What a complete debacle this game has been. Garza can't guard anybody on the floor and needs to sit. Guards doing absolutely nothing. It's another game where the opponent looks like they have 7 defenders. Cook the only one capable of doing anything 1:1. Expected a thud tonight but not this bad.
Are there any guards playing for Iowa?
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They get so stagnant when the pound it into Cook. Need to mix it in better.
Really bad coaching by Fran. Pound it into Cook for the entire second half trying to get Pardon out while everyone else stands around. Get Bohannon some looks and get freaking Garza out. 4 guards Garza has no business being on the floor. Put Dailey or Till in. Pardon not the problem-- Vic Law.
Without Cook Iowa down 20. What game are you watching?
At least he can do something to get shots unlike the rest of the team. Agree Cook awful at the line.
Tonight's a turd for sure.
The number remains at 3. Three more wins out of the remaining games to get to 10-10 in the league and secure a tourney bid.
They're not getting a four seed. They won't be playing in Des Moines.
BUT, they're still on track to make the tourney. Which is better than many had them at the start of the year, including me.
Make the tourney, have a shot at winning a first round game. I'll be pleased with that.
The number remains at 3. Three more wins out of the remaining games to get to 10-10 in the league and secure a tourney bid.
They're not getting a four seed. They won't be playing in Des Moines.
BUT, they're still on track to make the tourney. Which is better than many had them at the start of the year, including me.
Make the tourney, have a shot at winning a first round game. I'll be pleased with that.
Iowa doesn't have a true point guard or leadership.
That's why they're inconsistent.
Do some of you guys really have that bad of memories? Both Moss and Bohannon are capable of having big games. So, yes, Iowa has guards, they just need a point guard. It's really that simple.
That's why they're inconsistent.
Do some of you guys really have that bad of memories? Both Moss and Bohannon are capable of having big games. So, yes, Iowa has guards, they just need a point guard. It's really that simple.
Bahahaha.......we have 19 wins and will be rated in the top 20 this week.
I get it, the game was frustrating....but come on. These are our guys and they've been pretty damn good this year. I don't recall a guard that has had two games in a row like JBO just had. Indiana on the road....JB's nads are so big he must get tired just dragging them around the court.....sorry, that last one sounded like the reverse over the top I was reading in this thread.
I get it, the game was frustrating....but come on. These are our guys and they've been pretty damn good this year. I don't recall a guard that has had two games in a row like JBO just had. Indiana on the road....JB's nads are so big he must get tired just dragging them around the court.....sorry, that last one sounded like the reverse over the top I was reading in this thread.
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Lot’s of LOL to those that just can’t bite their tongue until the game is over. . I know, I know “I stand behind my post” LOL. Pg, pg, pg SO overblown. Iowa got EVERYTHING they wanted on offense but missed bunny after bunny. Oh yes, those bunnies go down with a “prototypical pg”. Defensively I guess you would have put your “prototypical pg” on forward Vic Law so he wouldn’t “go off”LOL
Cook was 5/13 from field and missed 2 front ends of 1 and 1. While I agree Cook was valuable and overall asset, Iowa did end up going to him too often and also going double big with Garza, we were terrible on defense. Garza got burned by Pardon multiple times and Vic Law socred on him as well. The full court press and going small and letting the guards shoot turned the game around. The original game plan got us down by 15 pts.
I think Jordan is a tough, gritty player and I'll leave it at that.
My biggest issue is fan hysteria and hyperbole from one game to the next. Suppose Iowa had lost tonight and at Indiana on Thursday. What would our fans be saying about Luka Garza tonight?
You see what I mean? Fans react from one game to the next based on the results, so their emotions take over their brains. Luka is a great player who's hit a rough patch after coming alive a couple weeks ago. He's still a good player, but had Iowa lost these last two games there would be tons of idiots on here ragging on him and talking about how much he sucks. The same as people rag on Moss, Cook, JBo, etc. based on win/loss results. It's ignorant and many fans just don't get it.
JBo has been up and down this year. The bottom line is he's a mentally tough kid who gets the most of his talent. I'm proud he's a Hawkeye. I don't know why people interpret me saying I don't believe he fits the mold of a traditional point guard as an insult. I really don't. But I can tell you this: you won't ever find me posting from one week to the next that so and so sucks and then when they have a big game that so and so is the next (fill in the blank of famous NBA players).
So, I try to keep things in perspective. JBo is a great player doing his best to fulfill the role of point guard. And, in general, he's doing a hell of a job doing it. Lol. I still don't believe he's a point guard, though.
