PSU at Carver Jan 28. This works out...I believe PSU owed us one anyways.![]()
I’m hopeful to attend that one. Thinking about going to the Minnesota dual as well to see Gable.
No, I’m good, already have some.Might as well go whole hog and buy some gear too![]()
PSU at Carver Jan 28. This works out...I believe PSU owed us one anyways.![]()
Good research. Let's find away to get this dual on ESPN.Don't think PSU owed Iowa one unless I missed something. In fact, I thought it might be at Penn State this year but, except for the dual being postponed last year, this fits the "recent rotation". Based on a quick look back, including the upcoming match, over the last 10 seasons Iowa/PSU will have had 7 duals with 5 having been held at Iowa.
21 @Iowa
20 postponed
19 @Iowa
18 no match
17 @Penn State
16 Iowa
15 no match
14 @Penn State
13 @Iowa
12 @Iowa
Don't think PSU owed Iowa one unless I missed something. In fact, I thought it might be at Penn State this year but, except for the dual being postponed last year, this fits the "recent rotation". Based on a quick look back, including the upcoming match, over the last 10 seasons Iowa/PSU will have had 7 duals with 5 having been held at Iowa.
21 @Iowa
20 postponed
19 @Iowa
18 no match
17 @Penn State
16 Iowa
15 no match
14 @Penn State
13 @Iowa
12 @Iowa
This is going to be a nice rating event for BTN. No way they’re letting it go.Good research. Let's find away to get this dual on ESPN.
This is going to be a nice rating event for BTN. No way they’re letting it go.
Full capacity. Paid for my season tickets yesterday.Anybody know what the fan situation at Carver will be like yet? Full capacity? Mask/Vax requirement?
Even though that'll be the biggest dual in the country this year, there's still only about 0.05% of people in the US who know anything or care about wrestling at all.Serious TV question that just popped into my head since BTN is owned by Fox. Has there ever been any wrestling events on FS1? I know that they are occasionally on the regional FoxSports channels, but can't think of seeing any on the national network. If they are trying to compete with ESPN, you would think they would try to pick up some select duals where there is already the Fox connection and a national brand.
No need to travel north, you can see Gable at any Iowa home wrestling eventI’m hopeful to attend that one. Thinking about going to the Minnesota dual as well to see Gable.
Even though that'll be the biggest dual in the country this year, there's still only about 0.05% of people in the US who know anything or care about wrestling at all.
Cornhole tournaments get put on ESPN before wrestling. That should tell you something.
Wrestling is the third highest rated sport on BTN.Even though that'll be the biggest dual in the country this year, there's still only about 0.05% of people in the US who know anything or care about wrestling at all.
Cornhole tournaments get put on ESPN before wrestling. That should tell you something.
... and 2013 was not part of the regular season or B10 schedule. We had to even get a single-meet ticket for that one.Don't think PSU owed Iowa one unless I missed something. In fact, I thought it might be at Penn State this year but, except for the dual being postponed last year, this fits the "recent rotation". Based on a quick look back, including the upcoming match, over the last 10 seasons Iowa/PSU will have had 7 duals with 5 having been held at Iowa.
21 @Iowa
20 postponed
19 @Iowa
18 no match
17 @Penn State
16 Iowa
15 no match
14 @Penn State
13 @Iowa
12 @Iowa
Is it more watched than womens bball or is that bunched in with mens?Wrestling is the third highest rated sport on BTN.
I’m not sure. I haven’t seen the sports breakdown. Just going off this article in the Register. Either way, wrestling is a nice sport for them.Is it more watched than womens bball or is that bunched in with mens?
Yeah I'm pretty sure it's correct. I looked at both the Iowa and PSU sites and both allow you to look at prior years. They both say the same thing. There's a dropdown on the right side at the top of the schedule. The fact that the dual is scheduled to be at Iowa this year makes me think that the schedules must be determined well in advance (prior to last year's postponement) - the schedule makers likely anticipated that since the dual was set to be at PSU last year it would therefore shift to Iowa this coming season. https://hawkeyesports.com/sports/wrestling/schedule/season/2021-22/You sure about this data? Cause I could have swore that they owed us.
Yeah I'm pretty sure it's correct. I looked at both the Iowa and PSU sites and both allow you to look at prior years. They both say the same thing. There's a dropdown on the right side at the top of the schedule. The fact that the dual is scheduled to be at Iowa this year makes me think that the schedules must be determined well in advance (prior to last year's postponement) - the schedule makers likely anticipated that since the dual was set to be at PSU last year it would therefore shift to Iowa this coming season. https://hawkeyesports.com/sports/wrestling/schedule/season/2021-22/
I’m a lifelong huge fan of wrestling, and I’m definitely not knocking the sport. I live 5 1/2 hours from IC and have season tickets.Wrestling is the third highest rated sport on BTN.
