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Anyone else sick of the kids and their gun law crap?

Maybe I am a Boston Celtic's fan. Please, make another assumption. Also, pretty sure there was no fascist dictator in Ireland.

There's no way you know anything about the NBA. I've read your stupid opinions on this board, & I don't see a chance you're watching ball. I'll spare you the embarrassment of asking who Daniel Theis is & why that hurts Boston's chances in the playoffs.
 
Many of these kids were in schools that were shot up. How many school shootings have you been part of?

If none, shut the fu*k up about this.

You speak very plain. If these kids wanted to take every gun from every single person in the country that is ok because they saw somebody get shot?

If somebody’s mother died from crack cocaine is it fine with you if her kids wanted the death penalty for all drug dealers? After all they saw their mother die from drugs.

What you say didn’t mean anything. At the end of the day the emotion will need to be taken out of the arguement and a real discussion will need to happen.
 
What the fvck are you talking about?



They're trying to start a goddamn dialogue because, frankly, the adults haven't done anything for them.

Just like any group that has concerns and is sick and tired of seeing little if anything changed. They are tired of it and are letting people know it.

From 1990 to 1999 there were 62 shootings on school property resulting in 89 deaths.

2000-2009: 63 shootings 105 deaths.

2010 - present: 146 shootings 161 deaths.

There's a trend and it's not for the better. If the adults aren't capable of making some changes, then perhaps the youth can.

I for one welcome their opinions and call to action.[/QUOT



There are 4,000 deaths a year caused by distracted driving. From a statistical standpoint the deaths caused by cell phones is much higher than guns. Using the logic, do we outlaw cell phones until they are 18?

The problem I have with this whole thing is their lack of life experience. In addition to this, I keep hearing they don't want to ban all guns, and then I see a bunch of signs that say ban all guns. HUH??

Hell, there was one interview where one of the youngsters simply says get rid of the constitution because it is outdated. Seriously, we live in the best country in the world and now you want to get rid of the constitution?
 
So instead of asking the Gov to fix things, why not reach out to kids on the fringe? My guess is that might work better. Nothing will done because of these protests and there would be no camaras if they went the route of reaching out.
So, 17-year-olds don't know enough to demand sensible gun reform but they do know enough to act as psychiatric evaluators for young people with mental health issues? I'd start with preventing those "kids on the fringe" from having access to weapons of mass casualty.
 
You speak very plain. If these kids wanted to take every gun from every single person in the country that is ok because they saw somebody get shot?

If somebody’s mother died from crack cocaine is it fine with you if her kids wanted the death penalty for all drug dealers? After all they saw their mother die from drugs.

What you say didn’t mean anything. At the end of the day the emotion will need to be taken out of the arguement and a real discussion will need to happen.

I have apparently missed where this is what they're suggesting.
 
My point is the easy access to excessive firepower has caused this problem. I’m with the students.
The students have had their chance to vent, protest and voice their fears at not feeling safe. All legit. Now, they should be registering to vote or doing so when they hit 18. Beyond that, get back to class and refocus.

I don't trust the American history aptitude of the average adult and far less the average teenager. My fear is that all they will listen to as they 'grow' in knowledge and experience is the extreme left/socialist leaning mantras to solve life's problems. Giving up rights and freedoms for perceived security and peace.
 
Hell, there was schooling shootings when I was in high school, and we didn't act like we knew what was best.

How about embracing the kids on the fringe instead of looking for the Gov to solve it for you?


I blame their parents. This generation is soft because of their parents. The crazy thing is, we didn't grow up soft.
Who the **** do you think you are? You are complaining about kids who lost 17 of their classmates in a terrorizing experience because they do not want others to have to go through the same experience? What's wrong with you? I'm tired of whiny little bitches who place killing weapon ownership over fixing an epidemic.
 
I am more sick of kids being shot in their schools, but that's just me.

The great thing about this topic is that what the Trump people are upset about is the total Trumpian approach of these kids. Lack of a PC approach, being loud with an aggressive position, leading with a "tough" stance, ignoring traditional power structures, using big events instead of lobbying, populist appeals, etc. Trumpers wanted to change politics in America...here you go! You want to lead with loud noises as long as you get what you want? It's going to go both ways.
 
