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Better tailgate atmosphere? Iowa or ISU?

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How would one have criteria for what is best when it comes to tailgating? Isn't best without agreed upon criteria nothing more than an opinion?

To me this is a meaningless debate. About as meaningful as strength of schedule or enrollment figures.
 
Of course it is opinion. I see positives with both places.

ISU is easier to get in and out and mostly in one place.

Iowa has a better atmosphere IMO. Feels more like college football.

ISU feels the same as going to a concert and tailgating before you go in.
 
Five years ago I would have said hands down that Iowa had the better environment. Walking along Melrose ... you could feel the energy in the air ... As a former 10-year season ticket holder (ending after 2012) ... the tailgate environment changed ... Too many rent-a-cops ... Melrose vendors disappearing ... More tailgating spots closing ... And of course, we haven't been winning on the field.

ISU is easier to tailgate at ... Iowa still has the atmosphere edge ... I would still give the edge to Iowa for overall experience ...
 
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Five years ago I would have said hands down that Iowa had the better environment. Walking along Melrose ... you could feel the energy in the air ... As a former 10-year season ticket holder (ending after 2012) ... the tailgate environment changed ... Too many rent-a-cops ... Melrose vendors disappearing ... More tailgating spots closing ... And of course, we haven't been winning on the field.

ISU is easier to tailgate at ... Iowa still has the atmosphere edge ... I would still give the edge to Iowa for overall experience ...
I would agree with this except i havent noticed the rentacop thing. Immediately after Sally Mason's crackdown season? Sure, not after that though.

I've been to way more ISU games the last 8-9 years and they have a festive and friendly atmosphere but they just don't have the energy.
 
By rentacops I presume you mean hired Law Enforcement Officers? Is this 2011 again?

I'd like to read your specific complaints regarding these rentacops, thanks in advance!
 
I see thousands of people walking down Melrose with an open container before every home game.
 
I would agree with this except i havent noticed the rentacop thing. Immediately after Sally Mason's crackdown season? Sure, not after that though.

I've been to way more ISU games the last 8-9 years and they have a festive and friendly atmosphere but they just don't have the energy.
My comment about the rentacops ... was just one contributing factor ... and it did seem to lighten up a bit after the initial push to crack down on alcohol. It happened to be a major turn off for me. I am in my 40s and had friends of similar age where the "cops" would walk right into our tent and make us pour out any bottle of alcohol that was sitting out ... We were never what you would consider a rowdy bunch. Again, it contributed to the overall experience. Kinnick is still an awesome place to be on game day ... I don't miss my season tickets but may try to make a game this year.
 
I would challenge the thousands of people walking down the Kinnick side of Melrose drinking from an open container, last year we walked up from the church, told my sister to finish her beer before we hit Melrose, walked down Melrose, crossed the street by Krause pavilion opened our beer and within a minute I heard the 'folks, folks....folks, don't make me stop you' made us dump that beer out on the Kinnick side of the sidewalk, so it still happens, no ticket just cost me the two beers, not nearly as bad as the Green/Mason debacle year but still out there.
 
I would challenge the thousands of people walking down the Kinnick side of Melrose drinking from an open container, last year we walked up from the church, told my sister to finish her beer before we hit Melrose, walked down Melrose, crossed the street by Krause pavilion opened our beer and within a minute I heard the 'folks, folks....folks, don't make me stop you' made us dump that beer out on the Kinnick side of the sidewalk, so it still happens, no ticket just cost me the two beers, not nearly as bad as the Green/Mason debacle year but still out there.

Been to fair share of Iowa road games in the big 10. And just like melrose and Iowa their cops don't allow fans to walk on the streets with open containers like the Vegas strip either. And just like Iowa once you got on their lots off the streets can walk wherever with an open beer. Was it nice when they allowed it on Melrose, you bet, but since they don't anymore it's not that big of an adjustment to not drink for 10-15 minutes walking somewhere.
 
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Been to fair share of Iowa road games in the big 10. And just like melrose and Iowa their cops don't allow fans to walk on the streets with open containers like the Vegas strip either. And just like Iowa once you got on their lots off the streets can walk wherever with an open beer. Was it nice when they allowed it on Melrose, you bet, but since they don't anymore it's not that big of an adjustment to not drink for 10-15 minutes walking somewhere.
My experience too.

Stop crying ppl. You sound like Nebraska fans living in the past. There is nothing wrong with Iowas tailgate. Just some that don't like change and want to complain
 
Got in huge argument with my Cyclone buddy about this, the only thing I'd give ISU is their tailgate area is better than ours. Other than that "Smoke on the Water" isn't coming close to "Back in Black"
 
Too funny, he asked for peoples opinion, doesn't get the answer he's looking for, so tells them to stop crying...smh
 
I would agree with this except i havent noticed the rentacop thing. Immediately after Sally Mason's crackdown season? Sure, not after that though.

I've been to way more ISU games the last 8-9 years and they have a festive and friendly atmosphere but they just don't have the energy.
I have been to a lot more ISU games in the last few years thanks to immediate family being season ticket holders and I'd agree on the atmosphere you describe, although every year there is at least one game (excluding Iowa) where the atmosphere is pretty great (Pre-kickoff and Early in the Baylor game was a loud environment)
 
Cops may hassle some people, but I definitely see many many many open containers on Melrose every home game.
 
I think it depends on what you're looking for. The atmospheres and venues are pretty much completely different.
 
