Any Chance Moss Comes Back?
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I would welcome him back but I think that ship has sailed
There is always a chance. Not sure how great the chances are for either side. But we all know this - the NCAA is a guard driven tournament. And We have only THREE guards!!!
Neither of our guards is a proven B1G starter. Not Joe T, not CJ and not Connor.
If we could get Bakari and keep Moss, that would be huge. No question. I would take both in a heartbeat.
Neither of our guards is a proven B1G starter. Not Joe T, not CJ and not Connor.
If we could get Bakari and keep Moss, that would be huge. No question. I would take both in a heartbeat.
Would be interesting how chemistry/relationships would be affected if he were to return.
Hope he ends up somewhere that makes him happy, sounds like he’s a good kid.
Hope he ends up somewhere that makes him happy, sounds like he’s a good kid.
I think it would be plenty awkward for everyone concerned. The other factor is how would it make Fran look if he took him back? Could make him look like a compassionate players' coach...or desperate...depending one one's interpretation.
I would imagine that the way for Moss to return would be through being recruited back by his (now) former teammates. If they say hey come back let’s do this mission then maybe it’s possible.
Guys on the team now would seem to be the gatekeeper. Players go where they see an opportunity and feel wanted. If current guys want him and let him know this in no uncertain terms, bygones bygones and all that, maybe it could happen.
Has a situation like this ever resulted in a player returning to the school they just left?
Guys on the team now would seem to be the gatekeeper. Players go where they see an opportunity and feel wanted. If current guys want him and let him know this in no uncertain terms, bygones bygones and all that, maybe it could happen.
Has a situation like this ever resulted in a player returning to the school they just left?
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Thank you for another thread. The three covering this topic already weren't enough.
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I know someone who left an executive position with a well-known company because he felt unappreciated and took a job with a start-up that seemed exciting. Well, the start-up had all kinds of issues and, after six months, the guy had had it, so he asked about returning to his former position. The CEO welcomed him with open arms, said the company really missed his expertise, and that going forward he would be better compensated and enjoy more perks than before. He's been back a couple of years now and things are going well. Both sides found out what life was like without the other and realized they were better together.
So the point is, why not? If Moss would like to return, and if Iowa realizes he's needed, it could happen, and if it did it might be best for both parties. That's why it seldom, if ever, makes sense to burn bridges.
It's like in baseball: Sometimes the best trades you make are the ones you don't.
So the point is, why not? If Moss would like to return, and if Iowa realizes he's needed, it could happen, and if it did it might be best for both parties. That's why it seldom, if ever, makes sense to burn bridges.
It's like in baseball: Sometimes the best trades you make are the ones you don't.
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Seems unlikely.
I agree that people can sometimes go back to a job, or even a spouse, that they thought they were finished with. But that's usually after a period of being involved with something else. Moss doesn't have a chance to find out whether or not another option was better, then come back. He's only got one season of eligibility left.
I agree that people can sometimes go back to a job, or even a spouse, that they thought they were finished with. But that's usually after a period of being involved with something else. Moss doesn't have a chance to find out whether or not another option was better, then come back. He's only got one season of eligibility left.
It has for the Iowa football team. I cannot remember the defensive lineman(Nixon?) that put his name in the portal this, but returned. All seems to be good there.
I can think of one somewhat parallel case. Many years ago, Georgia Tech coach Bobby Cremins left for his alma mater (South Carolina). Three days later, he decided to return to Georgia Tech. Everyone at Tech was glad to have him back. Would coaches and players at Iowa welcome back Moss?
I don’t think Fran taking back a player that never left, aside from verbally, would look desperate. It would look like a coach believing in his guys.
Having said that I don’t see him coming back. It comes across like he wants to leave no matter where he goes.
I read all the time on here how this RS freshman from Kentucky is going to start without a doubt and set the world on fire.
I also remember similar sentiments about a couple kids by the names of Fleming and Oglesthree.
