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Wonder what they'd have to say about this?


Which college football programs bring in the most TV viewers?​

  1. Ohio State (5.19M)
  2. Alabama (5.09M)
  3. Michigan (4.18M)
  4. Notre Dame (3.61M)
  5. LSU (3.22M)
  6. Auburn (3.12M)
  7. Georgia (2.91M)
  8. Oklahoma (2.90M)
  9. Clemson (2.67M)
  10. Penn State (2.55M)
  11. Florida (2.46M)
  12. Wisconsin (2.27M)
  13. Texas (2.269M)
  14. Florida State (2.23M)
  15. Michigan State (2.20M)
  16. Southern Cal (1.98M)
  17. Tennessee (1.85M)
  18. Texas A&M (1.75M)
  19. Oklahoma State (1.64M)
  20. Mississippi (1.61M)
  21. Iowa (1.67M)
  22. Nebraska (1.51M)
  23. Miami (1.503M)
  24. TCU (1.495M)
  25. Stanford (1.43M)
  26. Oregon (1.34M)
  27. Arkansas (1.33M)
  28. Washington (1.32M)
  29. Mississippi State (1.31M)
  30. West Virginia (1.27M)
  31. Virginia Tech (1.26M)
  32. UCLA (1.25M)
  33. Louisville (1.22M)
  34. Indiana (1.17M)
  35. Baylor (1.12M)
  36. South Carolina (1.07M)
  37. Texas Tech (921K)
  38. Washington State (909K)
  39. Northwestern (867K)
  40. Utah (856K)
  41. Minnesota (803K)
  42. Pittsburgh (781K)
  43. North Carolina (749K)
  44. Iowa State (747K)
  45. California (730K)
  46. BYU (714K)
  47. NC State (703K)
  48. Arizona State (695K)
  49. Syracuse (694K)
  50. Houston (689K)
 
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NorthDSMHawk said:
Wonder what they'd have to say about this?

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Which college football programs bring in the most TV viewers?​

  1. Ohio State (5.19M)
  2. Alabama (5.09M)
  3. Michigan (4.18M)
  4. Notre Dame (3.61M)
  5. LSU (3.22M)
  6. Auburn (3.12M)
  7. Georgia (2.91M)
  8. Oklahoma (2.90M)
  9. Clemson (2.67M)
  10. Penn State (2.55M)
  11. Florida (2.46M)
  12. Wisconsin (2.27M)
  13. Texas (2.269M)
  14. Florida State (2.23M)
  15. Michigan State (2.20M)
  16. Southern Cal (1.98M)
  17. Tennessee (1.85M)
  18. Texas A&M (1.75M)
  19. Oklahoma State (1.64M)
  20. Mississippi (1.61M)
  21. Iowa (1.67M)
  22. Nebraska (1.51M)
  23. Miami (1.503M)
  24. TCU (1.495M)
  25. Stanford (1.43M)
  26. Oregon (1.34M)
  27. Arkansas (1.33M)
  28. Washington (1.32M)
  29. Mississippi State (1.31M)
  30. West Virginia (1.27M)
  31. Virginia Tech (1.26M)
  32. UCLA (1.25M)
  33. Louisville (1.22M)
  34. Indiana (1.17M)
  35. Baylor (1.12M)
  36. South Carolina (1.07M)
  37. Texas Tech (921K)
  38. Washington State (909K)
  39. Northwestern (867K)
  40. Utah (856K)
  41. Minnesota (803K)
  42. Pittsburgh (781K)
  43. North Carolina (749K)
  44. Iowa State (747K)
  45. California (730K)
  46. BYU (714K)
  47. NC State (703K)
  48. Arizona State (695K)
  49. Syracuse (694K)
  50. Houston (689K)
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Seems spot on to me. ISU will never be invited to the Big 10 with those paltry numbers.
 
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NorthDSMHawk said:
Wonder what they'd have to say about this?

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Which college football programs bring in the most TV viewers?​