Barta "DESTROYED" the west parking lot by taking out tents. It's not even full anymore. IT SUCKS!!!! Iowa State wins hands down. And they have a better game day experience too. It kills me to say this, but, that's what happens when the AD takes his eye off the ball and sells out to big money.

Oh................and what happens? TICKET SALES GO DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
My comment about the rentacops ... was just one contributing factor ... and it did seem to lighten up a bit after the initial push to crack down on alcohol. It happened to be a major turn off for me. I am in my 40s and had friends of similar age where the "cops" would walk right into our tent and make us pour out any bottle of alcohol that was sitting out ... We were never what you would consider a rowdy bunch. Again, it contributed to the overall experience. Kinnick is still an awesome place to be on game day ... I don't miss my season tickets but may try to make a game this year.

So 4 years ago?
 
Barta "DESTROYED" the west parking lot by taking out tents. It's not even full anymore. IT SUCKS!!!! Iowa State wins hands down. And they have a better game day experience too. It kills me to say this, but, that's what happens when the AD takes his eye off the ball and sells out to big money.

Oh................and what happens? TICKET SALES GO DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just to clarify, are you talking about the highest donor lot just west of press box? What is that, 150 spots?
 
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I would challenge the thousands of people walking down the Kinnick side of Melrose drinking from an open container, last year we walked up from the church, told my sister to finish her beer before we hit Melrose, walked down Melrose, crossed the street by Krause pavilion opened our beer and within a minute I heard the 'folks, folks....folks, don't make me stop you' made us dump that beer out on the Kinnick side of the sidewalk, so it still happens, no ticket just cost me the two beers, not nearly as bad as the Green/Mason debacle year but still out there.

I presume you are talking about the bridge, literally the only place where they go that. You can walk from Finkbine to the bridge, throw it away, cross the bridge, and then open an entire 30 pack on the other side.

Unless you think that everyone outside Stella's who is buying canned beer from the sidewalk is being harassed?

Plus, I'm not even sure where you are talking about, considering you can drink in the west lot and I presume Krause. The other side is private.

I'm not calling you a liar, I'm saying you are in some small, small minority based on my, and every person I've talked to since 2011 experience.
 
I enjoy Iowa more than ISU when it comes to taulgating. Just feels more like college football.

I don't think it's as enjoyable as it used to be, but honestly I think part of that is how Iowa has been playing.
 
Tailgating in Iowa City isn't what it once was...and neither am I. Iowa State is like UNI only bigger on a home game Saturday.
 
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I think it depends on what you're looking for. The atmospheres and venues are pretty much completely different.

Completely different is right. One stadium still has a majority of its fans that show up for the 2nd half and the other doesn't.
In fact I am just waiting for the revolutionary "marketing" ploy from isu to sell more season tickets where you don't to buy the whole game but just one half. That way Pollard can go back to discounting season tickets in order to boastfully claim a record number of season tickets sold.

Of course LC will tell us how it really is.
 
Barta "DESTROYED" the west parking lot by taking out tents. It's not even full anymore. IT SUCKS!!!! Iowa State wins hands down. And they have a better game day experience too. It kills me to say this, but, that's what happens when the AD takes his eye off the ball and sells out to big money.

Oh................and what happens? TICKET SALES GO DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude, have you been to an ISU game lately? By the end of October the stadium is 3/4th's filled if that. They have some of the worst fair-weather fans...literally, bad weather moves in they're OUT. But those who stay I have respect for.
 
I presume you are talking about the bridge, literally the only place where they go that. You can walk from Finkbine to the bridge, throw it away, cross the bridge, and then open an entire 30 pack on the other side.

Unless you think that everyone outside Stella's who is buying canned beer from the sidewalk is being harassed?

Plus, I'm not even sure where you are talking about, considering you can drink in the west lot and I presume Krause. The other side is private.

I'm not calling you a liar, I'm saying you are in some small, small minority based on my, and every person I've talked to since 2011 experience.
You can call me a liar if you like. It was the sidewalk in front of the Krause pavilion, was told it was university property and we couldn't drink there. I pointed out the people in the pavilion with beer. Just an FYI that is where the Kinnick statue is located. The atmosphere has changed, not to the extent that the first crackdown had, when Marion cops were the role models . Maybe it's the uninspiring football that is contributing to it.
 
For ease and sterility it is ISU for sure. Nice to be able to find people easy and lots of room but there is zero character and uniqueness.

Iowa is more what CFB should feel like. 5 years ago I would have said it was one of the best in the whole country but we all know how the Mason regime played out. Hoping they can get that back
 
My experience with the police is that my attitude determines their attitude. I've not had a problem and I've been told to quit drinking, quit smoking, and use the portapots.
 
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I think fans ruined Olive Court. It used to be a great spot but people just started trashing the place. It looked like a war zone post game.
 
I think fans ruined Olive Court. It used to be a great spot but people just started trashing the place. It looked like a war zone post game.

When they shut down the Field House lot to students they all moved to Olive Ct and ruined that for the over 25 crowd. Damn shame as Olive Ct was the best
 
They put condo's up where olive ct was right? It's not even there any more?
 
I have no interest in ever going to a game at ISU. I just feel like their entire fan base is a bunch of turds. I will say that the overall Iowa game experience is very stale these days. There is no energy in Kinnick anymore. I try to get fired up but there are so many people that just want to sit there and do nothing. Granted, we are 10-12 in the last 3 years or something like that so maybe the atmosphere stinks because we are completely average.
 
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