethically challenged.....he is no paragon of morality or virtue.....he is self-absorbed. That is who he is.
Now, please, you tell me what you see in him....I am very interested. Other than he doesn't like Hilary or Obama.....who is he?
 
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Pay attention...you didn't ask me...but I'll ask you. How do you determine that Trump withholding congressionally approved military aid for an ally in order to force a public announcement of bogus investigations in order to bolster Trump's own reelection chances is even remotely "the right thing"? Spell out your warped thinking for us. Like I said, it'll be entertaining and it's a slow afternoon.
You need to catch up...it turns out that the aid was in fact released to the Ukrainians days before ... and it's reported that it was at Bolton's direction.

All you lefty talkers for the DNC jump on here to rebut anyone who has a different position than you are told to constantly parrot. It never fails. Someone's gotta push back. And when they do the personal attacks start. Increasingly it appears that's about all you have. Has it occurred to you that in order for those personal attacks to work, the target has to care what you think or value what you say?
 
He lies every time he speaks
He has no respect for the law
He has no respect for a free press
He has no respect for the separation of powers
He puts personal political gain over the country’s interests
He continually tries to undermine the legitimacy of elections and our judiciary

Should I continue?
Rocky, Rocky, Rocky...so, you don't see or understand that I could name a democrat leftist or five who fit every line of your "list"???
Jeebus.
 
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goldmom...my President is who he is....he IS a chronic liar....he is ethically challenged.....he is no paragon of morality or virtue.....he is self-absorbed. That is who he is.
Now, please, you tell me what you see in him....I am very interested. Other than he doesn't like Hilary or Obama.....who is he?
He's not a leftist and he kept Hillary out of the Oval Office.
It astounds me that you might actually believe DJT is the very first President who may display those very things you seem to be offended by. I'd call that willful naïveté.
 
He's not a leftist and he kept Hillary out of the Oval Office.
It astounds me that you might actually believe DJT is the very first President who may display those very things you seem to be offended by. I'd call that willful naïveté.
He wears them on his sleeve.......he's crude and honestly mom, he is everything my parents taught me not to be. He is a boring ass....about as intellectually stimulating as a cockroach. Of course, he is a TV star.....of "reality TV" nonetheless.......which is certainly NOTHING to be proud of.
I can't stand the lyin' sumbitch. Honestly. I have never found a President of mine to be complete waste of time that I find Trump. He is a chump.
 
The Democrats have tried to get rid of Trump since
the day he was elected in 2016.

First, there was a big yell for eliminating the Electoral
College, because Hillary won the popular vote.

Second, there was the Special Counsel Robert Mueller
Report which found no evidence of collusion with
Trump and Russia.

Now, the Democrats have reached desperation and are
trying to impeach Trump. They have not found any
credible evidence of a crime committed by Trump in his
dealing with the Ukraine.

Bottom Line: The Democrats have found Trump guilty,
they just cannot find the crime to convict him.
 
The Democrats have tried to get rid of Trump since
the day he was elected in 2016.

First, there was a big yell for eliminating the Electoral
College, because Hillary won the popular vote.

Second, there was the Special Counsel Robert Mueller
Report which found no evidence of collusion with
Trump and Russia.

Now, the Democrats have reached desperation and are
trying to impeach Trump. They have not found any
credible evidence of a crime committed by Trump in his
dealing with the Ukraine.

Bottom Line: The Democrats have found Trump guilty,
they just cannot find the crime to convict him.
Wow Lute.....you really feel this way? Damn....I better start supporting my president then.....'Cause I know you are telling the truth here.....and nothing but the truth. BTW.....Mueller did NOT conclude what you said he did.....there seems to be a lot of folks who think that my President might have crossed the line with this Ukraine stuff........
Our President has seemed to be a little less than forthcoming.
 
You need to catch up...it turns out that the aid was in fact released to the Ukrainians days before ... and it's reported that it was at Bolton's direction.

The aid was released in September after the House started making a fuss about the whistleblower. If it had been improperly withheld to that point, why wouldn’t you want Vindman and the others to testify to that?
 
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