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Anyone have information on Britt,Iowa wrestling ?
Al DeLeon used to coach there and they always had
some good wrestlers. Al was a 3 time Mn. state champ
from my home town..He use to bring his team up to wrestle
in the Russ Tournament first week of Dec.
 
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They go by West Hancock school now I believe. I grew up in Northwood, never fun to Wrestle in Britt !! Great teams
 
They were great in the 60s-80s with DeLeon. Went thru some down years but now have a pretty darn good coach getting things back on track. Low numbers don't make it easy.
 
Low numbers don't make it easy.

Anyone know if there is a website with athlete participation rates in Iowa across high school sports? Would be nice data to have. I'm curious if wrestling numbers are currently down or up.
 
They were great in the 60s-80s with DeLeon. Went thru some down years but now have a pretty darn good coach getting things back on track. Low numbers don't make it easy.

Deleon is also responsible for the revival of the Waldorf College wrestling program in the mid to late 90s. The school hired him along with Steve Kelly, a former wrestler of his and ISU alum, to put the program back on the map. The school later added women’s wrestling.
 
Deleon is also responsible for the revival of the Waldorf College wrestling program in the mid to late 90s. The school hired him along with Steve Kelly, a former wrestler of his and ISU alum, to put the program back on the map. The school later added women’s wrestling.
Kelly is coach at NIACC now. Great guy.
 
Anyone know if there is a website with athlete participation rates in Iowa across high school sports? Would be nice data to have. I'm curious if wrestling numbers are currently down or up.

I see real data has been posted, but without taking time to peruse that data, here are my observations from being a participant in the '70s and having sons participate in the '90s and '10s. I think participation numbers are still fairly strong although they seem to vary more in recent years than in the past, but strength/depth seems to be down.
When I was in school, most of the people who stayed in wrestling longer than a week or two seemed to at least have a grasp of the sport. When my youngest son wrestled in HS (2011-2015), it seemed like a larger percentage of kids couldn't get out of their own way on the mat. This seems very odd, because now there are more and better quality clubs, and kids are tending to start earlier than ever. My co-captain and I, our junior year, started a 5th and 6th grade program, which became our local kids club of today. Prior to that, 7th grade was the earliest you could wrestle in our town, and we were 3A. Very few schools had pre-junior high starter clubs in our area at that time, and the ones that did, dominated in HS.
I could be off in these observations, but I just feel the quality (in depth, not necessarily at the top) of Iowa HS wrestling has fallen from where it was 30-40 years ago.
 
Great Post, it’s fun to think back on the old days. We were family friends with Brian Moretz. ( 3 timer and 3rd as a freshman hwt.) Lot of great wrestling in N Iowa late 80’s early 90’s.

Manly always had a 95 lbs and a Hwt entry at State every year.

Osage always had a whole section of fans wearing green!
 
I see real data has been posted, but without taking time to peruse that data, here are my observations from being a participant in the '70s and having sons participate in the '90s and '10s. I think participation numbers are still fairly strong although they seem to vary more in recent years than in the past, but strength/depth seems to be down.
When I was in school, most of the people who stayed in wrestling longer than a week or two seemed to at least have a grasp of the sport. When my youngest son wrestled in HS (2011-2015), it seemed like a larger percentage of kids couldn't get out of their own way on the mat. This seems very odd, because now there are more and better quality clubs, and kids are tending to start earlier than ever. My co-captain and I, our junior year, started a 5th and 6th grade program, which became our local kids club of today. Prior to that, 7th grade was the earliest you could wrestle in our town, and we were 3A. Very few schools had pre-junior high starter clubs in our area at that time, and the ones that did, dominated in HS.
I could be off in these observations, but I just feel the quality (in depth, not necessarily at the top) of Iowa HS wrestling has fallen from where it was 30-40 years ago.

Fallen from 30-40 years ago? It was my understanding that Iowa hs wrestling peaked in the 90s/00s? Could be wrong on that.
 