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I don’t see where these kids want to make guns unlawful. They are taking a rather mainstream approach in limiting ammo size and limiting certain automatic / assault guns.

C'mon @joelbc1 , let's not muddle up the narrative for the gun nuts with actual facts.
 
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You speak very plain. If these kids wanted to take every gun from every single person in the country that is ok because they saw somebody get shot?
I don't believe any of these kids (there might be one exception) and hardly any liberal wants to take guns from every person in this country.

This is why nothing gets done. Because the right automatically goes to the extreme.

It's like you guys have a fetish with guns or something. So fuc*ing weird.
 
I remember school, the “in crowd” had a way at times of making life miserable for certain kids. Some kids didn’t handle it well and fell through the cracks.

In today’s environment that I s called bullying and you can probably multiply the hurt by about 50 with social media.

The kids are a big part of the problem. Maybe if kids accepted everybody for who they are and treated everybody how they would like to be treated there wouldn’t be so many shootings.

I would like less guns. I would also like kids to use social media responsibly and try to help ach other survive the teenager years.
 
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I don't believe any of these kids (there might be one exception) and hardly any liberal wants to take guns from every person in this country.

This is why nothing gets done. Because the right automatically goes to the extreme.

It's like you guys have a fetish with guns or something. So fuc*ing weird.
I am for gun control. Always have been. Defining how to do it is very difficult.

I have no gun fetish, I own no guns and hat the idea people can legally carry handguns.
 
LOL.

First, it was these damn kids today are lazy and aren't politically engaged.

Now, it's these damn kids are too engaged and they don't know anything.

I think the adults in this country suck, frankly.

Adults will always find reasons to complain about kids. Flipping Socrates had the same complaints as modern day adults. Yet they always pretend like this is a new problem just with this generation.

I say it's the adults who lack prospective.
 
Adults will always find reasons to complain about kids. Flipping Socrates had the same complaints as modern day adults. Yet they always pretend like this is a new problem just with this generation.

I say it's the adults who lack prospective.
I would concur with you sir.
 
What exactly do the kids want?

I think making bump stocks illegal is a good start.

I don’t think we need any long guns that hold more than 5 or 6 rounds. I am all for 21 minimum age to buy gun.
 
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Hell no.

I hope they keep it up. I think it's great they're exercising their freedom of expression.

No, what I'm really sick of are all the douchebags trying to quiet them or bully them into stopping their constitutional rights.

Lol, awfully ironic post
 
Ironic coming from a guy with Celtic in his screen name.

It’s ok for you to be proud of your ethnic heritage but not for this young lady?

Maybe you should go back to Ireland you dirty mick.

America, love it or leave it.
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Hell, there was schooling shootings when I was in high school, and we didn't act like we knew what was best.

How about embracing the kids on the fringe instead of looking for the Gov to solve it for you?


I blame their parents. This generation is soft because of their parents. The crazy thing is, we didn't grow up soft.
Lots of complete jerks in this thread. Absolute dicks that I wouldn't give the time of day.

I'm glad to see the activism by these teens. They aren't yet corrupted by money and greed and they see an obvious remedy to a dangerous situation. Lead on, children.
 
I remember school, the “in crowd” had a way at times of making life miserable for certain kids. Some kids didn’t handle it well and fell through the cracks.

In today’s environment that I s called bullying and you can probably multiply the hurt by about 50 with social media.

The kids are a big part of the problem. Maybe if kids accepted everybody for who they are and treated everybody how they would like to be treated there wouldn’t be so many shootings.

I would like less guns. I would also like kids to use social media responsibly and try to help ach other survive the teenager years.

I'm not going to discourage anyone from being nice to anyone else.

But here is the reality. There is always going to be someone out there who's disaffected and might be prone to violence. There is also going to always be violent extremists, that includes adults and teens.

Keeping guns out of their hands is extremely important.
 
The students have had their chance to vent, protest and voice their fears at not feeling safe. All legit. Now, they should be registering to vote or doing so when they hit 18. Beyond that, get back to class and refocus.