I don’t disagree with you, but I think wrestling is just a slightly better draw than you think. It’s never going to compete with football and basketball, but even on the B1G it’s already a bigger draw than hockey and baseball.I’m a lifelong huge fan of wrestling, and I’m definitely not knocking the sport. I live 5 1/2 hours from IC and have season tickets.
But it’s just not a national draw sport. I’ve done a whole lot of traveling all over this country and unfortunately wrestling is a hyper regional fan base. Even in states with elite wrestling programs it’s hard to find fans. I’d say Iowa is about the only state where everyone knows how good and how historic our wrestling program is, even among those who don’t follow it.
Places like Oklahoma and Pennsylvania are even tough to find fans randomly, obviously because there are tons of elite college sports, pro sports, and huge metropolitan areas.
You just won’t ever get wrestling to catch hold in those big markets, so it gets relegated to networks like Big Ten. Which is ok with me, I’ll still buy tickets and watch when it’s on TV.
I’m a lifelong huge fan of wrestling, and I’m definitely not knocking the sport. I live 5 1/2 hours from IC and have season tickets.
But it’s just not a national draw sport. I’ve done a whole lot of traveling all over this country and unfortunately wrestling is a hyper regional fan base. Even in states with elite wrestling programs it’s hard to find fans. I’d say Iowa is about the only state where everyone knows how good and how historic our wrestling program is, even among those who don’t follow it.
Places like Oklahoma and Pennsylvania are even tough to find fans randomly, obviously because there are tons of elite college sports, pro sports, and huge metropolitan areas.
You just won’t ever get wrestling to catch hold in those big markets, so it gets relegated to networks like Big Ten. Which is ok with me, I’ll still buy tickets and watch when it’s on TV.
This gets a bit more to my original point though. What are the rules on rights to the broadcast? I know BTN holds primary rights. Forget ESPN, conference duals can't go there currently. However, there is a Fox connection between FS1 and BTN. Does that create an opening (I don't know)?Iowa and PSU get relegated to B1G because they own the rights. If ESPN owned the rights, that dual would be on one of the ESPN channels. Indiana vs Illinois? You have a point. But ESPN does carry every match of our championship to include the finals in prime time.
Beyond football and baseball, most college sports are “niche” sports. This is something we already know.
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BTN doesn't hold the broadcasting rights, Fox Corporation does and they extended the contract through 2032.This gets a bit more to my original point though. What are the rules on rights to the broadcast? I know BTN holds primary rights. Forget ESPN, conference duals can't go there currently. However, there is a Fox connection between FS1 and BTN. Does that create an opening (I don't know)?
Regarding the appeal of wrestling...you can't tell me that more than a handful of these duals wouldn't yield significant increases in viewership compared to FS1's regular evening schedule. I mean look at the FS1 schedule for the current week as an example. The evening lineup is full of "niche" sports. The only difference in season is that there will be basketball games many nights, but I have no idea if FS1 carries much basketball. I can't really remember seeing it.
I was talking about the possibility of FS1 doing a national broadcast, since that is also Fox. It would give exposure to a wider audience and potentially yield higher ratings for the national network. It is likely a very long shot, but I'm sure they could make a business case for it. Heck, they carry WWE on there, do a double header with Minnesota (featuring Gable), followed by Smackdown.BTN doesn't hold the broadcasting rights, Fox Corporation does and they extended the contract through 2032.
What opening are you talking about? With espn?
ESPN probably could've negotiated the rights when Disney purchased a majority of Fox's assets, but they didn't, so here we are. They spent $52B and wrestling wasn't even an after thought. I think we're right where we belong right now.
TBH- I think BTN and Fox are doing just fine. I appreciate what ESPN does in March, but there's no way they'd push duals more than what Fox is currently doing. ESPN would bury wrestling along with all the other garbage they broadcast.
You’re second paragraph is the exact reason I’m happy ESPN isn’t covering more wrestling duals. Btn does a solid job, I loved the expanded coverage they had last year.BTN doesn't hold the broadcasting rights, Fox Corporation does and they extended the contract through 2032.
What opening are you talking about? With espn?
ESPN probably could've negotiated the rights when Disney purchased a majority of Fox's assets, but they didn't, so here we are. They spent $52B and wrestling wasn't even an after thought. I think we're right where we belong right now.
TBH- I think BTN and Fox are doing just fine. I appreciate what ESPN does in March, but there's no way they'd push duals more than what Fox is currently doing. ESPN would bury wrestling along with all the other garbage they broadcast.