ANTIFA is a threat to this nation!
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You do realize you're denigrating a group who's mission is to challenge white supremacy and other such groups, right? And not denigrating white supremacy and other such groups, right? And you know that is a pretty clear indication of where your support lies, right?
I hope you don't know these things and are just spouting off mindlessly.
Whole mission is to challenge white supremacy? Are you kidding. Did you miss the part where they were burning down minority owned business, assaulting minority police? 2 of their main goals is to restore voting rights for felons and legalize pot. Yep, that’s sure challenging white supremacy! Get your head out of your ass.
And this is where you demonstrate you are a sheep being led by Fox. Your post is entirely fiction.
So why do the denigrate black people who happen to be cops or God forbid conservative? They use their beliefs as a false guise so people like you will look the other way.
Well it kinda hurt that America first came up opposing entry into WW2 which we pretty much discovered through our own pain that it was not a war that we were realistically going to be able to avoid. So it kind of lost moral authority to speak on the issue.
Also Charles Lindbergh made anti-semitic comments and the America First committee had a paid German agent working within it. The pilot Laura Ingalls.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Ingalls_(aviator)
Edit: Oh also I found out this little tidbit which goes to show how much projection this America first group has always engaged in.
Their opposition was the Committeee to Defend America by Aiding the Allies (CDAAA).
On occasion, the CDAAA was accused of being a British front by its rivals. After the release of the “Stop Hitler Now” advertisement, Democratic West Virginia senator Rush Holt claimed that its funding was sourced from industrialists, international lawyers, international bankers and directors of corporations in Britain. This painted the committee as a tool of big business and, thus, drove the CDAAA to provide the Department of State with details of those who had contributed financially to the advertisement’s publication and reprinting. This ensured that the “Stop Hitler Now” piece had been funded by “100% American sources.” [17]
So when the CDAAA puts out an advertisement that says we need to stop Hitler, the America First crowd says that British Big business is funding it. So the CDAAA opens the books and shows all their contributions are 100% American. While at the same time the America First committee has a paid German agent giving Nazi salutes and praising Hitler in speeches all over the country.
Also the America first group was notably anti-semitic while the CDAAA specifically targeted minority groups to join their cause and pushed for anti-discriminiatory laws.
America first - Always on the wrong side of history.
Shouldn't have trusted them then, shouldn't be trusting them now. No one should ever trust them again.
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The whole post. How difficult is that? Every statement he made was false, untrue, fiction.
You asked. I showed you the answer. Everything you said was false. Fed to you by right wing outlets and gobbled up by your willfully ignorant mouth.
So minority businesses were looted and burned down by conservatives? Numerous videos showing antifa calling black police officers the n word and black judas..they aren't true?
Is the world divided between conservatives and ANTIFA? If your definition is "anyone who isn't conservative" you would have a point.
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You're simply wrong. It's a shame that you continue to ignore the problems the far right is producing and instead focus on groups that are trying to counter that abomination. It's very similar to those who denigrated Malcolm X and the Black Panthers in the 60s - focus on the resistance to racism rather than racism itself.
Again, if ANTIFA is "anyone who is not a conservative" then you are correct. ANTIFA has done all of those things.
But, of course, that premise is beyond absurd. It just happens to be the one some of you guys seem to be operating under.
And speaking of ignoring problems, you seem to have no problem with the left burning looting and beating people.
Those same groups (antifa) is an inherent racist organization, BLM has taken the far left stance of Marxism and anti semitism. Is that what we should support?
No antifa is the group protesting, looting, and burning stuff. They wave their flags, it’s pretty obvious to anyone who isn’t a partisan moron who’s doing it.
lets take out the anyone is not conservative and look at Antifa especially in Minneapolis, did they not burn down buildings and call black cops the n word?
???? If someone is ignoring or supporting supremacy groups or other of the ilk they deserve to be denigrated and called out. Protesting against police brutality and calling for reform includes all police.
Again, I don't agree with the Antifa's tactics or those who take extreme measures/violence in their protests. I do, however, understand their underlying motivation and it is far, far more noble than those of the far right.