  1. Ohio State (5.19M)
  2. Alabama (5.09M)
  3. Michigan (4.18M)
  4. Notre Dame (3.61M)
  5. LSU (3.22M)
  6. Auburn (3.12M)
  7. Georgia (2.91M)
  8. Oklahoma (2.90M)
  9. Clemson (2.67M)
  10. Penn State (2.55M)
  11. Florida (2.46M)
  12. Wisconsin (2.27M)
  13. Texas (2.269M)
  14. Florida State (2.23M)
  15. Michigan State (2.20M)
  16. Southern Cal (1.98M)
  17. Tennessee (1.85M)
  18. Texas A&M (1.75M)
  19. Oklahoma State (1.64M)
  20. Mississippi (1.61M)
  21. Iowa (1.67M)
  22. Nebraska (1.51M)
  23. Miami (1.503M)
  24. TCU (1.495M)
  25. Stanford (1.43M)
  26. Oregon (1.34M)
  27. Arkansas (1.33M)
  28. Washington (1.32M)
  29. Mississippi State (1.31M)
  30. West Virginia (1.27M)
  31. Virginia Tech (1.26M)
  32. UCLA (1.25M)
  33. Louisville (1.22M)
  34. Indiana (1.17M)
  35. Baylor (1.12M)
  36. South Carolina (1.07M)
  37. Texas Tech (921K)
  38. Washington State (909K)
  39. Northwestern (867K)
  40. Utah (856K)
  41. Minnesota (803K)
  42. Pittsburgh (781K)
  43. North Carolina (749K)
  44. Iowa State (747K)
  45. California (730K)
  46. BYU (714K)
  47. NC State (703K)
  48. Arizona State (695K)
  49. Syracuse (694K)
  50. Houston (689K)
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Must ignore.
 
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From the article

"Networks sign these deals years ahead of time for the value they expect to get. They don’t know which teams are going to be ranked in the Top 10 five years from now. They’re not looking for programs that are on a roll right now (Iowa State), they’re looking for programs that have high upside (Southern Cal) and/or low downside (Texas)."

No way around this for Bowlsby.
 
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NorthDSMHawk said:
Wonder what they'd have to say about this?

View embedded media

Which college football programs bring in the most TV viewers?​

  1. Ohio State (5.19M)
  2. Alabama (5.09M)
  3. Michigan (4.18M)
  4. Notre Dame (3.61M)
  5. LSU (3.22M)
  6. Auburn (3.12M)
  7. Georgia (2.91M)
  8. Oklahoma (2.90M)
  9. Clemson (2.67M)
  10. Penn State (2.55M)
  11. Florida (2.46M)
  12. Wisconsin (2.27M)
  13. Texas (2.269M)
  14. Florida State (2.23M)
  15. Michigan State (2.20M)
  16. Southern Cal (1.98M)
  17. Tennessee (1.85M)
  18. Texas A&M (1.75M)
  19. Oklahoma State (1.64M)
  20. Mississippi (1.61M)
  21. Iowa (1.67M)
  22. Nebraska (1.51M)
  23. Miami (1.503M)
  24. TCU (1.495M)
  25. Stanford (1.43M)
  26. Oregon (1.34M)
  27. Arkansas (1.33M)
  28. Washington (1.32M)
  29. Mississippi State (1.31M)
  30. West Virginia (1.27M)
  31. Virginia Tech (1.26M)
  32. UCLA (1.25M)
  33. Louisville (1.22M)
  34. Indiana (1.17M)
  35. Baylor (1.12M)
  36. South Carolina (1.07M)
  37. Texas Tech (921K)
  38. Washington State (909K)
  39. Northwestern (867K)
  40. Utah (856K)
  41. Minnesota (803K)
  42. Pittsburgh (781K)
  43. North Carolina (749K)
  44. Iowa State (747K)
  45. California (730K)
  46. BYU (714K)
  47. NC State (703K)
  48. Arizona State (695K)
  49. Syracuse (694K)
  50. Houston (689K)
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Wow on the USC number and Oregon less than Iowa. Maybe they don't bring a ton to the table?
 
hawkfeever said:
Wow on the USC number and Oregon less than Iowa. Maybe they don't bring a ton to the table?
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Not real suprised by those, actually. Oregon was hot for awhile (Thank you Phil Knight) but they don't have a huge fan following outside the immediate area. Oregon is more populus than IOWA but it's a different place...I'm guessing a lot of the folks in Portland don't give two shits about college sports. But #26 is nothing to be embarrased about.

USC a bit more surprising, but their "National" brand has faded quite a bit. (see Nebraska). The money alums out there are never happy (so says my LA buddy who's a hard core SC guy) and to some degree have made it hard to get a big time coach. That said, they're still #16. That ain't bad.

Late game times don't help for either.
 
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ISU (and Iowa, for that matter) have STABLE viewing numbers. In other words, they have loyal and passionate fans who tune in/show up to games in decently large numbers no matter what. The difference is - in my humble opinion, anecdotally and nothing more - that Iowa has (1) more fans and (2) fans spread out in more major markets, which indeed does matter to advertisers.

Meanwhile, schools like Rutgers, UCLA, Illinois, Maryland, etc. will ebb and flow from having meh-to-bad ratings when THEY are bad but have the potential to be huge cash cows when they’re good. For example, Illinois in 2007 and Rutgers in 2006 scored unparalleled ratings in the Chicago and NYC markets, respectively, because they’re some of the few teams that Joe No College might jump on the bandwagon for in those areas if they simply want to get in on the college football craze. Conferences have shown that they clearly care about this.

