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[Hawkeyeinsoutherncalifornia]

I think this has some merit ...










Replying to @_AlexGookin
Asking someone to not visit other places after you commit isn't a big ask. If you want to visit other places, fine don't commit, that's what the recruiting process is. But fans mad about this is like your GF's family being mad at you for asking her to stay faithful.

 

[BIG10MANIAC]

I agree that once a recruit is committed he should not take (or ask) for other visits... But... on the same token, I also do not think Coaches should be allowed to schedule a visit with kids who have committed... What’s good for the recruit is good for the Coaches...

 

[Kurt Warner]

Yep, once committed there should be no need whatsoever to visit other schools, period

 

[Herkmeister]

Commitment

Not a hard word to understand.
It's a way of life for successful people.

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

I agree that once a recruit is committed he should not take (or ask) for other visits... But... on the same token, I also do not think Coaches should be allowed to schedule a visit with kids who have committed... What’s good for the recruit is good for the Coaches...

 

[Hawkeyeinsoutherncalifornia]

Well said Maniac, couldn’t of put it better than that.. once committed should stay committed.. AKA... Melvin Gordon...

I agree that once a recruit is committed he should not take (or ask) for other visits... But... on the same token, I also do not think Coaches should be allowed to schedule a visit with kids who have committed... What’s good for the recruit is good for the Coaches...

 

[Roy-munson]

Well said Maniac, couldn’t of put it better than that.. once committed should stay committed.. AKA... Melvin Gordon...

Yea but he saw something on his visit he didn’t like during the game.. I’d saw keep the recruits out of the locker room during games, 105 guys on a team not all of them will get along, but they all have one goal

 

[DaCDiggity]

Biggest issue is kids hitching a ride so they aren't left out of P5 football then waiting to see what else comes along

 

[Hawk68]

I believe most of you are being very hypocritical. I have never seen one bitch when someone decommits to come to Iowa. There have been many years when we have ended our recruiting by taking a few MAC recruits.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

I believe most of you are being very hypocritical. I have never seen one bitch when someone decommits to come to Iowa. There have been many years when we have ended our recruiting by taking a few MAC recruits.

Decommits are different ... really. If you are committed, be committed. If you made a mistake, decommit.

Don't just commit to make sure you bag your third choice.

 

[Hawk68]

Decommits are different ... really. If you are committed, be committed. If you made a mistake, decommit.

Don't just commit to make sure you bag your third choice.

Guess it has been too long since I took a logic course because the above is a head-scratcher.

 

[LeroyHawk]

Decommits are different ... really. If you are committed, be committed. If you made a mistake, decommit.

Don't just commit to make sure you bag your third choice.

Guess it has been too long since I took a logic course because the above is a head-scratcher.

I get what he's saying. Screwing around on your girlfriend... Not cool. Breaking up with your girlfriend, and then screwing around... Cool.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

I get what he's saying. Screwing around on your girlfriend... Not cool. Breaking up with your girlfriend, and then screwing around... Cool.

Exactly.

 

[HawkIDrummer]

I agree that once a recruit is committed he should not take (or ask) for other visits... But... on the same token, I also do not think Coaches should be allowed to schedule a visit with kids who have committed... What’s good for the recruit is good for the Coaches...

"by the same token"... but your point is good. That would be more of a coach's courtesy thing, as the kid still hasn't signed a LOI

 

[01Hawk05]

Many coaches are okay with kids taking visits even if they are committed. In those cases, I think it’s a matter of them being up front with the coach. Do you really want someone joining your program who is having second thoughts before they even set foot on campus? So why wouldn’t we allow a commit from another school to visit?

Iowa has simply said do not commit until you are 100% sure you want to be here. I think it is a great policy and is starting to pay dividends along with the early signing period.

 

[SWIowahawks]

Well said Maniac, couldn’t of put it better than that.. once committed should stay committed.. AKA... Melvin Gordon...

I’m pretty glad Jack Beneventi isn’t our QB this year.

 

[onionman1]

Well said Maniac, couldn’t of put it better than that.. once committed should stay committed.. AKA... Melvin Gordon...

Kirk has made it clear in the past that they never pursue a committed player unless that player gives Iowa permission to continue to contact him. If he says Iowa can, then they do. If he says to shut it down, then they do.

 

[brokenarrow73]

I think this has some merit ...










