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Would he be more popular among Iowa fans as Lee?

No way.

Lee's commitment is a critically important milestone for Iowa:
  1. Lee is one of the most dynamic PA HS wrestlers of all time
  2. Strengthens Iowa's ability to recruit elite PA wrestlers
  3. Strengthens Iowa's relationship with elite PA Young Guns
  4. Major recruiting win for Brands in Cael's back yard trumps beating out Cornell for NY wrestlers.
NY has had some great wrestlers. But, if Iowa wants to beat PSU, they need to be able to maintain a strong recruiting presence in PA. So, Lee trumps Yianni imo.
 
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No way.

Lee's commitment is a critically important milestone for Iowa:
  1. Lee is one of the most dynamic PA HS wrestlers of all time
  2. Strengthens Iowa's ability to recruit elite PA wrestlers
  3. Strengthens Iowa's relationship with elite PA Young Guns
  4. Major recruiting win for Brands in Cael's back yard trumps beating out Cornell for NY wrestlers.
NY has had some great wrestlers. But, if Iowa wants to beat PSU, they need to be able to maintain a strong recruiting presence in PA. So, Lee trumps Yianni imo.
What is the evidence that Spencer helps to recruit PA? Maybe transfers.
 
Yianni would be more heralded because he has had a better trajectory from the get go. 6 losses >>>> 1 loss. 141 has also been tougher than 125 both this year and last. Not to take anything away from Lee, he will be an all time great for the Hawks no matter how it ends, but Yianni is out there big brothering guys like JO, Molinaro and Retherford. He's ahead of where Lee is at right now in their careers.
 
Yianni would be more heralded because he has had a better trajectory from the get go. 6 losses >>>> 1 loss. 141 has also been tougher than 125 both this year and last. Not to take anything away from Lee, he will be an all time great for the Hawks no matter how it ends, but Yianni is out there big brothering guys like JO, Molinaro and Retherford. He's ahead of where Lee is at right now in their careers.
125 > 141 both years...
 
Yianni would be more heralded because he has had a better trajectory from the get go. 6 losses >>>> 1 loss. 141 has also been tougher than 125 both this year and last. Not to take anything away from Lee, he will be an all time great for the Hawks no matter how it ends, but Yianni is out there big brothering guys like JO, Molinaro and Retherford. He's ahead of where Lee is at right now in their careers.

Have to disagree on two points. Last year's 125 was tougher:

1. Lee-2X
Suriano-This year's 33 champ...which was the toughest bracket in the NCAAs
NATO-1,3,3,3
Lizak-Finalist, 3 AA
Cruz-Returning Champ
Bresser-2AA
Moisey-2AA Finalist

Three guys on this list had wins over Gilman.

Three returning AA's did not make the stand: Millhof, Russell, Picc

Yianni-2X
Meredith
McKenna
Eierman
Lee
Jack
Red
Perry

DNP-Heil a two timer...which is a statement to just how weak 141 was before a few guys dropped in.

Feel free to look your weight up but I feel just fine going with 125.

2. Out of all of Yianni's NCAA tourney matches, he bonused in 2/10. He had zero bonus this year. Lee has bonused in 7/10. Career bonus IAW wrestlestat is 64% Yianni, 74% Spencer. In both finals, Lee left no doubt. Yianni lived on the edge in both of his finals.

Sure, you have a point in freestyle but you can't compare the two because Spencer has not stepped out on the mat for whatever reasons. Yianni has looked outstanding in freestyle and very much looks like the future of the weight.
 
Yianni would be more heralded because he has had a better trajectory from the get go. 6 losses >>>> 1 loss. 141 has also been tougher than 125 both this year and last. Not to take anything away from Lee, he will be an all time great for the Hawks no matter how it ends, but Yianni is out there big brothering guys like JO, Molinaro and Retherford. He's ahead of where Lee is at right now in their careers.
Disagree - 125 for Lee’s first title was tougher weightclass - 2 former champs, a finalist, and Soriano all in same bracket. But yes all things being the same - overall yianni slightly ahead.
 
Yianni would be more heralded because he has had a better trajectory from the get go. 6 losses >>>> 1 loss. 141 has also been tougher than 125 both this year and last. Not to take anything away from Lee, he will be an all time great for the Hawks no matter how it ends, but Yianni is out there big brothering guys like JO, Molinaro and Retherford. He's ahead of where Lee is at right now in their careers.
Disagree - 125 for Lee’s first title was tougher weightclass - 2 former champs, a finalist, and Soriano all in same bracket. But yes all things being the same - overall yianni slightly ahead.

Not trying to crap on Yianni, because he is the man, but comparing total losses is just dumb.

Spencer wrestles a Big Ten schedule and Yianni basically sleep walks to NCAA’s every year.
 
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I believe he wrestled for a club in upstate New York that uses the tiger hawk as its logo. Don’t believe Iowa was ever a serious consideration.
 
I believe he wrestled for a club in upstate New York that uses the tiger hawk as its logo. Don’t believe Iowa was ever a serious consideration.
I assume the royalties “said club” is paying to Iowa, is going to the new wrestling facilities fund? :)
 
Yiannis bracket had Dean heil, Bryce Meredith et al last year. Not exactly a weak bracket.

Yianni also wrestles in the EIWA which means he only sees “elite” talent in the post season whereas the B1G season puts a real test on guys all year.

Impossible to say who has had a better career so far definitively, but as a fan, having two good guys to root for as they chase 4 ncaa titles is awesome.
 
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Except both years Yianni wrestled the best guys prior to ncaas and beat them then as well (minus a single loss to eirmann which has been avenged multiple times) so your statement is a bunch of nonsense. The losses themselves are lopsided but the people Lee has lost to are also of lower calibre than yianni's only loss. Bresser and picc alone would put him below Yianni as each one of those losses are worse than eirmann (who has wins over McKenna, ashnault and Logan stieber albeit in freestyle just to name a few). Not knocking on Lee, he is incredible, but I cannot look at the first two seasons for these guys and say they are equal. And for the hate on heil imagine you're a 2x champ that lost in the quarters and think about where your head would be. Crazy stuff happens on the backside all the time. He was still a 2x champ that lost to Yianni after he tore his acl mid match
 
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