Perhaps if we had more people admonishing white supremacy and other oppressive groups/actions the efforts of the Antifa and violence would cease. At this point, it seems to be the only thing getting attention on the matters at hand.
Well, we could've avoided it, but, were balls deep involved in it. Starting with Rockefeller's PR man, Ivy Lee, coaching up Hitler and his oratory skills. All the way to the Luftwaffe not being able to get off the ground without Standard Oil's patented jet fuel.Well it kinda hurt that America first came up opposing entry into WW2 which we pretty much discovered through our own pain that it was not a war that we were realistically going to be able to avoid. So it kind of lost moral authority to speak on the issue.
Also Charles Lindbergh made anti-semitic comments and the America First committee had a paid German agent working within it. The pilot Laura Ingalls.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Ingalls_(aviator)
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/WallStreetCommieRevolution.pdf
https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_Hitler.pdf
Lindbergh was smeared to damage the movement as he was a hero and also made enemies with powerful bankers by ripping the privately owned cartel, The Federal Reserve.
So a black police officer who is doing his job deserves to be called a n*(*er? Who exactly is the racist group again?
Link to "numerous videos showing antifa..." where we don't have to take your (or FOX's or talk radio's) word for them being antifa?
Yeah, I didn't think so.
Not, that I am aware of, no. You realize those protests were BLM, correct? And most of the looting, etc. was done by random thugs and lowlifes who saw an opportunity in the chaos to grab a big-screen tv.
Every legitimate news source that I've read indicates police did not mention an ANTIFA presence.
Good criticism. But notice his response. It's on him to prove violence and looting by actual Antifa members.
Which - as I've said before, is not to claim that all Antifa sympathizers are saints - just that the burden of proof is on these cons to show that they aren't lying through their teeth, or mindlessly regurgitating the lies of others.
Actually, if Antifa is anyone, then it's true. We know members of far right groups like the Boogaloo Boys were involved in violence to create negative impressions of the protests within conservative ranks.
Fact is, the violence within the protests is bad, really bad. It's terrible that it has happened and should be stopped. But it pales in comparison to white supremacy, racism, police brutality and other oppressive components of our culture that have been ignored for far too long. Focus on this biggest issue - spend energies there to make real progress. That is the best, and probably only, way to stop the protests.
A big problem the left has is that it always attempts to start these "leaderless movements" and BLM is an example of that. The Wall-street protests were a textbook case study in this.
The problem is that leaderless movements often cant even come up with a consistent set of demands. The other is that with no leader to tell people what they should and should not be doing anything that goes wrong in the area were your group is protesting can be tied back to your group a lot more easy.
If you have actual protest leaders up there with megaphones trying to keep everyone in line and focused, and some people decide to take the time to trash the city, it's easier to say . . . no no our group was here with our leaders doing this. Not breaking shit.
But when you have no leaders, you have no flag to rally around. Everyone just goes and does what they want. You can have 10,000 peaceful protesters but 5 can ruin it for the group.
This CHOP zone is the same way. No leaders.
The left needs to drop this ridiculously flawed system of leading their movements.
I have a big problem with that. I simply understand that the root of the problem lies with racism, oppression and the like. The fact that you refuse to call out those far right groups and actions makes you complicit with them and with too many like you it results in the protests we're seeing.
I'll ask you - which do you think deserves protest.
A) a group who's mission is to combat fascists and racists such as neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other far-right extremists.
or
B) groups supporting white supremacy, Nazism and/or other racist/oppressive ideology.
I know you won't answer, but food for thought.
How can "the left" stop doing something that is, by definition, leaderless and not under anyone's control?
Well they are becoming more organized, they have a Twitter page, a website, and a flag
These are valid criticisms that are sometimes raised by members of those groups themselves.
But that's the risk you run when you genuinely believe in democracy and freedom.
Sadly, it's why the fascist alternatives often win. It's the very rare MLK or Gandhi or Jesus that survives long enough to be remembered, much less win.
Lol. Find a scum bag bad actor and use that to paint your impression of the whole BLM movement. It's amazingly myopic.
I would have no problem with the police arresting this guy.