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MAYBE in the '90s. Definately not in the '10s. When my older son wrestled, there were some outrageously stacked weight classes. The kid who beat him out for varsity as a soph had like three losses on the year and couldn't make it out of sectionals because 1st and 2nd placers at state were in his bracket. He had a war, and lost a tooth battling for true 2nd, but lost by a point. Another of his teammates who was at the weight my son should have wrestled that year, was a State Champ and three-time place winner (maybe four, I forget), had Ben Scorpil of West Liberty ( 4X placer, 3X finalist, 2X Champ) and a guy named Schwab you all may have heard of in his bracket at State, and no one was denying Schwabby that year.
 
MAYBE in the '90s. Definately not in the '10s. When my older son wrestled, there were some outrageously stacked weight classes. The kid who beat him out for varsity as a soph had like three losses on the year and couldn't make it out of sectionals because 1st and 2nd placers at state were in his bracket. He had a war, and lost a tooth battling for true 2nd, but lost by a point. Another of his teammates who was at the weight my son should have wrestled that year, was a State Champ and three-time place winner (maybe four, I forget), had Ben Scorpil of West Liberty ( 4X placer, 3X finalist, 2X Champ) and a guy named Schwab you all may have heard of in his bracket at State, and no one was denying Schwabby that year.

Meant 2000s not 2010s.

I remember multiple sectional/district brackets around 2006ish where the #1,2,3 ranked guy were all in the same bracket and one didn't make it to state. That's not a really good metric to compare wrestler quality anyway though because a #1 guy one year may have been #6 in a different class. It may speak to the depth though because otherwise one of the guys would go up or down a weight class.

There were more 3 and 4x state champs in the 2000s than any other decade though and it's not really that close if I'm recalling correctly.
 
Anyone have information on Britt,Iowa wrestling ?
Al DeLeon used to coach there and they always had
some good wrestlers. Al was a 3 time Mn. state champ
from my home town..He use to bring his team up to wrestle
in the Russ Tournament first week of Dec.
Actually. Yes. Everything above is correct. I am from Britt. Al left Britt in 1996 for Waldorf and since retired. The Kelly’s, the whole family were studs. We had quite a few great wrestlers under Al. Really had some down years after Al but are on our way back up under Mark Sanger. His dad has been the football coach for Britt forever and while a small town we typically are good in football. Switched over to West Hancock in 1990 when Britt and Kanawha consolidated. A few Christmas fun facts. I grew up with Bob Stenlege’s (Iowa’s first 4 timer from Britt) nephew. Paul Jenn grew up down the road and our brothers were high school buddies. Paul was a few years older than me, and his sister Laral was my babysitter. Paul may have not be on the list of top Iowa wrestlers, but he does allow us to maintain that Carl was not perfect.

Some extra info on Al for mini. He lived one street over a few houses down from me. He taught Spanish as well as wrestling and was a student favorite. He had two sons. John and Justin, both older than me and were great wrestlers, not state titles though. Justin was a stud Fullback. Al was also and Olympic alternate.

Steve Kelly grew up with my brother. Prob would have been a champ but knee issues. He was a beast. Used to run to school several miles, work out, class, wrestling practice and then run home. Dan Gable heart type stuff. All those Kelly boys could wrestle. Pat Kelly was the real deal.

Here is a link on two of the Kelly’s getting into Iowa wrestling hall of fame. Mentions DeLeon.
http://globegazette.com/brittnewstr...cle_c13a86ce-20d3-11e1-9b26-0019bb2963f4.html
 
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There were more 3 and 4x state champs in the 2000s than any other decade though and it's not really that close if I'm recalling correctly.

I think this year has the potential for five 4x champs...think about how before there were 20ish in all the years prior and this year, bam!
 
Just exactly my point, vodka and Luther. Not as deep in competition, thus more 4-timers without the depth to knock them off. 4-timers were more rare when there were more great wrestlers to take them out.
 
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Just exactly my point, vodka and Luther. Not as deep in competition, thus more 4-timers without the depth to knock them off. 4-timers were more rare when there were more great wrestlers to take them out.

Yeah, that's an interesting take as well and could be true. It's interesting that several of the recent 4xers haven't had any success at the college level, and of course some such as Clark and Sorensen have had a lot of success.
 
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I think this year has the potential for five 4x champs...think about how before there were 20ish in all the years prior and this year, bam!