I don't trust the American history aptitude of the average adult and far less the average teenager. My fear is that all they will listen to as they 'grow' in knowledge and experience is the extreme left/socialist leaning mantras to solve life's problems. Giving up rights and freedoms for perceived security and peace.


I consider it common sense to address problems like excessive firepower
 
Conservative gun toting Republicans are realizing these young Americans are committed to this cause and it will only become more intense as the mid terms approach. I suspect you'll see a very organized "get out and vote" campaign with this effort.

There is room for compromise, but the NRA better be willing to look for that because this is a losing battle for them. And the GOP House members better realize a hard line anti gun reform approach won't be in their best interests.

Disclaimer... I have never owned a gun and have no desire to own one. Any objective person should know that reform is possible in regards to background checks and the gun show sales.
 
I would be all for the system Australia has for gun ownership. 60 minutes had a piece on this several months ago.


I was at a Jimmy Johns a few years ago. Some young guy that looked like a loser walks in with baggy shorts hanging below his underwear with a semi automatic pistol shoved between his ass and underwear. I am sure if challenged he probably had a permit but we immediately got up and left. What a F’ed up country we live in when That is socially acceptable.
 
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If this movement is the beginning of getting NRA and other lobbying groups' money out of politicians' pockets, I will be thrilled. The days of politicians acting in THEIR interests, based on bribes, and not the interests of the American people need to end. If these kids move us in that direction, I hope they keep it up.
 
The students have had their chance to vent, protest and voice their fears at not feeling safe. All legit. Now, they should be registering to vote or doing so when they hit 18. Beyond that, get back to class and refocus.

I don't trust the American history aptitude of the average adult and far less the average teenager. My fear is that all they will listen to as they 'grow' in knowledge and experience is the extreme left/socialist leaning mantras to solve life's problems. Giving up rights and freedoms for perceived security and peace.

Anyone who's as dismissive as you are is nowhere near as smart as you think you are.
 
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Yes, because they have so much life experience. Yes, lets all follow them. lololol

First of all they are only a couple years out from voting.

Secondly. . . Children from little kids on up to teenagers know that it's adult's job to protect them. They know that their political leader's jobs are to protect them.

They also know because someone came in with an AR-15 and shot a bunch of them that we are sucking at our job.

So I can't blame them.

Right now we have a bunch of adults who arn't doing their flipping job right, their most important job of protecting the next generation. They are completely and utterly failing at this job. But they are mad that the kids whom they are failing to protect have an opinion.
 
I don't believe any of these kids (there might be one exception) and hardly any liberal wants to take guns from every person in this country.

This is why nothing gets done. Because the right automatically goes to the extreme.

It's like you guys have a fetish with guns or something. So fuc*ing weird.
Right. Nothing extreme about the anti-gun forces.
 
What exactly do the kids want?

I think making bump stocks illegal is a good start.

I don’t think we need any long guns that hold more than 5 or 6 rounds. I am all for 21 minimum age to buy gun.

That's pretty much what they have been asking for. I saw a bunch of them talking on CBS's Face the Nation and they specifically mentioned ending high capacity magazine sales. Not a single one of them talked about taking away everyone's guns or banning the sale of guns or anything like it.

The idea that they don't know what they are asking for is completely not true. They have very specific grievances they are asking the government to redress.

But the gun nuts out there want to get people to ignore them because some other teenagers somewhere ate tidepods. Not any of the teens that are actually protesting for the record, they don't have proof any one of them ever ate a tide pod. But some other teens ate tidepods therefore we should just ignore all teens.

My response is a legal gun owner named Nicholas Cruz killed 17 children with a gun he legally owned. Maybe we should treat all gun owners like Nicholas Cruz if we are going to treat all teens like they ate a tide pod.
 
So informed that young lady is, lolololol. We should really listen to her. I hope she runs for office.

Agree with them or not, think they're vapid or not, most every HS sophomore and above will be eligible to vote in 2020. Will they? Historically, turnout in the 18-24s is low, but Obama got more of them out and for the moment (at least), they seem as politically active as any generation since Vietnam.
 
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