The latter is the polar opposite of appeal compared to Iowa or ISU … the thing about ISU is that they’ll just offer a slightly deflated version of what Iowa already gives to the Big Ten while adding zero new markets. And markets WILL still matter for advertising even without cable considerations (which also aren’t going away anytime soon).
 
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His Hawkness said:
Seems spot on to me. ISU will never be invited to the Big 10 with those paltry numbers.
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ISU will never get into the Big Ten, even with increased paltry numbers. The clones and KU mean reducing existing members share of the revenue pie. Big Ten presidents/chancellors understand this. Thanks for applying, don't stop looking for another conference.

I am wondering what the Mountain West East Division will look like in 2023 or 2024. Colorado State, Air Force, Kansas, Iowa State, who else?
 
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Pac-12 numbers are underrated by this measure because their schedules are crap (9 Pac-12 games that are at bad times or poor windows or against teams nobody in the East half of the country cares about compared to what Big Ten and SEC get).

Imagine for a moment if USC/Oregon/Washington/Stanford/UCLA played 3 or 4 games against current Big Ten members every year.

That's why those Pac-12 teams are appealing; their rating would look even better with 3-4 Big Ten games and our contract windows.

It matters who you play and when you play.

Of course Rutgers has crap ratings, literally every game they play is on BTN because they've been bad the past decade.
 
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zeek55 said:
Pac-12 numbers are underrated by this measure because their schedules are crap (9 Pac-12 games that are at bad times or poor windows or against teams nobody in the East half of the country cares about compared to what Big Ten and SEC get).

Imagine for a moment if USC/Oregon/Washington/Stanford/UCLA played 3 or 4 games against current Big Ten members every year.

That's why those Pac-12 teams are appealing; their rating would look even better with 3-4 Big Ten games and our contract windows.

It matters who you play and when you play.

Of course Rutgers has crap ratings, literally every game they play is on BTN because they've been bad the past decade.
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But they don’t, and their ratings aren’t that good.
 
Hwk-I-St8 said:
All those saying pulling in PAC12 teams would really help out and that Iowa was a freeloader in the B1G.....not so much.
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They WOULD help, for similar reasons as to why currently-low-revenue-and-bad-ratings schools like Rutgers, Maryland and Illinois are still quite valuable to the Big Ten (i.e., potential), and that’s not even touching on academics.

Saying Iowa is a freeloader in the Big Ten is quite ridiculous, however.
 
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Hwk-I-St8 said:
All those saying pulling in PAC12 teams would really help out and that Iowa was a freeloader in the B1G.....not so much.
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Not advocating for PAC schools but I would bet their viewership would jump if in the BT. Lots of BT fans out west but not as many PAC fans in the Midwest for example.
 
Packer54 said:
Not advocating for PAC schools but I would bet their viewership would jump if in the BT. Lots of BT fans out westY but not as many PAC fans in the Midwest for example.
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This and the very fact that they'd be playing teams that people in the East half of the country cares about would change things.

Pac-12 teams are way lower profile because well less than a third of the population lives out there, and people in the East half don't care about most of those teams.

Create a Big Ten Pacific division with 6 teams: USC/UCLA/Cal/Stanford/Oregon/Washington. They play 5 games against each other, and then 4 games against current Big Ten teams. That's 24 games against the current Big Ten, so on average they'll be playing 5 games against Ohio State/Michigan/Penn State and then another 5-7 games against Wisconsin/Nebraska/Iowa/Michigan State.

in those 10-12 games, I'm sure you can create some national matchups that would grab eyeballs from every corner of the country.

Hwk-I-St8 said:
THEIR viewership would jump, but if ours doesn't, it's potentially a wash or worse.

We need Big Fish, not "they don't suck" fish.
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Ratings for Big Ten teams on average would probably rise if it's the right group. A group of say 6 that includes USC/Oregon/Washington means 50% of the time you're playing one of those 6, it's probably a high profile team.

A half of the Big Ten is lower profile than most of those 6, and I hate to say it but that affects the West more than the East.

So if Ohio State/Michigan/Penn State are dropping a game against the West for one against one of those 6; it's likely to be a higher profile matchup that would draw national eyeballs.

West Division teams really only do that when we're ranked top 25 nationally.
 
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Fighter of the Nightman said:
They WOULD help, for similar reasons as to why currently-low-revenue-and-bad-ratings schools like Rutgers, Maryland and Illinois are still quite valuable to the Big Ten (i.e., potential), and that’s not even touching on academics.

Saying Iowa is a freeloader in the Big Ten is quite ridiculous, however.
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B10 revenue took a huge jump up to he year Rutgers and Maryland joined.
 
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#44 seems about right. The only way to improve upon that is sustained success. We'll see how it goes this year. Time will tell....
 
Crybaby “the Bear” Pollard will not let this stand, didn’t they get his memo?
 
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