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Another angle of the infamous Technical

Shortly after this T on CC, there was a call that went against LSU. LSU's Morris, instead of giving the ball to the ref, as the ref explained is the expectation to avoid delay of game, put it on the floor, not close to any ref.
 
Shortly after this T on CC, there was a call that went against LSU. LSU's Morris, instead of giving the ball to the ref, as the ref explained is the expectation to avoid delay of game, put it on the floor, not close to any ref.
Imagine that.
 
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Not Delay of Game…
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Shortly after this T on CC, there was a call that went against LSU. LSU's Morris, instead of giving the ball to the ref, as the ref explained is the expectation to avoid delay of game, put it on the floor, not close to any ref.
That was a smart move, I thought at the time. Neither I, nor anybody else watching the game, understood that the technical on CC was allegedly delaying the game. I didn't think she had thrown the ball hard enough to warrant a T, so I suspected she had also said something.

Knowing what we know now, I think it is another black mark against the officials that they didn't T up Morris.
 
That was a smart move, I thought at the time. Neither I, nor anybody else watching the game, understood that the technical on CC was allegedly delaying the game. I didn't think she had thrown the ball hard enough to warrant a T, so I suspected she had also said something.

Knowing what we know now, I think it is another black mark against the officials that they didn't T up Morris.
Or T up Mulkey who literally grabbed the official on the court as she was trying to run by her.
 
Or T up Mulkey who literally grabbed the official on the court as she was trying to run by her.
Yes, that was unforgivable. But I've seen worse. A game at Kansas when Roy grabbed the official by the front of his shirt and was hollering for a call against Oklahoma. The official was one of the best in the league, but he just looked surprised and didn't call anything. It was late in a close game, too.
 
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Clock was stopped, how can that be a delay of game. I'm surprised the ref that called it could have seen clearly through 8 or 10 players together? I thought maybe they would warn Mulkey to get off the floor, but I guess not, because she spent more time on the floor than Monica or McKenna on Sunday.
 
Take great joy in reconizing that the woke community was all giddy happy that it was an all female (whatever that means in their demented little minds) officiating crew. The all determining factor was gender and not ability.
 
He or she is referencing that the NCAA made a big deal about pointing out during Friday nights games that the officials for all three games would be all women for the first time ever.
They obviously didn’t find the 3 most competent ones for the final game
 
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He or she is referencing that the NCAA made a big deal about pointing out during Friday nights games that the officials for all three games would be all women for the first time ever.
They obviously didn’t find the 3 most competent ones for the final game
Well don't blame those of us who are woke with picking those 3 incompetent females. I think for a women's game it makes sense to have female refs. But they could have easily found 3 good ones.
 
Well don't blame those of us who are woke with picking those 3 incompetent females. I think for a women's game it makes sense to have female refs. But they could have easily found 3 good ones.
Seriously not trying to pick a fight, but if it makes sense to have women officials for women's games, does it then make sense to not have women refs for NFL or college football games?
 
Seriously not trying to pick a fight, but if it makes sense to have women officials for women's games, does it then make sense to not have women refs for NFL or college football games?
Great question, and I get it. It does seem a bit strange to me to have someone who's never played the game of football officiating it. But if they are better than any males applying for the job, I'm fine with it. But that's a big IF. I certainly hope they are because we all know how frustrating poor officiating can be.

I'm a male and was around women's college sports (and men's) for decades as both a coach and official. It seemed strange to me that so many of the women's teams' coaches were males and the officials were males. My guess is that many of the ADs doing the hiring were males, and they thought that men were better coaches. Or that many women just didn't think they could coach or officiate as well as men (there is some of that for sure, based on conversations I've had with some female athletes and former athletes). Or a combination. Not sure.

I do believe that if females and males apply for the same women's coaching job, and a male is clearly the best choice, the AD should hire the male. But if it's a toss-up, the AD should go with the female. And vice versa.

In the end, I think we all want competence, regardless of gender. But taking into account that women had been denied opportunities for so long that we need to sometimes create opportunities for them as long as they're competent.

Complex issue IMO.
 
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No it's not,.. Championship game deserves the best officials available,.. period.
Well, I was referring to the overall conversation about providing/creating opportunities for women. If never given opportunities, how can/could they ever prove they could do the job. I have no idea about the prior performance of the 3 who were chosen. Maybe they were really good and just had a shitty day all at once. Or maybe they were counseled or prepped poorly by the NCAA, supervisor of officials, or someone else above them prior to the game and it messed with their usual performance.
 
The lead officials response for the technical was that this was a delay of game penalty. The ball is literally 5’ from the huddle and ON THE COURT BEFORE the official gives the technical.

How many countless times throughput a season do you see a player shoot a three or a jump shot despite the whistle being clearly blown before the shot? Is that not delay of game?
 
Great question, and I get it. It does seem a bit strange to me to have someone who's never played the game of football officiating it. But if they are better than any males applying for the job, I'm fine with it. But that's a big IF. I certainly hope they are because we all know how frustrating poor officiating can be.

I'm a male and was around women's college sports (and men's) for decades as both a coach and official. It seemed strange to me that so many of the women's teams' coaches were males and the officials were males. My guess is that many of the ADs doing the hiring were males, and they thought that men were better coaches. Or that many women just didn't think they could coach or officiate as well as men (there is some of that for sure, based on conversations I've had with some female athletes and former athletes). Or a combination. Not sure.

I do believe that if females and males apply for the same women's coaching job, and a male is clearly the best choice, the AD should hire the male. But if it's a toss-up, the AD should go with the female. And vice versa.

In the end, I think we all want competence, regardless of gender. But taking into account that women had been denied opportunities for so long that we need to sometimes create opportunities for them as long as they're competent.

Complex issue IMO.

This.
Kinda like the commentary surrounding that Delta (or might've been United, but one of the big airlines) announced not long ago that they were lowering their standards for pilot qualifications to enable more minority hiring. Umm, I'm guessing nobody really cares what color/gender/background the pilot is--give us the best available.
Should be that way everywhere, or where does the line get drawn that says these jobs are more important so they need the best regardless, but these aren't so hire diversity?

Thanks for the reasoned reply, BTW.
 
Well, I was referring to the overall conversation about providing/creating opportunities for women. If never given opportunities, how can/could they ever prove they could do the job.

They had the entire season to prove their worth,.. Based on this performance I'd say that it's highly doubtful that these were the best officials available...
 
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He or she is referencing that the NCAA made a big deal about pointing out during Friday nights games that the officials for all three games would be all women for the first time ever.
They obviously didn’t find the 3 most competent ones for the final game
Sad that you had to futher explain it for me. I thought my statement was very clear and plain. Thanks.
 
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