Oh wow, is it really 5 this year? Who are they? Teske just eliminated Thomsen from the running.
 
Blue Earth has produced 50 state champs with 3xers Al Ogdie and Ron Malcom being their best when it was just one class in MN. Al went to my school, Mankato State, back when the legendary Rummy Macias was coaching. Back then Mankato and Iowa St wrestled every year. First time I saw Gable was when he pinned our 2x DII champ Bob Soulek. I couldn't believe it as I had no idea who Gable was.
 
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Fallen from 30-40 years ago? It was my understanding that Iowa hs wrestling peaked in the 90s/00s? Could be wrong on that.
Unfortunately, in a week, 1990 was 28 years ago. So not that far off, even if you are right about the peak of Iowa wrestling. I think the 80’s and 90’s are the peak of Iowa wrestling. Big teams can’t even fill their lineups anymore. Too many weights. I went to a big school and we were at least 3-4 deep at most every weight (12 weights) except heavy and the lightest weight. Now there are 14 weights, not all are filled and there are about 8 -10 backups for the whole team at a big school.
 
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MAYBE in the '90s. Definately not in the '10s. When my older son wrestled, there were some outrageously stacked weight classes. The kid who beat him out for varsity as a soph had like three losses on the year and couldn't make it out of sectionals because 1st and 2nd placers at state were in his bracket. He had a war, and lost a tooth battling for true 2nd, but lost by a point. Another of his teammates who was at the weight my son should have wrestled that year, was a State Champ and three-time place winner (maybe four, I forget), had Ben Scorpil of West Liberty ( 4X placer, 3X finalist, 2X Champ) and a guy named Schwab you all may have heard of in his bracket at State, and no one was denying Schwabby that year.
Your son must be around my age and weight, Scorpil won my bracket that year at sectionals beating Stanley from Wilton (who was also a returning state champ) in the finals. Stanley won the rematch a week later at districts and was rewarded with being put on Schwab’s side of the bracket at state! Juergens and Postvagal (spelling?) were in the weight just below ours at sectionals that year as well. There were some very tough wrestlers flying around back then :)
 
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I remember watching some fine Britt wrestlers in the late 1960s. North-Central Iowa has always had fine small-school wrestling teams. Britt isn't that far away from Humboldt, Clarion, Eagle Grove, and Algona either. I sure hope that wrestling culture stays strong up in that part of Iowa.
 
I remember watching some fine Britt wrestlers in the late 1960s. North-Central Iowa has always had fine small-school wrestling teams. Britt isn't that far away from Humboldt, Clarion, Eagle Grove, and Algona either. I sure hope that wrestling culture stays strong up in that part of Iowa.

It really hasn’t, to be honest. Other than Clarion’s recruits of course.
 
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I remember watching some fine Britt wrestlers in the late 1960s. North-Central Iowa has always had fine small-school wrestling teams. Britt isn't that far away from Humboldt, Clarion, Eagle Grove, and Algona either. I sure hope that wrestling culture stays strong up in that part of Iowa.
Clear Lake is right there too. They had market in the area when I was growing up. Recently Colon’s. Don’t know much about it now, just Seabolt in Mason City. I know more about IL these days, some great options for my boys around these parts.
 
Since we’re talking about stacked weights/years and what not. My senior year (1996) the Wamac conference was pretty stacked and especially at 119. 7 of the 8 guys placed at state within the three classes. Had the the 3A champ (Doyle -WD) And 2A champ (Pentecost sp? -Indepence) who had place 5th at the conference tournament that year. Only guy not a stud in that weight was our poor freshman at BC. He got quite the education that year.
 
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Makes me wonder what the toughest bracket in Iowa state wrestling history was. Anyone have any suggestions?
 
I think John Thorn and Greg Randall were both in the 1980 finals in 2A at 112. Not sure who got 3rd.
 
I only know 3A very well in the 01-08 range.


Borschel beat Slaton in the final their freshman year, that would have been the 01/02 season.

Nate Moore, Mark Ballweg and McDonough were at 3A 103 in 2005
Montel Marion and Derek St. John were both 130 in 2006
McDonough, Dylan Carew and Tyler Clark were all at 119 in 2007
 
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