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Baylor is a 14.5 point favorite over Iowa

Iowa women have their hands full... they have a big team I believe a 6’6 player and a 6’5 and some other notables... plus they’ve been beaten just one time this year.. I truly hope Meg has the game of her life and the women can pull off a shocker. If the lady Hawks can get by Baylor I think they can win it all.
 
Baylor is the #1 team in college womens for a reason. They are just plain tough. I am thinking Iowa St played them three times and got beat by double digits each time with only once being close in the 4th qtr.

Meg could have the game of her career and the team still come up short. Iowa's supporting cast will need to be very good for the Hawks to be in the game.



QUOTE="Hawkeyeinsoutherncalifornia, post: 6424175, member: 86939"]Iowa women have their hands full... they have a big team I believe a 6’6 player and a 6’5 and some other notables... plus they’ve been beaten just one time this year.. I truly hope Meg has the game of her life and the women can pull off a shocker. If the lady Hawks can get by Baylor I think they can win it all.[/QUOTE]
 
This year's man child belongs to Mississippi State's center, but they are out of the Final Four. Baylor's center is as tall, but not as mannish. A better player, though.
 
I suspect the Baylor Bigs will do everything in their power to beat down Megan, whether legal or not. The key will be for our periphery players to step up and have big games and for Megan to do her best.

14.5 points is a lot to overcome
 
I suspect the Baylor Bigs will do everything in their power to beat down Megan, whether legal or not. The key will be for our periphery players to step up and have big games and for Megan to do her best.

14.5 points is a lot to overcome
Megan has to stay out of foul trouble or this will be over early. I hope Iowa puts it to those jerks.
 
Baylor is the #1 team in college womens for a reason. They are just plain tough.

I would be shocked if it is still a game at half time. Baylor is way better than any team this Iowa team has beaten. Baylor's recruiting highlights how far behind the Big Ten is. In the last 4 years, Baylor has more ESPN-rated top 20 players than the entire Big Ten combined, including Maryland.

I'm still hoping that MG can get to 1,000 points for the year, which would also get her to 2,800 for her career.
 
Since Baylor's second national championship and 40-0 record in 2012, Baylor has won 30+ games in 7 straight years. Also, Baylor failed to reach Final Four in 6 straight tournaments. Will this year be their final breakthrough, or will they be the habitual chokers that they have been again? No wonder Kim Mulkey felt slighted and had to rant to the sideline reporter when Baylor won this year's Big 12 tournament. It's the impression that they themselves made to the audience.
 
It could be the case that the NCAA comes in and shuts down the
Baylor Athletic program before the game starts, too.

And if not, either way, I see the IOWA HAWKEYES taking this game in a
close finish for Baylor..........I look for a big game from
Kathleen Doyle
 
I am a Hawkeye fan and huge MG fan but I think they are going to hammer her early and often, they have enough beef inside to just punish her, unless our Three point shooting is blistering we will have a hard time hanging with Baylors offense. No matter the outcome, i am still very proud of how this team performed and this will only help our recruiting efforts. Parity in women's sports is the key for fans to watch. When you get a whole new audience simply because Iowa is playing, it makes this sport better. That goes for all women's sports and i guess any sports in general. People get tired of the same champion over and over (I.E New England Patriots, or Alabama) only their fans are happy and the rest of the country hates them. I know I know beat the best to be the best, but it hurts the sport. I truely hope Iowa plays the game of a lifetime, like Villanova vs Georgetown. Go Hawks!
 
Well, in the Elite 8 games yesterday, both 2 seeds advanced over the 1 seeds....

Parity is sloooowly coming to the women's game. It's taking a longer time than I thought, but it's getting there. On one level, simply a good game is a victory for the NCAA women's hoops. It's absurd to have a 1 v 2 matchup with the 1 seed favored by almost 15 points.
 
I am a Hawkeye fan and huge MG fan but I think they are going to hammer her early and often, they have enough beef inside to just punish her, unless our Three point shooting is blistering we will have a hard time hanging with Baylors offense. No matter the outcome, i am still very proud of how this team performed and this will only help our recruiting efforts. Parity in women's sports is the key for fans to watch. When you get a whole new audience simply because Iowa is playing, it makes this sport better. That goes for all women's sports and i guess any sports in general. People get tired of the same champion over and over (I.E New England Patriots, or Alabama) only their fans are happy and the rest of the country hates them. I know I know beat the best to be the best, but it hurts the sport. I truely hope Iowa plays the game of a lifetime, like Villanova vs Georgetown. Go Hawks!

