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Apple Has Threatened to Pull Twitter From App Store, Musk Claims

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This is what happens when one equates words as violence. Just because you don't like what someone might say or believe, doesn't mean you get to censor them in America. There once was a time in America when it was said, "I might not agree with what you say, but I will die defending it" and when Jews, argued to allow NAZIs to march in Chicago, but now we have Marxists in big tech and like all Marxist, they have 'Pravda".

Elon Musk unleashed a stream of confrontational Twitter posts directed at Apple — including claiming that the tech giant has threatened to remove the Twitter app from the Apple App Store without providing a reason for doing so.

“Apple has also threatened to withhold Twitter from its App Store, but won’t tell us why,” tweeted Musk, who has assumed the role of CEO of Twitter since closing the $44 billion deal for the company on Oct. 27.

Apple did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Musk on Monday also claimed that “Apple has mostly stopped advertising on Twitter. Do they hate free speech in America?” He tweeted at Apple CEO Tim Cook, “What’s going on here @tim_cook?” According to ad-spending tracking firm MediaRadar, Apple has been one of Twitter’s top advertisers in 2022, spending an estimated $39 million on the platform so far this year (which MediaRadar estimated represents 84% of Apple’s social media spending).




As he has previously, Musk called out Apple’s “30% tax” on in-app purchases processed through the App Store. That would include a 30% cut of Twitter Blue subscription fees (currently $7.99/month) paid through Apple’s App Store, with that dropping to 15% starting in the second year of a subscription.

Musk quote-tweeted a user who pointed out that Epic Games — amid its fight with Apple over payment terms for “Fortnite” — had created a parody of Apple’s famous “1984” ad calling attention to Apple’s “monopoly” in the app market.

The tech mogul also implied that Apple has “censored” certain apps, quoting a post from LBRY, a blockchain-based file-sharing and payment network, that said, “During Covid, Apple demanded our apps filter some search terms from being returned. If we did not filter the terms, our apps would not be allowed in the store.” Musk commented, “Who else has Apple censored?”

Musk’s stepped-up antagonism toward Apple and the App Store comes after Phil Schiller, the Apple executive who oversees the App Store, apparently deactivated his Twitter account earlier this month.

Apple publishes an extensive list of guidelines that developers must adhere to in order for their apps to be published in the App Store. With respect to social media services and other apps with user-generated content, Apple says such apps must include “A method for filtering objectionable material from being posted to the app”; “A mechanism to report offensive content and timely responses to concerns”; and “The ability to block abusive users from the service.”

Last year, Apple’s App Store removed Parler, a social app billed as a so-called “free speech” alternative to mainstream services, citing threats of violence on the app in the wake of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. Three months later, it allowed Parler (now owned by Kanye West), back on the App Store, saying that the company had improved its ability to remove hate speech and posts inciting violence.

Meanwhile, Musk recently suggested that he would build his own smartphone if Apple and/or Google pulled Twitter from their respective app stores.



Right-wing podcaster and former OANN host Liz Wheeler tweeted on Friday, “If Apple & Google boot Twitter from their app stores, @elonmusk should produce his own smartphone. Half the country would happily ditch the biased, snooping iPhone & Android. The man builds rockets to Mars, a silly little smartphone should be easy, right?” Musk responded, “I certainly hope it does not come to that, but, yes, if there is no other choice, I will make an alternative phone.”

Separately Monday, Musk tweeted a meme with a fake CNN headline that suggested anchor Don Lemon had warned that “Elon Musk could threaten free speech on Twitter by literally allowing people to speak freely.”
 
It's fascinating to watch everything unfolding with Musk/Twitter. It will be equally fascinating watching conservatives react when they figure out that Musk isn't on their side.
 
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I’m guessing because Twitter no longer has the staff to meet apple’s standards for inclusion. People have been saying since the layoffs this might happen.
 
Mofo was born on home plate and claims he hit a homerun.
Seems to be doing some pretty solid things for the world while standing on that base.


I realize Oprah gives out TVs and Berkshire throws a hell of a Christmas party but some people's disdain for him is comedy to me.
 
I’m guessing because Twitter no longer has the staff to meet apple’s standards for inclusion. People have been saying since the layoffs this might happen.
According to him, in their agreement, in the contract language apple takes 30% off the top.
 
Dude is a weirdo, no doubt, but point me in the direction of any human that has made the advancements for society he has in say the last 75 years.