Replying to @_AlexGookin
Asking someone to not visit other places after you commit isn't a big ask. If you want to visit other places, fine don't commit, that's what the recruiting process is. But fans mad about this is like your GF's family being mad at you for asking her to stay faithful.

sorry I'm confused who are we talking about

 

[DEREKoh2]

I can't stand my ex-wife. Looking back, if there was an early signing period, I wouldn't sign an LOI. If I had an offer with an 'in house' visit, I wouldn't commit. If I received a car from a booster, the brakes never would be tested.

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

Here's how I see it...

Schools like Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan aren't going to give a ratsazz if an Indiana kid commits, then gives his home state Hoosiers a courtesy visit before signing day ...Kirk on the other hand, feels threatened.

It basically speaks to Kirk's insecurity imo.

If his rule was: "No visits to 'blue bloods' once you commit" then that would make more sense.

If Kirk felt more confident in Iowa's place in the conference pecking order, then an Indiana or Illinois kid visiting Illinois, NW, Indiana, Purdue or even Minnesota and Rutgers, wouldn't be an issue.

If I'm off base here, I'm sure some of you out there will let me know.

 

[MepoDawg#]

Here's how I see it...

Schools like Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan aren't going to give a ratsazz if an Indiana kid commits, then gives his home state Hoosiers a courtesy visit before signing day ...Kirk on the other hand, feels threatened.

It basically speaks to Kirk's insecurity imo.

If his rule was: "No visits to 'blue bloods' once you commit" then that would make more sense.

If Kirk felt more confident in Iowa's place in the conference pecking order, then an Indiana or Illinois kid visiting Illinois, NW, Indiana, Purdue or even Minnesota and Rutgers, wouldn't be an issue.

If I'm off base here, I'm sure some of you out there will let me know.

You are off base. Iowa says don’t commit unless 100% sure. If you’re 100% sure then why do you need to visit other schools. The insecurity is Iowa doesn’t want left at the alter then having to settle for someone they may not have even recruited to that point. I see nothing wrong with it.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Here's how I see it...

Schools like Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan aren't going to give a ratsazz if an Indiana kid commits, then gives his home state Hoosiers a courtesy visit before signing day ...Kirk on the other hand, feels threatened.

It basically speaks to Kirk's insecurity imo.

If his rule was: "No visits to 'blue bloods' once you commit" then that would make more sense.

If Kirk felt more confident in Iowa's place in the conference pecking order, then an Indiana or Illinois kid visiting Illinois, NW, Indiana, Purdue or even Minnesota and Rutgers, wouldn't be an issue.

If I'm off base here, I'm sure some of you out there will let me know.

I don't know if you are off base, but I disagree.

Just like any other school, Iowa has a finite amount of recruiting resources. Goodson just committed, and I'm sure the coaches have asked him to support that commitment by not taking other visits. Iowa, on the other hand, has likely stopped looking at RB's. If 2 months from now, Goodson says to the coaches, "I'm feeling that I shut down my recruiting to soon and would like to make some other visits". The coaches would probably say, "Ok, you still have an offer from us, but we're going to start looking for another RB, so your spot might not be available if you decide later to come here".

If you want to call that insecurity - go ahead. In my mind, he is making sure he get's the best RB he can get to fill that slot, and minimizes the late in the day surprises.

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

You are off base. Iowa says don’t commit unless 100% sure. If you’re 100% sure then why do you need to visit other schools. The insecurity is Iowa doesn’t want left at the alter then having to settle for someone they may not have even recruited to that point. I see nothing wrong with it.

Thanks, but shouldn't Iowa have at least a couple of solid back ups to make sure they're not left scrambling?

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

If you want to call that insecurity - go ahead. In my mind, he is making sure he get's the best RB he can get to fill that slot, and minimizes the late in the day surprises.

I agree with most of what you said, but even if a kid like Goodson initially agrees to shut down his recruiting, there is nothing in writing ....Alabama comes calling late in the process, I'm afraid we're still probably stuck scrambling.

 

[MepoDawg#]

Thanks, but shouldn't Iowa have at least a couple of solid back ups to make sure they're not left scrambling?

They should but if it happens close to signing day those 2nd and 3rd options most likely are not there.

 

[grayhair81]

I don't know if you are off base, but I disagree.