Cook had a double double tonight. Yes, he struggled from the field but he was 9/13 from the line and finished with 19 points and 11 boards. Not too shabby. He also was a disruptive force down low and got a lot of Northwestern bigs in foul trouble. Cook was a bully down low and should have been fed the rock early and often. Not you, but I really don't understand the fan who said Tyler Cook was horrible tonight or fans who don't realize the asset he is to this team.
Last, I would say Iowa got down because they took a casual interest in playing defense and had low energy tonight. Northwestern was pressing our guards throughout most of the game and disrupted the offensive rhythm. Iowa just came alive in those last two minutes and pulled out a gutty win.
It’s not awful. What hurt was the back to back front ends he missed. I always think of a missed front end like a turnover. Always HUGE to get to that double bonus.
The problem is that when every trip down the floor is "feed Cook", the rest of the team falls asleep and it absolutely carries over. We got killed on the boards, missed all kinds of 6 footers, etc.
When the ball went into Cook, it never went back out. That's how offenses become stagnant. If Cook is making every one of those shots, it's a different game, but he doesn't and he never will. Then he's just forcing things and throwing it toward the basket, with no one wearing an Iowa jersey there for a putback.
This isn't the first time it's happened nor the first time Iowa has struggled offensively because of it. Pardon isn't Bill Walton, he's not a game changer that has to be on the bench in foul trouble for Iowa to win.
Run the Offense Fran! With your TEAM!
Hey, we played a head up the ass game for 38 minutes and still showed the character and grit to win it a dramatic talked about fashion.
That game is a loss last season. Good teams occasionally pull out a game where they played poorly most of the game. Of course, NW shot out of their asses tonight, as will also sometimes happen to bad shooters.
Hawks are four wins from a lock with seven games to play. Think we'll win the next three. Probably won't be a lot of games where the boys miss more shots inside of 1 foot as we saw tonight. But it also serves as a reminder that mental toughness must be applied all the time in every game. Feeling insufficiently talented to play a second out of focus or even the time to look over their shoulder with a 20 point lead is the attitude these kids need.
That game is a loss last season. Good teams occasionally pull out a game where they played poorly most of the game. Of course, NW shot out of their asses tonight, as will also sometimes happen to bad shooters.
Hawks are four wins from a lock with seven games to play. Think we'll win the next three. Probably won't be a lot of games where the boys miss more shots inside of 1 foot as we saw tonight. But it also serves as a reminder that mental toughness must be applied all the time in every game. Feeling insufficiently talented to play a second out of focus or even the time to look over their shoulder with a 20 point lead is the attitude these kids need.
You're so f___ ing brilliant, where is this All American point guard coming from at this point of the season. Only one team in NCAA is going to win everything and it probably doesn't have the best point guard in America...
The point of my thread was that Fran apparently forgot he had 4 guys not named Cook on the floor. Great idea to feed Tyler when it made sense. Bad idea when it was Cook vs. NW and Iowa had no movement. Iowa has two of the best shooters in the B1G in JW and Bohannon and Moss, when it's good Moss, can get hot.
Fran has to get his head out and use the attention Cook gets on D to get guys some open looks. It was once again Bohannon saving the team in a late game situation vs. anything Fran did. Garza was awful and should have been on the bench well before his 4th foul. Fran and his staff looked like complete amateurs last night and had they lost, it would have been on Fran.
Fran has to get his head out and use the attention Cook gets on D to get guys some open looks. It was once again Bohannon saving the team in a late game situation vs. anything Fran did. Garza was awful and should have been on the bench well before his 4th foul. Fran and his staff looked like complete amateurs last night and had they lost, it would have been on Fran.
“The problem is that when every trip down the floor is "feed Cook", the rest of the team falls asleep and it absolutely carries over. We got killed on the boards, missed all kinds of 6 footers, etc. “
This quote from 23 so far is spot on. No need to get in the weeds but NW’s defense created some of this.
This quote from 23 so far is spot on. No need to get in the weeds but NW’s defense created some of this.
Fran got so caught up in getting NW's post guys in foul trouble, that we forgot about all of our other offensive weapons until it was desperation time. Anyone who thinks Cook was good last night needs to realize that efficiency is much more important than volume in basketball.
On defense, the whole team needs to get better. Putting it mildly, we are just not a good man-to-man defensive team. I am glad Fran has figured out how to switch to zone and zone press, when we are getting killed trying to stay with our man. He sometimes takes a little to long to change.