Isn't that what was going to happen vs NC State and their Very
Tall center? Didn't slow Megan down much, did it?

GOHAWKS !! :)
 
Well, in the Elite 8 games yesterday, both 2 seeds advanced over the 1 seeds....

Parity is sloooowly coming to the women's game. It's taking a longer time than I thought, but it's getting there. On one level, simply a good game is a victory for the NCAA women's hoops. It's absurd to have a 1 v 2 matchup with the 1 seed favored by almost 15 points.

You are right, it's coming. But will take more time and there will be dominant teams in the women's game for the forseeable future. The 15 scholarship limit instead of 13 in the men's game doesn't help. The great teams can stockpile more of the limited top shelf talent.

Baylor is very, very good. Not sure how Iowa can realistically keep it close, but that's why they play the games.
 
Isn't that what was going to happen vs NC State and their Very
Tall center? Didn't slow Megan down much, did it?

GOHAWKS !! :)
Baylor is much bigger, faster, more athletic and better than NC State. The Hawkeyes are going to have to play the best games of their lives to keep it close. Baylor's team is chock full of great athletes.
 
Baylor is much bigger, faster, more athletic and better than NC State. The Hawkeyes are going to have to play the best games of their lives to keep it close. Baylor's team is chock full of great athletes.

Again, think that's what they have been saying about
Maryland and NC State, when Hawkeyes faced and dropped them.
Yawn.........

GO HAWKS !!! :)
 
I am hoping for just two things: 1) we don't lose the game as soon as we see those Baylor uniforms (intimidation) and 2) we can play "fast" without hurrying! If our team can do these things, we get past two big hurdles. Hours before the game and I am getting nervous myself. Go Hawks, climb the mountain!!!!
 
It's arguably as important for Kathleen to stay out of foul trouble as it is for Megan. Kathleen's on-ball aggressiveness and off-ball activity, regardless of what defense they're in, is a huge factor for this team. As I've said before, the reason Lisa can mix in the triangle-and-two is because Kathleen is able to pretty much zone the entire top of the floor by herself.

Kathleen is incredible how she fücks with the other team's offense. She jumps, and fake jumps, passing lanes, forcing hesitations and more defensive passing—this allows precious time for the rest of the Iowa zone (whether 2-3 or the triangle-and-2) to shift into balance—causing all kinds of rhythm disruptions regardless if she gets deflections or steals.

She really is amazing when she is unlimited by fouls. Conversely, when fouls restrict her, she can double-cross herself with her own timidness—she sort of second-guesses herself and ends up behind plays, putting her in position to get whistled for yet more fouls.

She's the same way with her offense. She makes an early jumper, whether three or pull-up, watch out. Misses a few early, she gets into her head. Hell, this is even true in warm-ups. I watch her closely partly because I was the same way at her age. In warm-ups she has a reaction for every shot. She gets inflated by makes and always has some deflated reaction on misses. This mental-ness leads to streaky shooting. The good news is hot streaks occur from time to time, bad news is cold streaks occur just as much—often more. She's been cold the last few games. Hopefully today she gets rolling.

But please, please Kathleen, please don't pick up a silly foul in the first 5 minutes.
 
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Is Mulkey a jackwagon on a personal level? Probably. Arrogant? Yes. That being said her roster is full of talent and she is a great coach despite her personality issues. Most of us thought the Elite 8 was where our ladies would meet their match. One last thing, GO HAWKS!!!
 
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PLEASE stop with the 'dudes' on the other team comments or any other Don Imus-type stupidity that may be coming. Regardless of how you feel about the school or Mulkey, Baylor players are just kids trying to win a ballgame. Please show some class. Don't let nastiness take away from a special season and a special bunch of Iowa players.
 
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Iowa women have their hands full... they have a big team I believe a 6’6 player and a 6’5 and some other notables... plus they’ve been beaten just one time this year.. I truly hope Meg has the game of her life and the women can pull off a shocker. If the lady Hawks can get by Baylor I think they can win it all.
They're good, but ISU stayed with them well into the fourth quarter.

And the coach has never been confused with Mother Teresa.
 
They're good, but ISU stayed with them well into the fourth quarter.

And the coach has never been confused with Mother Teresa.

The third time you played them? What happened the first two times?

ISU played them three times with the first two really not very competitive at all and the last one with them being competitive until the start of the fourth quarter, but still lost that game by 18 points.

Iowa will have to play perfect to have a shot.
 
