Antifa is as bad as the tiki torchers/proud boys.
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I’ve never made such a claim. Just calling out your bullshit lies about the “non-existence” of Antifa.
That’s not possible. Keep looking. If you’re lost, show your work and I’ll correct and guide you.
I've got good numbers now, or rather the fact that there are none. It turns out that nobody really knows what the numbers are. So you're either mistaken or lying.
He said, "You had very fine people, on both sides." But you pinkos took it out of context, something everybody knows.
That says the same thing. I don't consider 'racists' and 'white nationalists' either "good people" or "fine people". They are scumbags.
No they are not the same thing. All sides implies that all view points had representatives who were very fine. He said both. He did not say all people were very fine. Keep on defending that losing position though, please. Whether you know it or not, you and your cronies are electing him again in 2020.
Kewl. You think "racists" have "fine viewpoints".
Then, you get all pissypants when people call you a "racist", because you claim you're not a racist.
It all makes perfect sense.....
"I'm not a white nationalist. I just think that white nationalists make some very fine points about brown people not being welcome in 'Merica, and they should go back home to their own brown countries."
There you go again...making shit up. Do you ever post anything remotely truthful? Why aren’t you posting what he said to help your point if it’s really what he said? Because it shows how wrong you are.
He called the Nazis and white supremacists and Antifa bad people. And he also said that there were people who had nothing to do with either of those groups. And within both of those groups there are some fine people.
Now, you can argue about whether or not those people are fine people. That’s fine. But what you can’t say is that he claimed that white supremacists are fine people. He separated those out, put them down and addressed the other groups who were there for and against the statue removal.
This lie is on the same level of the “You didn’t build that” nonsense cons tried to pin on Obama.
Here’s context:
" I will tell you something. I watched those very closely -- much more closely than you people watched it. And you have -- you had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent...
...Those people -- all of those people – excuse me, I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue of Robert E. Lee...
...What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
...Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
Of course there isn’t an exact number, but you found a range right? And that range is in the millions just as I said. And you found several alt right members of Trump’s admiration too. So you know I’m right there as well. I’m ready for your apology.
Actually no, your "facts" don't correspond with reality in even the most remote way. You should probably better educate yourself. You seem to have spent too much time on pandering and moral superiority to bother with things like truth and honesty.
He said there were "fine people on all sides".
There were peaceful counterdemonstrators who were "fine people". The Nazis, white supremacists and Antifa are not "fine people".
As has already been noted: when the GEO Group demonstration was overtaken by radicals, the "liberals" called off their march.
When the Nazis/white supremacists showed up with tiki torches, regular Republicans thought "Hey, these guys think just like me - LET'S MARCH WITH THEM!!!"
There is a fundamental reason for this discrepancy-Antifa vermin DON'T WORK. The "alt right" or whatever handle you want to give them do, for the most part. Someone on a police force or in the military is employed. What percentage of your antifa heroes would you estimate have a full-time job?
I am still waiting for the lefties to explain to me who the big polynesian guy in the Proud Boys is racist toward.
Funfact: Neonazis and racists wear MAGA hats and show up at Trump rallies all.the.time.
I've never, ever seen an Antifa wearing a Clinton hat, or show up at a Clinton rally.
Can anyone point to Antifa's infiltrating the rallies of any Dem candidate, or wearing one of their hats? TIA
I've never, ever seen an Antifa wearing a Clinton hat, or show up at a Clinton rally.
Can anyone point to Antifa's infiltrating the rallies of any Dem candidate, or wearing one of their hats? TIA
No, you won't because they are anarchists. Their goal is to bring down any form of authority. They are not opposed to fascism; they are opposed to order. They want to be allowed to do whatever they want and more importantly, reject the right of anyone to tell them they must do something or can't do something. In short, like a large number of anarchists on this very board.
Huh...right around when Reagan Republicans mostly died off.
How coincidental....
I agree. Completely coincidental.
I don’t think the advent of the term was particularly ground breaking. They were the same as they always were.
Who was the dude that shot up the congressional baseball game? Was he wearing a hat?
Lol. First, I never defended what he said. I'm only clarifying that he didn't say what you say he did. And you're the one being the pissypants because I'm calling you out for being the giant, lying POS that you are.Kewl. You think "racists" have "fine viewpoints".
Then, you get all pissypants when people call you a "racist", because you claim you're not a racist.
It all makes perfect sense.....
Seriously why do you think so little of yourself that you refuse to simply go look? Do you need everything spoon fed to you? This is damn embarrassing. You only had the original alt right strategist Bannon and now Miller. Go look up what you support. Stop being so lazy.
That is what I’d thought you say. Bannon did not identify as alt right that I’m aware of. To clarify. He most definitely enabled the alt right. My impression he was trying to co-opt it and turn it into something else. His ridiculous populist vision. He was most definitely a bad actor and it is a stain on trump.
Also, I didn’t vote for trump. I am anti democrat/communist not pro trump.
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Exactly. And "Dems are socialists", which is the absolute opposite of "anarchy".
You guys cannot keep your talking points straight.
Nope. No Antifa there.
But the guy who ran down a bunch of peaceful demonstrators in Charlottesville WAS a neo-Nazi, and just got sentenced to a 2nd life term.
Lol, you're delusional. Not a great combination to go along with being a lying POS.
When racists call me names, I view that as a badge of honor.
Jesus still loves you; He just agrees that your racist views don't fit his Gospel.
I never claimed Antifa was aligned with the Democratic Party. And Marx's vision of communism was essentially anarchy.
Stop relying on your memory. Go google Bannon and the alt right. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Then google alt right poll numbers and you will see their numbers are in the millions in multiple studies. It shouldn’t be this hard for you to accept reality.
Lies from a poster naming himself after a John Birch Society luminary.
What a shock.
https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-demography-of-the-alt-right
That sounds terrible. (6 percent) agree with elements associated with alt right. Except those elements are core to identity politics in general. A point i made earlier. I’d wager a lot more than 6 percent of democrats would answer similarly with appropriately worded questions.
It’s a problem with the logic string generally.
Ergo. So does Antifa and black lives matter and la raza, etc
That sounds terrible. (6 percent) agree with elements associated with alt right. Except those elements are core to identity politics in general. A point i made earlier. I’d wager a lot more than 6 percent of democrats would answer similarly with appropriately worded questions.
It’s a problem with the logic string generally.
Ergo. So does Antifa and black lives matter and la raza, etc
No, but he probably thinks most people with Nazi flags or KKK robes in their closet voted for Trump.
Do you disagree?
