Too many holes in the defense.
It was typical Ankeny football during the Nelson era. They don't execute in crunch time, regardless of the situation.
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Too many holes in the defense.
I am assuming you have heard something Legend?
Not this year, but in upcoming years it could be crazy.Legend - good point but “many others” would be 3. As they need to have already been enrolled and implemented the process. As far as the association has told us it is a total of 3 ruled ineligible. And don’t know if the other 2 appealed. So really wouldn’t be floodgates opening. But understand your point.
If you read the rule, its seems none of these kids should have been given eligibility right away. They are all here to play football, and that is it, which goes against the foundation of the actual ruleNot this year, but in upcoming years it could be crazy.
If you read the rule, its seems none of these kids should have been given eligibility right away. They are all here to play football, and that is it, which goes against the foundation of the actual rule
Once they started to pick and choose, the IHSAA opened themselves up to scrutiny.
Perhaps they can fall back on covid and how that impacted the interpretation of the rules should some other event drive kids to Iowa to play high school football. But they handled this poorly from the start.
Anytime you leave things to the interpretation of others intent you are going to have a major problem with enforcement.
Their intent to be here just to play should have zero bearing at all on anything. Are they living in the district? Are they attending school? Are they passing their classes? Those are objective.benchmarks. Anything beyond that is bs
But, what if they have an apartment in one district and in another........ The bs part is not allowing everyone to do the same thing, as it has been happening for years.
Points raised are interesting. I will say this. First, the Association drafted and promulgated the rules. So if they are ambiguous or actually silent that is on them. Not other people. Second, on the spirit to prevent kids from transferring just to play, there is a kid eligible who transferred from Illinois and said explicitly he transferred “only” to try and get a college scholarship.
Lots of wealthy people have multiple residences. If the kid is living in the apartment and attending school that should be all that matters. Especially the attending school part.
Lots of wealthy people have multiple residences. If the kid is living in the apartment and attending school that should be all that matters. Especially the attending school part.
We are looking at buying a second home in Florida right now. If we were to make that our residence during the school year and my kid attends school every day why would it matter if their younger brother is living in Iowa and attending school here?
It doesn't matter. Are you renting or owning within the district? Are you attending class? Are you passing?
Anything beyond that is putting the power of perception into someone's hands that shouldn't have that power.
The ihsaa is going to get slapped around by this judge if it comes back in front of him. As they should.
The attorney should look at filing civil litigation if the kid doesn't play tomorrow night. We can only mail our response out? Bullshit
Bruce and his mother are living with another family in Ankeny....their lease with that family is for $100 per month per court records.
So what?
They want to know how much you pay for your rent?
Real quick, without going thru all 9 pages of this thread, can you give the bullet points of what is required in Iowa HS sports of a transfer (in state or out of state, like Arland) to be eligible at the CURRENT school? And then, in Arland's case, where the problem(s) lie?Thanks Doff. Wish you ran the Association! So does the Bruce family.
Real quick, without going thru all 9 pages of this thread, can you give the bullet points of what is required in Iowa HS sports of a transfer (in state or out of state, like Arland) to be eligible at the CURRENT school? And then, in Arland's case, where the problem(s) lie?
TIA
Real quick, without going thru all 9 pages of this thread, can you give the bullet points of what is required in Iowa HS sports of a transfer (in state or out of state, like Arland) to be eligible at the CURRENT school? And then, in Arland's case, where the problem(s) lie?
TIA
I thought he moved because his old HS wasn't playing?Sounds like they haven’t spelled it out...which is why it can’t be rectified. Will be interested to hear his reply and see if remedies can be done if the rulings and court go against him.
Can imagine Bruce is especially pissed since his old HS team is playing tomorrow night and sounds like there is no way he will be.
"The rules do not require the entire family to move at one time. If that is what they are hanging their hats on ... they are reading additional language" into the rules, Bruce's attorney says.
"What message are we trying to send? That if you're a single parent and don't have a lot of money, then we're going to punish your child," the family's attorney said.
Arland had to sit out another game on Friday, Sep 11. The IHSAA deliberated on Thursday Sep 10 and planned on mailing Bruce its ruling following Sep 10's appeal hearing. Bruce's attorneys were hoping for a quick, emailed ruling.
MAILING THEIR RULING? Come on, this is 2020. At the very least they could send their ruling via a horseback messenger. What a sh!tshow. The state of Iowa looks very backwards here.
CID - that is the most ridiculous part of this. I mean we can guess how they are gonna rule since nobody wants to admit they are wrong. But to say they need to mail it when we agreed email is not only fine but requested as time is critical. They basically said rules are rules. About the only time they have followed their own rules in this matter but I digress. That said, they didn’t have much of an answer when they were reminded that their original ruling was sent by email so I think they kind of waived the “snail mail” supposed requirement. But mail it is. Really is unreal and not only petty but prejudicial. Let’s say they did the ruling Thursday or even yesterday and God forbid admitted they were wrong, so we get it today or Monday after Arland already missed another game? Or they simply rubber stamped their decision and we have to go to Court for an emergency hearing which could have been done yesterday in time for the game but we won’t know either way until the mail truck comes. Sorry for the bitch but come on.
CID - totally agree. Merits are what they are. But procedurally it is a joke. Can’t email a ruling now when you did previously?! When you know you have a truncated season and the kid is going to school and practicing? Basically just hamstringing the timeline for whether a kid can play. The way they are playing the long game the season will be over. And obviously then a moot point. A very sad commentary on the process especially the ad hoc decisions on when to apply the “rules” or not. Just be f’n transparent and not play a shell game. As Brody Brecht tweeted (I don’t know how to do twitter but my kids do) in a nutshell just be fair and consistent.
You mean after they emailed the original ruling? Pretty petty move by the boy$ in Boone and their a$$ ociation
NOTE that Ankeny head coach Rick Nelson said he'd want Arland to play even if he had transferred to Dowling."The rules do not require the entire family to move at one time. If that is what they are hanging their hats on ... they are reading additional language" into the rules, Bruce's attorney says.
"What message are we trying to send? That if you're a single parent and don't have a lot of money, then we're going to punish your child," the family's attorney said.
Arland had to sit out another game on Friday, Sep 11. The IHSAA deliberated on Thursday Sep 10 and planned on mailing Bruce its ruling following Sep 10's appeal hearing. Bruce's attorneys were hoping for a quick, emailed ruling.
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Could comment but after talking to multiple other lawyers who post on here or read these these boards who have sided with me I agree to totally not do it.
CID - that is the most ridiculous part of this. I mean we can guess how they are gonna rule since nobody wants to admit they are wrong. But to say they need to mail it when we agreed email is not only fine but requested as time is critical. They basically said rules are rules. About the only time they have followed their own rules in this matter but I digress. That said, they didn’t have much of an answer when they were reminded that their original ruling was sent by email so I think they kind of waived the “snail mail” supposed requirement. But mail it is. Really is unreal and not only petty but prejudicial. Let’s say they did the ruling Thursday or even yesterday and God forbid admitted they were wrong, so we get it today or Monday after Arland already missed another game? Or they simply rubber stamped their decision and we have to go to Court for an emergency hearing which could have been done yesterday in time for the game but we won’t know either way until the mail truck comes. Sorry for the bitch but come on.