If the dude didn't want to shit on Twitter he would be a hero to "90%" of these same people.


I el oh el.
I don’t disagree he has some impressive achievements.

He’s also an asshole and a troll, and that’s why I say 90% is self-inflicted.
 
Feels like a fake story from Musk - a lot like "you know who". You can download Truth Social from apple. I doubt they would block Twitter.
This is exactly what it is. Twitter isn’t getting pulled from the App Store unless Elon pulls it.

As for the ad revenue, Elon is acting like he has some inherent right to always have all the Apple ad revenue Twitter has always had. What about competing for it?
 
Dude is a weirdo, no doubt, but point me in the direction of any human that has made the advancements for society he has in say the last 75 years.


If the dude didn't want to shit on Twitter he would be a hero to "90%" of these same people.


I el oh el.
Just like with Trump, I don't like assholes. He's an asshole. He's also an asshole with an outsized view of his own intelligence.

The one smart thing he has done is hired very smart people to run his companies. Some pretty interesting articles out there about how the brainiacs at Space X literally had an entire ecosystem to work AROUND Musk, as most of his ideas were shit.

Interesting read here: https://www.businessinsider.com/wor...orkplace-culture-twitter-jim-cantrell-2022-11
 
So, private company (allegedly) is talking about removing access from their product of another product (also a private company)? Kind of like when a private company is removing users for violating it's terms of service, how is this a 1st Amendment issue?
 
This is exactly what it is. Twitter isn’t getting pulled from the App Store unless Elon pulls it.

As for the ad revenue, Elon is acting like he has some inherent right to always have all the Apple ad revenue Twitter has always had. What about competing for it?

Wait, you want a capitalist to adhere to capitalist principles? The hell you say?
 
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Just like with Trump, I don't like assholes. He's an asshole. He's also an asshole with an outsized view of his own intelligence.

The one smart thing he has done is hired very smart people to run his companies. Some pretty interesting articles out there about how the brainiacs at Space X literally had an entire ecosystem to work AROUND Musk, as most of his ideas were shit.
He is a pussy who became full of his own shit.


 
I’m guessing because Twitter no longer has the staff to meet apple’s standards for inclusion. People have been saying since the layoffs this might happen.
I imagine Apple gave him the typical notice that any changes that violate the App Store’s community guidelines could result in the app being removed.

He took that as a threat.

BTW, they’ve totally floated the idea of paid adult content, which would obviously get them bounced.
 
I imagine Apple gave him the typical notice that any changes that violate the App Store’s community guidelines could result in the app being removed.

He took that as a threat.

BTW, they’ve totally floated the idea of paid adult content, which would obviously get them bounced.
According to him it all started when twitter wasn't available on the apple store. Once that was brought to light he started to read the shit out of their policy language.



(I'm 99% sure that's what I read this morning)
 
There was a time when most Americans understood free speech wasn't about what side you found yourself on.


True. They also understood that First Amendment was to prevent the government from curtailing a citizens’ speech rights, as opposed to a battle between two private corporations that doesn’t implicate the First Amendment.
 
So, private company (allegedly) is talking about removing access from their product of another product (also a private company)? Kind of like when a private company is removing users for violating it's terms of service, how is this a 1st Amendment issue?

It’s not.
 
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So, private company (allegedly) is talking about removing access from their product of another product (also a private company)? Kind of like when a private company is removing users for violating it's terms of service, how is this a 1st Amendment issue?
Because…Abby?
 
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True. They also understood that First Amendment was to prevent the government from curtailing a citizens’ speech rights, as opposed to a battle between two private corporations that doesn’t implicate the First Amendment.
In every thread someone conflates the concept of free speech with the first amendment, as though the concept exists only in that context of limits on government power.

Where the first amendment will come in is the back channel communications wherein members of the government pressure private corporations to remove content that politicians object to.
We already know this happens. Jen Psaki announced it in the White House briefing room.
 
So, private company (allegedly) is talking about removing access from their product of another product (also a private company)? Kind of like when a private company is removing users for violating it's terms of service, how is this a 1st Amendment issue?
Maybe you should try and understand the 1st amendment before embarrassing yourself
 
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1. In every thread someone conflates the concept of free speech with the first amendment, as though the concept exists only in that context of limits on government power.

