No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
But did you watch CNN while you were there? That'd cinch the deal for me.
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No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Yes, absolutely ALL adults should make decisions for themselves. I mean, if you're too dumb to think for yourself, by all means let someone else think for you. But most humans aren't that dumb.
Are you a top cardiologist?
In no way would a school allow a student to play if they had heart inflammation. I suppose the student could go play football at Hubbard Park if he wanted to.Yes, absolutely ALL adults should make decisions for themselves. I mean, if you're too dumb to think for yourself, by all means let someone else think for you. But most humans aren't that dumb.
So anyway....is there a link to the announcement from last night?
So anyway....is there a link to the announcement from last night?
The doctor that ran the study says you are full of shit.In no way would a school allow a student to play if they had heart inflammation. I suppose the student could go play football at Hubbard Park if he wanted to.
It is obvious you didn't read his actual response being circulated yesterday.The doctor that ran the study says you are full of shit.
It is obvious you didn't read his actual response being circulated yesterday.
Did you read it?
"For those who test positive for myocarditis, he said, the standard protocol of rest for three months from rigorous physical activity applies. But those who test negative can resume after the COVID protocols are followed. "Sure thing smart man. It's obvious you have an agenda and want to cherry pick what he has stated. It's in the headline by the way.
Maybe you can quote the penn state doctor next that was also full of shit.
Minimum 3 weeks off after you test positive. Hopefully they keep the position groups separated.It's official. The B1G is back:
https://bigten.org/news/2020/9/16/t...ball-season-to-resume-october-23-24-2020.aspx
In no way would a school allow a student to play if they had heart inflammation. I suppose the student could go play football at Hubbard Park if he wanted to.
Really? Where did you see this? Maybe I missed it in the link..that seems crazy...21 days?Minimum 3 weeks off after you test positive. Hopefully they keep the position groups separated.
It's official. The B1G is back:
https://bigten.org/news/2020/9/16/t...ball-season-to-resume-october-23-24-2020.aspx
All COVID-19 positive student-athletes will have to undergo comprehensive cardiac testing to include labs and biomarkers, ECG, Echocardiogram and a Cardiac MRI. Following cardiac evaluation, student-athletes must receive clearance from a cardiologist designated by the university for the primary purpose of cardiac clearance for COVID-19 positive student-athletes. The earliest a student-athlete can return to game competition is 21 days following a COVID-19 positive diagnosis.Really? Where did you see this? Maybe I missed it in the link..that seems crazy...21 days?
They weren't necessarily football players.Well, we'll know within a month if there are four OSU players being held out. Something tells me there won't be.
They weren't necessarily football players.
Gotcha, thanks. What's the benchmark today? That seems like a very long time...All COVID-19 positive student-athletes will have to undergo comprehensive cardiac testing to include labs and biomarkers, ECG, Echocardiogram and a Cardiac MRI. Following cardiac evaluation, student-athletes must receive clearance from a cardiologist designated by the university for the primary purpose of cardiac clearance for COVID-19 positive student-athletes. The earliest a student-athlete can return to game competition is 21 days following a COVID-19 positive diagnosis.
Sometimes hard to discuss things here.So what you initially meant was that the non-football players shouldn't be playing football?
No idea. If they have myocarditis looks like SOP is three months off.Gotcha, thanks. What's the benchmark today? That seems like a very long time...
You keep throwing around 4/26.Sometimes hard to discuss things here.
4/26 athletes studied had myocarditis. All 4 were male, so more likely to be football players, but they didn't list any description of what specific sport.
Again, if anyone would read this crap they keep shoving around as proof we should be playing, you'd know this.
Would you rather we pause football and wait another six months to get more data? Or go with what we have. I mean that's the only study I've seen to date, you know of any others?You keep throwing around 4/26.
A sample size of 26 individuals in essentially worthless.
Sample Size = N > 30
30 is sort of an arbitrarily chosen number, but really, a good study should have a large sample size in order to account for standard deviation and statistical anomalies.
Neither, I'm not sure how you got that out of what I said other than just wanting to be argumentative.Would you rather we pause football and wait another six months to get more data? Or go with what we have. I mean that's the only study I've seen to date, you know of any others?
Terrible plan forward, and I'm glad it seems the B1G didn't follow your lead.Neither, I'm not sure how you got that out of what I said other than just wanting to be argumentative.
I'm saying we shouldn't be freaking out or clutching pearls over bad science.
Yes, absolutely ALL adults should make decisions for themselves. I mean, if you're too dumb to think for yourself, by all means let someone else think for you. But most humans aren't that dumb.
Have you been paying attention? its dropped by 7 percentage points in the past 2.5 weeks.Well hey, I guess we’re gonna try to play football.
though by the protocols I’m not sure how much Iowa will play unless our community positivity rate really drops in a month. Good for the Big Ten to actually put some stringent protocols in place....now will they actually be followed is the next thing.
Yes, adults should have aboslute freedom to do as they choose for themselves. Why dont you find me a doctor that says going to fight in a war is a wise health decision and report back. Or smoke. Or drink. Or sign up for a credit card on the first day of college. Or drive fast cars. Or eat garbage food. The list goes on and on of things we allow adults to choose for themselves regardless of how much self harm it may inflict.No thats ridiculous...you think a "adult" of 18-22 should be able to override that of a cardiologist to play football?? Esp for something that could kill him immediately and would resolve in ~ 3 months if left alone...
No humans are just that dumb and you just proved it.
No thats ridiculous...you think a "adult" of 18-22 should be able to override that of a cardiologist to play football?? Esp for something that could kill him immediately and would resolve in ~ 3 months if left alone...
No humans are just that dumb and you just proved it.
"For those who test positive for myocarditis, he said, the standard protocol of rest for three months from rigorous physical activity applies. But those who test negative can resume after the COVID protocols are followed. "
There you go tuff guy.
Dumbest athlete ever if they continue to practice with heart issues.Adults override doctors every day. In fact, in many medical circumstances, doctors provide patients a variety of potential treatments due to verying degress of invasiveness/side effects/efficacy, etc. In ALL cases patients make decsions.
I have a friend who is battling prostate cancer. When first diagonsed he was given 5 different options with the upside/downside of each explained to him, and asked how HE would like to proceed. This isn't uncommon, and yes it's a potentially deadly condition.
Don't confuse your inability to think for yourself as being an affliction shared by others.
You have no solid rebuttal for whatever you're trying to prove, so now you get some random generalities so you can feel better behind your keyboard.Mr drama calling someone tuff guy...hey if they test positive for cancer they need to probably not play and go for treatment.
Dumbest athlete ever if they continue to practice with heart issues.