Angie's List

[TJ8869]

My sense of things is that CEO Bill Oesterle is merely using this whole RFRA debate as a way to save face while bailing out of his proposed expansion in Indianapolis. The company has never turned a profit and its stock price has been plummeting for the past year. They have repeatedly been forced to slash membership prices in order to compete with free online review services like Yelp and Google. The integrity of the site has been questioned because much of their advertising revenue comes from the very same companies that are being reviewed.

They have an unsustainable business model and probably realize the Indianapolis expansion is a bad idea, so they are latching on to this controversy and using it as their exit strategy.

 

[Wahawk56]

Wasn't this covered in the three page thread already?

 

[TJ8869]

Originally posted by Wahawk56:
Wasn't this covered in the three page thread already?

Maybe. There's so much going on in that thread that it's hard to keep track. I just figured it bears repeating since several major companies, including Eli Lilly and Salesforce, supported yesterday's "fix" to the law, but Angie's List doubled down on their defiance instead.

 

[mstp1992]

"Fix" does belong in quotes because it only has any bearing in communities that already have such protection in place for LGBTs.

It wouldn't surprise me if Angie's List is being defiant because of their current fiscal situation. I frankly never understood their appeal.

 

[TJ8869]

Originally posted by mstp1992:
"Fix" does belong in quotes because it only has any bearing in communities that already have such protection in place for LGBTs.

In the communities where it will be legal to discriminate against LGBTs in housing and employment, was it not already legal to discriminate against them? Did the new law make it legal or was it already legal? I agree with you that it's deplorable to discriminate in housing or employment based on sexual orientation, but if it was already legal to do it even before the law then people should redirect their vitriol against the new law to the long-standing lack of protection.

 

[mstp1992]

Yep, the new law didn't really change anything other than it codified the local ordinances. I think it brought to light that these types of discriminatory actions are NOT against the law all across the nation; many assume it is illegal. Most of the other states with RFRAs also have some sort of exception to LGBTs and/or were not nearly as expansive as Indiana in defining 'organization.'

 

[fredjr82]

The CEO of SalesForce is helping his employees move out of Indiana if they wish. I'm sure you'll find a way to spin this one as well.

Link

 

[TJ8869]

Originally posted by fredjr82:
The CEO of SalesForce is helping his employees move out of Indiana if they wish. I'm sure you'll find a way to spin this one as well.

No spin necessary, Fred. I'll simply reply to your post by quoting Marc Benioff, the CEO of Salesforce:

"The new Indiana legislation is an important 1st step. The damage has been fixed, and a door is open to the future"

Both Salesforce and Eli Lilly applauded the fix. Angie's List doubled down on their criticism. Hell, even George Takei was excited about the fix. Angie's List is just looking for a smokescreen to cover their retreat from the Indiana expansion.

 

[mstp1992]

Originally posted by TJ8869:

Originally posted by fredjr82:
The CEO of SalesForce is helping his employees move out of Indiana if they wish. I'm sure you'll find a way to spin this one as well.

No spin necessary, Fred. I'll simply reply to your post by quoting Marc Benioff, the CEO of Salesforce:

"The new Indiana legislation is an important 1st step. The damage has been fixed, and a door is open to the future"

Both Salesforce and Eli Lilly applauded the fix. Angie's List doubled down on their criticism. Hell, even George Takei was excited about the fix. Angie's List is just looking for a smokescreen to cover their retreat from the Indiana expansion.

Can you see George Takei in any part of Indiana other than Indianapolis?

 

[TJ8869]

Originally posted by mstp1992:
Can you see George Takei in any part of Indiana other than Indianapolis?

Nope. Frankly, I'm still surprised he came to Cincinnati to be the Grand Marshal of Oktoberfest and lead the World's Largest Chicken Dance.

For those who missed it, here's his response last night to the updated law:

We did it! I commend Indiana, especially the good Hoosiers who stood up to, and against, discrimination. Today, the state senate leadership, in close consultation with Indiana business leaders, fashioned a "fix" to the Religious Freedom and Restoration Act. The amendment states specifically that the law does NOT authorize anyone to refuse to provide services, facilities, public accommodations, goods, employment, or housing to anyone on the basis of certain characteristics, including sexual orientation and gender identity. While this is not the comprehensive anti-discrimination bill many want, it remains historic because it is the first time in Indiana state history that sexual orientation and gender identity appear within the context of a law concerning non-discrimination in that state. I am confident that Indiana ultimately will join many other states to specifically protect LGBTs from discrimination, and I call upon the Indiana legislature to take that next important step.

Governor Pence just signed the new law. I am very happy to replace ‪#‎BoycottIndiana‬ with ‪#‎IndianaForAll‬, with the hope that Hoosier hospitality once again can flourish. This has been a difficult and soul-searching week for many on both sides. But from here we move forward, together, towards an inclusive society where religious beliefs and individual civil rights can exist in harmony, side by side. This is a great day for Indiana, and for the entire nation.

Thank you, fans, for responding to my call along with the calls of many business and civic leaders who stood firm against discrimination. Together we can, and did, make a difference.

 

[joelbc1]

When one tries to politicize religion, religion is the loser. The GOP moved to evangelicals in 1980. They won the election. The GOP has continued to sell its soul since that day.
Any religion that adopts politics is no religion any way. Religion is religion and politics is politics. And never should the two join hands. When they do....they BOTH lose.
Politics and religion in the West has lost its way over the past 40 years.

 

[aflachawk]

Originally posted by fredjr82:
The CEO of SalesForce is helping his employees move out of Indiana if they wish.  I'm sure you'll find a way to spin this one as well.

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[IMCC965]

Originally posted by joelbc1:
When one tries to politicize religion, religion is the loser. The GOP moved to evangelicals in 1980. They won the election. The GOP has continued to sell its soul since that day.
Any religion that adopts politics is no religion any way. Religion is religion and politics is politics. And never should the two join hands. When they do....they BOTH lose.
Politics and religion in the West has lost its way over the past 40 years.

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