Just like any other school, Iowa has a finite amount of recruiting resources. Goodson just committed, and I'm sure the coaches have asked him to support that commitment by not taking other visits. Iowa, on the other hand, has likely stopped looking at RB's. If 2 months from now, Goodson says to the coaches, "I'm feeling that I shut down my recruiting to soon and would like to make some other visits". The coaches would probably say, "Ok, you still have an offer from us, but we're going to start looking for another RB, so your spot might not be available if you decide later to come here".

If you want to call that insecurity - go ahead. In my mind, he is making sure he get's the best RB he can get to fill that slot, and minimizes the late in the day surprises.

The only problem with your scenario is that once that goes down, Iowa cuts ties with the kid and moves on. They don't take the position "we are going to look for someone else in case you flip", they take the position the kid is no longer an option. In reality, they have been considering replacements all along and if they haven't they are foolish. And keeping with the engagement analogy: is it considered socially acceptable to court a woman who is engaged to be married? There was a time in our history that would have led to a duel. KF is a great human being but I disagree with his recruiting policies, including discouraging kids from taking officials during the season.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

The only problem with your scenario is that once that goes down, Iowa cuts ties with the kid and moves on. They don't take the position "we are going to look for someone else in case you flip", they take the position the kid is no longer an option. In reality, they have been considering replacements all along and if they haven't they are foolish. And keeping with the engagement analogy: is it considered socially acceptable to court a woman who is engaged to be married? There was a time in our history that would have led to a duel. KF is a great human being but I disagree with his recruiting policies, including discouraging kids from taking officials during the season.

I don't think that's true, is it? In Eno's case, he was making visits without telling the coaches. If a kid is upfront with them, I don't think they pull the offer - they just don't consider it a commitment any longer.

 

[kceasthawk]

Thanks, but shouldn't Iowa have at least a couple of solid back ups to make sure they're not left scrambling?

If its late in the process, like some of the guys who have flipped the last week or so, the solid backups are probably committed elsewhere. I fail to see how anyone could find fault with what happened with young Mr. Brock. He visited Iowa almost a half dozen times, but would not do an official as I understand it. Basically we told him the courtship had gone on long enough, and he should be able to decide by now. After taking the JUCO transfer we had one spot for a RB, and made it known to him we would fill the other spot with a committment at this time. He decided to hold off. His decision. I think KF was fine with either Goodson Or Brock, and took the one he felt really wanted to be a Hawk.

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

If its late in the process, like some of the guys who have flipped the last week or so, the solid backups are probably committed elsewhere. I fail to see how anyone could find fault with what happened with young Mr. Brock. He visited Iowa almost a half dozen times, but would not do an official as I understand it. Basically we told him the courtship had gone on long enough, and he should be able to decide by now. After taking the JUCO transfer we had one spot for a RB, and made it known to him we would fill the other spot with a committment at this time. He decided to hold off. His decision. I think KF was fine with either Goodson Or Brock, and took the one he felt really wanted to be a Hawk.

For the record I’m fine with what happened with Brock. We did him a favor. We were only taking one RB this class and someone snagged his offer.

 

[Hawk68]

This should be considered as one of most confusing, but well thought-out posts in a while.

 

[grayhair81]

I don't think that's true, is it? In Eno's case, he was making visits without telling the coaches. If a kid is upfront with them, I don't think they pull the offer - they just don't consider it a commitment any longer.

Correct on Eno. But Beau Corrales was up front with the coaches and they told him to move on. Gavin Holmes de-committed because he was mad about what he perceived as as a double standard in expectations. As in all things, most fans support the coaches in this. But outside the Iowa circle, most people see this as a double standard on the part of the coaching staff and it has been used against Iowa in recruiting.

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

Biggest issue is kids hitching a ride so they aren't left out of P5 football then waiting to see what else comes along

Welcome to Iowa State football. Fallback U

 

[rustynailhawk]

La Quinta, I understand your question and yes Kirk has made exceptions for in commits to visit their in state school ala Noah Fant. I think it isn’t ideal, but if you are honest our staff is open to it.

 

[ukiddinme]

I’m pretty glad Jack Beneventi isn’t our QB this year.

Soo dumb.. he would've left after a semester. Couldn't cut it, let alone crack the depth chart. Don't call it "commitment" if this continues. Herkmiester got it right. It's not a hard word to understand. Call it something else but it ain't a commitment when a kid does it to attract a better offer then bails.

 

[bumpstock]

Kid owns the Coach until the ink is on the paper; Coach owns the Kid after the ink is on the paper ~ KISS