It's arguably as important for Kathleen to stay out of foul trouble as it is for Megan. Kathleen's on-ball aggressiveness and off-ball activity, regardless of what defense they're in, is a huge factor for this team. As I've said before, the reason Lisa can mix in the triangle-and-two is because Kathleen is able to pretty much zone the entire top of the floor by herself.

Kathleen is incredible how she fücks with the other team's offense. She jumps, and fake jumps, passing lanes, forcing hesitations and more defensive passing—this allows precious time for the rest of the Iowa zone (whether 2-3 or the triangle-and-2) to shift into balance—causing all kinds of rhythm disruptions regardless if she gets deflections or steals.

She really is amazing when she is unlimited by fouls. Conversely, when fouls restrict her, she can double-cross herself with her own timidness—she sort of second-guesses herself and ends up behind plays, putting her in position to get whistled for yet more fouls.

She's the same way with her offense. She makes an early jumper, whether three or pull-up, watch out. Misses a few early, she gets into her head. Hell, this is even true in warm-ups. I watch her closely partly because I was the same way at her age. In warm-ups she has a reaction for every shot. She gets inflated by makes and always has some deflated reaction on misses. This mental-ness leads to streaky shooting. The good news is hot streaks occur from time to time, bad news is cold streaks occur just as much—often more. She's been cold the last few games. Hopefully today she gets rolling.

But please, please Kathleen, please don't pick up a silly foul in the first 5 minutes.

You're right about Kathleen's defense. We'll need her to be a pest the entire game if we want to keep it close. If I were coaching, I'd throw traditional foul management out the window for this one. If you get two fouls in the first half, you stay in. Same with 4 in the second. We can't afford to be without our best players for any substantial length of time. Better to foul out going 100% than to be down 10-20 in the 4th because we benched players or because players weren't as aggressive defensively. Not picking up silly fouls will be vital.
 
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You're right about Kathleen's defense. We'll need her to be a pest the entire game if we want to keep it close. If I were coaching, I'd throw traditional foul management out the window for this one. If you get two fouls in the first half, you stay in. Same with 4 in the second. We can't afford to be without our best players for any substantial length of time. Better to foul out going 100% than to be down 10-20 in the 4th because we benched players or because players weren't as aggressive defensively. Not picking up silly fouls will be vital.
Or I would sub Zion Sanders in for Kathleen midway through the first, just for a minute or so, and tell Zion to play super-aggressive defense. The same shit happens most games. Refs let teams play the first four or five minutes, then they feel a need to assert "control" and so they call a few fouls that previously weren't worthy of a whistle. Let Zion absorb that, and maybe she makes a play or two in the process. Or even Tomi. Almost like offense/defense substitution but much, much earlier in the game.

If I'm Lisa I'm at least considering this type of thing. Zion is a good defender and not prone to turnovers. And she's a strong, good athlete. Use her to absorb a few minutes and hopefully a few of the fouls Kathleen might otherwise pick up.
 
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Or I would sub Zion Sanders in for Kathleen midway through the first, just for a minute or so, and tell Zion to play super-aggressive defense. The same shit happens most games. Refs let teams play the first four or five minutes, then they feel a need to assert "control" and so they call a few fouls that previously weren't worthy of a whistle. Let Zion absorb that, and maybe she makes a play or two in the process. Or even Tomi. Almost like offense/defense substitution but much, much earlier in the game.

If I'm Lisa I'm at least considering this type of thing. Zion is a good defender and not prone to turnovers. And she's a strong, good athlete. Use her to absorb a few minutes and hopefully a few of the fouls Kathleen might otherwise pick up.

I forget which thread bench sizes were being discussed, but things like what you mentioned are a great way to expand the bench. Zion clearly wasn't going to be part of the regular rotation in conference play. Instead of benching her for every game, work out a way that she can come in for a few minutes each game and just harass a team's best offensive guard. If she gets a foul or two, so what? It'd help the starters stay better rested, while adding a more aggressive defender for a few minutes. And she would probably embrace the role and work even harder to be a better defender that can help the team.
 
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I forget which thread bench sizes were being discussed, but things like what you mentioned are a great way to expand the bench. Zion clearly wasn't going to be part of the regular rotation in conference play. Instead of benching her for every game, work out a way that she can come in for a few minutes each game and just harass a team's best offensive guard. If she gets a foul or two, so what? It'd help the starters stay better rested, while adding a more aggressive defender for a few minutes. And she would probably embrace the role and work even harder to be a better defender that can help the team.
Yep, and capitalize on the investment made into Zion when Kathleen was out with the hand injury. Zion played well, and with consistency. Sort of a missed opportunity, but who knows, maybe she'll get a chance tonight.
 
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