Perhaps we should pump the brakes a bit on these expectations for players who have not played a single minute of college basketball yet?
I will second that! Pump the brakes people... CJ may not perform under the lights. Or maybe he will... Joe T may shine. Or not. Connor may never find his shot. And so on...
I'm excited for next season. But a tampering of high expectations on these guys needs to be had.
I don't think the lights are going to be an issue for CJ. he played in their state championship game and dominated.
not the bright lights of the B1G you may say? well, maybe not, but it was the biggest stage of his career and he shined. brightly.
i'm not betting against him and am expecting good things.
I'm currently in my last 2 weeks of new employer. Going back to former employer who is welcoming me back. They are reinstating me as if I never left with a increase in salary. Was at new company about 6 months before deciding. Grass isn't always greener even with more money involved.
I certainly hope you are correct. However, this fanbase will go nuts if he underachieves. Just the nature of us being us...
Plus he's been around the program and on the bench for a year. He knows how things work.
As a general rule, it's realistic to expect that players have an adjustment period to the college game, regardless of what they did or didn't do in high school. Even Wieskamp had a stretch of games where he struggled last year, and he was one of the most consistent freshman in recent years at Iowa.
I don't think it's realistic to expect Frederick to be really good to great right away. It's just not fair to new players. If Iowa is going to be good this year, he will have to be ready to play and contribute. Hopefully he has a great year.
No doubt the Iowa fan base is one of the worst. JoBo hits game winner he’s the best PG in school history, Conner wins games he’s a coaches son..... they struggle .... they get killed.
We're in the same place, man. I went to a smaller start-up type opp...for a little longer period...going back to an established firm in my industry in 2 weeks. Good luck!
I remain skeptical until I see enough on court in game action at this level to evaluate.
But that's just not everyone's way of thinking.
Unwarranted exuberance and doom and gloomers are well represented here as well.
ISU could play him 3 times next year, and it was retweeted into my feed by Keith Murphy. Should I apologize?
If fans want to be exuberant and overly optimistic, that's cool with me.
My problem is with fans who pump a kid up before he's played a single game then come on here and rag on him when he fails to meet their expectations.
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Doesn't really change any of my expectations. They would be good without him, they would be good with him, I do think he'll help him though. I honestly don't think ISU will beat them next year with or without him. Definitely not if they get Wilson.
He's probably not as good as Svi, but he could be a similar player for them in a similar role.
KU needed experienced guard and 3pt shooting so they can play DeSousa and Azubuike together so this helps. If Dotson, Moss, Agbaji can knock down 3s, they will be extremely hard to guard because of their size inside that teams aren't going to be able to match.
Hold it, I thought Iowa only had mid major players?? How is Moss transferring to Kansas?
The other Moss post contains some rumors that Isaiah has not actually graduated. If he does not graduate before the start of the 2019 fall semester enrolling at Iowa is his only option for NCAA eligibility.
Rethought that conclusion. In theory Iowa could waive the RS year I think, although that doesn't really seem likely given the bind Isaiah's decision created for Iowa.
Rule update. I did a search of the NCAA bylaws on waivers. Iowa might not be able to waive the final year transfer. If not Isaiah doesn't meet any requirements for a waiver with the NCAA per Bylaw 14.7.2. Iowa would be his only option if he does not have a degree.
Of course I'm assuming Isaiah has his degree and has completed his obligation to Iowa. Goodbye Isaiah and hello Bakari.
Rethought that conclusion. In theory Iowa could waive the RS year I think, although that doesn't really seem likely given the bind Isaiah's decision created for Iowa.
Rule update. I did a search of the NCAA bylaws on waivers. Iowa might not be able to waive the final year transfer. If not Isaiah doesn't meet any requirements for a waiver with the NCAA per Bylaw 14.7.2. Iowa would be his only option if he does not have a degree.
Of course I'm assuming Isaiah has his degree and has completed his obligation to Iowa. Goodbye Isaiah and hello Bakari.
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