On defense, the whole team needs to get better. Putting it mildly, we are just not a good man-to-man defensive team. I am glad Fran has figured out how to switch to zone and zone press, when we are getting killed trying to stay with our man. He sometimes takes a little to long to change.
Good points but on Cook, what else is he supposed to do with Fran forcing him the ball and I am sure telling him to attack Pardon? Why was Fran consumed with fouling Pardon out when it was Law and the other guards that were scoring all the points? Garza was flat out awful yet Fran kept him in the game where defensively he was getting dusted and offensively he was beyond the arc. Cook missed some bunnies I agree but he was forcing it because a: Fran was telling him to and b: everyone else was standing around. IMO.
We're 19-5 and I think in recent games Fran's in game coaching has been really good.....he's calling time outs and making in game adjustments that seem to work.
Is he perfect....no, of course not. Do we as fans know the game better than he does, no of course not. It's good to be able to discuss these things without trashing him or players.....second guessing and discussing strategy and adjustments is what these boards are all about.....it's been a really good season to be able to do this.
Bottom line: this team just needs to get more consistent at playing at or close to the level that they are capable of in all aspects of the game....if they can do that we should have a really really strong finish to this surprising season.
We won a stinker last night....that we probably shouldn't have.....but sometimes good teams and good season go this way. Let's hope that the good fortune keeps coming our way.
Is he perfect....no, of course not. Do we as fans know the game better than he does, no of course not. It's good to be able to discuss these things without trashing him or players.....second guessing and discussing strategy and adjustments is what these boards are all about.....it's been a really good season to be able to do this.
Bottom line: this team just needs to get more consistent at playing at or close to the level that they are capable of in all aspects of the game....if they can do that we should have a really really strong finish to this surprising season.
We won a stinker last night....that we probably shouldn't have.....but sometimes good teams and good season go this way. Let's hope that the good fortune keeps coming our way.
Connor is a 3. Needs to be great 3 point shooter. 20 ..ft. range would great..Has shown flashes.Baseball career would also be ok. Stil has good potential in BB.
As far as the good stuff he did, I think he drew about eight fouls throughout the game. He put a lot of pressure on NW. If any other Iowa guys step up in the first 15 minutes of the 2nd half Cook wouldn't have had to put himself in situations where he was pressing. If Cook looked bad it was because his teammates were AWOL until five minutes were left.
I don’t think anybody is blaming TC. He didn’t play a great game, but was doing what was asked of him. I think they wanted to replicate what Iowa did in their win at Northwestern, and it seemed to me like Fran got overly-honed in on doing that
We have bad coaching and no PG... yet
2nd in league in scoring
2nd in league in FG%
2nd in league in assists
2nd in league in 3PM, 4th in league in 3P%
5th in league in AST/TO ratio
That's one heckuva trick
2nd in league in scoring
2nd in league in FG%
2nd in league in assists
2nd in league in 3PM, 4th in league in 3P%
5th in league in AST/TO ratio
That's one heckuva trick
I already regret this, but you are absolutely right. We have waaaaaayyyyyy too many fans that think Tyler Cook has total autonomy over how he plays. Iowa should pound the ball into TC as often as possible. It is Fran’s job to get his teammates to cut and run action off of that when the ball is in the post. It is not TC’s fault we occasionally have 4 guys standing and watching and no one crashing the boards. Cook has shown to be a very willing passer, but not if you are standing there with your thumb up your ass. Looking forward to having this conversation or something similar after the Rutgers game.
We sure have a lot whiny bitches out there . God sakes yes it wasn’t perfect by any means last night! Most of us understand that .
TC wasn’t perfect by a mile but he kept us hanging around until we could make the late run for the win.
Have a little perspective people. Give NW a little credit. They played like a desperate team and their D last night was pretty damn impressive for 38 minutes.
Bottom line: Relax. It’s a win. Get ready for Rutgers
TC wasn’t perfect by a mile but he kept us hanging around until we could make the late run for the win.
Have a little perspective people. Give NW a little credit. They played like a desperate team and their D last night was pretty damn impressive for 38 minutes.
Bottom line: Relax. It’s a win. Get ready for Rutgers
Not to mention, for those that actually watched the game in it’s entirety, NW hit a ton of shots they haven’t been making, and we missed a ton of shots we have been making. We found a way to get a win in thrilling fashion and I’m enjoying the hell out of it.
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I’ll settle for bad coaching and no PGs every year if this is what it produces. Then again, Fran should have been fired after last season too.
I wish I could like this post 100 times because that is about how many times I have posted something similar this season. The other thing about this is that guys that aren't involved in offense, most likely aren't 100% engaged in defense either.
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