2. Where the first amendment will come in is the back channel communications wherein members of the government pressure private corporations to remove content that politicians object to.
We already know this happens. Jen Psaki announced it in the White House briefing room.

1. Agreed. The First Amendment limits the power of government over citizens’ speech.

2. If you think that’s true - I don’t because the politicians have the same right as the general public to alert the platforms to speech that violates the TOS and request takedowns - it certainly comes into play when Texas and Florida pass laws telling social media companies that they *cannot* regulate speech on their platforms.

The Supreme Court opinions in Twitter and Gonzalez this year will be really interesting.
 
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This is what happens when one equates words as violence. Just because you don't like what someone might say or believe, doesn't mean you get to censor them in America. There once was a time in America when it was said, "I might not agree with what you say, but I will die defending it" and when Jews, argued to allow NAZIs to march in Chicago, but now we have Marxists in big tech and like all Marxist, they have 'Pravda".

Elon Musk unleashed a stream of confrontational Twitter posts directed at Apple — including claiming that the tech giant has threatened to remove the Twitter app from the Apple App Store without providing a reason for doing so.

“Apple has also threatened to withhold Twitter from its App Store, but won’t tell us why,” tweeted Musk, who has assumed the role of CEO of Twitter since closing the $44 billion deal for the company on Oct. 27.

Apple did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Musk on Monday also claimed that “Apple has mostly stopped advertising on Twitter. Do they hate free speech in America?” He tweeted at Apple CEO Tim Cook, “What’s going on here @tim_cook?” According to ad-spending tracking firm MediaRadar, Apple has been one of Twitter’s top advertisers in 2022, spending an estimated $39 million on the platform so far this year (which MediaRadar estimated represents 84% of Apple’s social media spending).




As he has previously, Musk called out Apple’s “30% tax” on in-app purchases processed through the App Store. That would include a 30% cut of Twitter Blue subscription fees (currently $7.99/month) paid through Apple’s App Store, with that dropping to 15% starting in the second year of a subscription.

Musk quote-tweeted a user who pointed out that Epic Games — amid its fight with Apple over payment terms for “Fortnite” — had created a parody of Apple’s famous “1984” ad calling attention to Apple’s “monopoly” in the app market.

The tech mogul also implied that Apple has “censored” certain apps, quoting a post from LBRY, a blockchain-based file-sharing and payment network, that said, “During Covid, Apple demanded our apps filter some search terms from being returned. If we did not filter the terms, our apps would not be allowed in the store.” Musk commented, “Who else has Apple censored?”

Musk’s stepped-up antagonism toward Apple and the App Store comes after Phil Schiller, the Apple executive who oversees the App Store, apparently deactivated his Twitter account earlier this month.

Apple publishes an extensive list of guidelines that developers must adhere to in order for their apps to be published in the App Store. With respect to social media services and other apps with user-generated content, Apple says such apps must include “A method for filtering objectionable material from being posted to the app”; “A mechanism to report offensive content and timely responses to concerns”; and “The ability to block abusive users from the service.”

Last year, Apple’s App Store removed Parler, a social app billed as a so-called “free speech” alternative to mainstream services, citing threats of violence on the app in the wake of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. Three months later, it allowed Parler (now owned by Kanye West), back on the App Store, saying that the company had improved its ability to remove hate speech and posts inciting violence.

Meanwhile, Musk recently suggested that he would build his own smartphone if Apple and/or Google pulled Twitter from their respective app stores.



Right-wing podcaster and former OANN host Liz Wheeler tweeted on Friday, “If Apple & Google boot Twitter from their app stores, @elonmusk should produce his own smartphone. Half the country would happily ditch the biased, snooping iPhone & Android. The man builds rockets to Mars, a silly little smartphone should be easy, right?” Musk responded, “I certainly hope it does not come to that, but, yes, if there is no other choice, I will make an alternative phone.”

Separately Monday, Musk tweeted a meme with a fake CNN headline that suggested anchor Don Lemon had warned that “Elon Musk could threaten free speech on Twitter by literally allowing people to speak freely.”
Lol. Someone's got his fascist regimes mixed up.
 
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Why shouldn't Apple be allowed to "withhold" the TWITTER app from their product? That is a first amendment right to....isn't it?
If "the customer" demands TWITTER, the customer can buy a different I-phone....and the customer, who is always right, has spoken? Correct?
If Apple finds out down the line this was a poor business decision, they can include the "app" once again.
 
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