Could be.
I think Michelle Obama is the only person who can save the Ds from the Harris mess.
Biden’s numbers collapsing among the young
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I think Michelle Obama is the only person who can save the Ds from the Harris mess.
Meh…..I don’t think the Ds love Harris, that’s why she was out pretty early in the primaries.
I do concede that something needs to be done to curb the out of control costs at colleges and universities.
I graduated from a private university. My senior year the tuition/room and board cost exactly half of my first salary straight out of school.
Today, the starting salary of that same job equals the cost to attend the same school.
Things are out of whack.
I graduated from a private university. My senior year the tuition/room and board cost exactly half of my first salary straight out of school.
Today, the starting salary of that same job equals the cost to attend the same school.
Things are out of whack.
EVERY Republican and TWO Democrats are blocking any progress. But we can go on ignoring the deficit being cut and unemployment being down. Ignore being respected again on the world stage, not to mention our president being the leader of the free world again. I’ve about given up on my country. We’re almost finished as what I thought we were.
This is what we get for electing a lifelong useless person as president. The guy has never built anything or created a job in his entire life.
No…the young are against this socialism for the wealthy. That’s what we have here. They’re sick of American greed.
You're just made that you can't break the filibuster.
America has survived for almost 250 years. It's not in need of your agenda driven transformation.
Those two Dems may be responsible for any chances the Dems have in maintaining majorities in either chamber. They have $1.9 T to spend.......let's get spending that first! YOU JUST CANNOT KEEP GIVING AWAY $$ without paying the piper. Manchin was never the problem.....he was perhaps the only guy in the Senate who looked at the problem objectively and not thru a political lense.
I have no problem with delaying payments on the student debts while a discussion is had. If cancellation is going to happen the entire thing must be tied to a bill that revamps student debt completely. We cannot just get current debt to zero and then start putting new kids on the books.
I just mean that I don’t think she’s some automatic heir apparent if Biden decides not to run again. If Biden does run again, then I think she’s sort of out - she’d have a really hard time being a challenger to him.
The suicide wing of the liberal party thinks everybody should vote straight line liberal forever because some rednecks stormed the capital.
if the Libs can’t even count on the Starbucks tweed jacket crowd they are F’’d.
Here’s the way I see it:
Biden runs again but replaces Harris: big trouble
Biden doesn’t run and the party/DNC doesn’t line up behind Harris: big trouble
Biden doesn’t run and the party does line up behind Harris and excludes others: big trouble.
Bottom line, I think Biden stuck with Harris for better or worse.
I don’t think there are many scenarios where a Biden/Harris ticket wins in 2024 and I think the Ds know that.
Disciplined? What? He's a hot head who throws hissy fits when things aren't to his liking.
If trump runs he might. Their are more democrat party leaders that want trump to run than their are Republican Party leaders. Strange days.
On messaging and execution. I agree personality is not his strong suit.
That said, what we might consider hissy fits many voters find appealing.
For many young people, capitalism hasn’t embraced them. It has chewed them up and spit them out, so of course they are looking to other options.
To add to that, consider that our schools have convinced our children for decades that they have to go to college after high school to get a job and student loans follow what would be considered predatory lending practices in any other realm pumping more money in for students to try to attend college. Thest two combined have increased demand for colleges, which leads to increased prices by the law of supply and demand.
So what we end up with is a couple of generations of young people that have massive sums of student debt, many of whom should have never gone to college in the first place. I could go on and on with the cascading effects of all of this, but we know the story. So, of course getting rid of student debt is their main shiny object in politics, similar to old people and their social security/Medicare being their #1 thing. Those are the most important aspects in their lives that the government has control over.
Most kindergartners look disciplined when compared to Trump.
Maybe…but I think just falling back on anti-Trump sentiment to get people out is a poor strategy. If I had to bet right now, I would bet that Biden is not part of the eventual 2024 D ticket. I think he won’t run, but if he does, I think he’ll lose the primary.
NeedED. The voting bloc changes a lot in 4 years. Gen Z are more liberal than my generation (millennials) and will start to flex their power in 2024.
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But this thread is about poll numbers showing Biden's collapse among those groups.
They might not like Biden but they despise Republicans
Ok…the Dems only win when the youthful and minorities are energized and excited about their candidates. They currently are not. And the Hispanics are probably not coming back for a while.
So, they will all stay at home and Dems will lose. It’s how it works. Disliking one side more than the other means nothing on Election Day.
It might be, but I think the bigger risk is votes going to third party candidates like 2016. From my experience, the college aged generation is very politically engaged
In 2020, it was absolutely virulent on the left against Trump and all groups had stuff to hope for with Biden. If those younger demographic groups don’t feel like Biden accomplished anything, there will be less energy to just go out and vote against Trump….and you know without a doubt that Trump’s base will turn out.
Hey everybody, the Wet Blanket of HROT joined us. Welcome Tim!! Try not to suck the energy out of the place
So... Harris? it’ll be a landslide for the GOP.
Bypass Harris? Depresses D turnout.
Difficult situation.
