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Burroughs out for World Cup

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Reigning world and Olympic champ Burroughs not making the trip to LA due to the expected birth of his daughter. Okie Sts Alex Dieringer is the likely replacement.
 
Can't blame him. I'm glad that young Iranian won't have a chance to wrestle JB until the Olympics. Burroughs is nearly impossible to beat the first time you wrestle him.
 
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Can't blame him. I'm glad that young Iranian won't have a chance to wrestle JB until the Olympics. Burroughs is nearly impossible to beat the first time you wrestle him.

Does it matter how many times you see him? You know he's hitting a blast double. He's fast, like a marsupial.
 
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Jordan's knee was in bad shape at the time. Did you watch the match? Jordan wasn't Jordan. I expected this bs reply. Watch wrestling once instead of looking at records. And for all the others that have wrestled him more than one time?
 
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Jordan's knee was in bad shape at the time. Did you watch the match? Jordan wasn't Jordan. I expected this bs reply. Watch wrestling once instead of looking at records. And for all the others that have wrestled him more than one time?

I've seen them all. I think it was about 5 am the time he lost. I watched it live but I suppose I could google the results. I also saw the first one when JB came out of no where to win his first world championship. I also saw the second one where he almost beat JB. He made huge adjustments and two on oned the sh** out of him and almost won. I guess some times guys make adjustments at that level.

Also, as far as watching JB he has a hell of a lot more than a free shot blast double. The majority of his doubles are from a re shot now. He also has a sick single off a re shot as well. He's also Developed quite the lace.
 
Not really. Burroughs was a shell when he lost to Tsargush. Not close to healthy. Had nothing to do with Denis' experience against Jordan.

How could you you possibly prove that or know that for a fact?

Did he not make major improvements and changes between match 1-2?

This is all speculation. My point is wrestle JB first time zero chance-scout him and have a stratagey-very very very small chance.
 
Not really. Burroughs was a shell when he lost to Tsargush. Not close to healthy. Had nothing to do with Denis' experience against Jordan.

This. Tsargush is a great wrestler but a healthy Burroughs beats him. I'm sure JB wouldn't allow for excuses...injuries are part of the game. Still, the first time that Burroughs beat Tsargush, the odds were stacked in TSargush's favor with the best 2 of 3 format which denigrated Burroughs superior conditioning.

Burroughs is far better than what he used to be even when he won gold in 2012 if that is possible. His leglace is $$$$ and he is just not a blast double any more. He is way more cerebral in his approach and is very good in his ties and is able to hold center more so than just shooting from the outside. The World has tried everything against him to no avail. Not saying he's unbeatable but he is close. One of our greatest.
 
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This. Tsargush is a great wrestler but a healthy Burroughs beats him. I'm sure JB wouldn't allow for excuses...injuries are part of the game. Still, the first time that Burroughs beat Tsargush, the odds were stacked in TSargush's favor with the best 2 of 3 format which denigrated Burroughs superior conditioning.

Burroughs is far better than what he used to be even when he won gold in 2012 if that is possible. His leglace is $$$$ and he is just not a blast double any more. He is way more cerebral in his approach and is very good in his ties and is able to hold center more so than just shooting from the outside. The World has tried everything against him to no avail. Not saying his unbeatable but he is close. One of our greatest.

I have to agree. He is definitely one of our greatest. There may have been others that were as good, but when you can prove it over and over again, I think that puts you in another league. Baumgartner, Smith, and Burroughs have to be in the discussion for the most consistent and probably the best.
It is kind of like Michael Jordan in basketball. There may have been others that could play like him, but not for years and years in a row. His consistent ability to perform at an incredible level, puts him in another league.
Wouldn't it be great to see Dennis go on a 4 year run of Olympic and world titles?
 
How could you you possibly prove that or know that for a fact?

Did he not make major improvements and changes between match 1-2?

This is all speculation. My point is wrestle JB first time zero chance-scout him and have a stratagey-very very very small chance.

Prove JB was injured? Ok, watch the 2014 world championships. Watch his match where he injures his MCL against GBS. Then watch him struggle with guys he's previously dominated. Talk to the coaches, etc.

It appears to me you aren't aware they've wrestled 3 times. Jordan winning the first two matches narrowly, then getting blown out in match 3. Was this some revelation in scouting from Denis or was Jordan injured? Anyone with eyes knows what happened.
 
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Prove JB was injured? Ok, watch the 2014 world championships. Watch his match where he injures his MCL against GBS. Then watch him struggle with guys he's previously dominated. Talk to the coaches, etc.

It appears to me you aren't aware they've wrestled 3 times. Jordan winning the first two matches narrowly, then getting blown out in match 3. Was this some revelation in scouting from Denis or was Jordan injured? Anyone with eyes knows what happened.
T-H-I-N----------------S-K-I-N. It appears to me that you have never heard the expression, "third times the charm".:p
 
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World Cup about to start! My feed is a bit choppy.. Anyone else having issues?
 
Prove JB was injured? Ok, watch the 2014 world championships. Watch his match where he injures his MCL against GBS. Then watch him struggle with guys he's previously dominated. Talk to the coaches, etc.

It appears to me you aren't aware they've wrestled 3 times. Jordan winning the first two matches narrowly, then getting blown out in match 3. Was this some revelation in scouting from Denis or was Jordan injured? Anyone with eyes knows what happened.
Prove JB was injured? Ok, watch the 2014 world championships. Watch his match where he injures his MCL against GBS. Then watch him struggle with guys he's previously dominated. Talk to the coaches, etc.

It appears to me you aren't aware they've wrestled 3 times. Jordan winning the first two matches narrowly, then getting blown out in match 3. Was this some revelation in scouting from Denis or was Jordan injured? Anyone with eyes knows what happened.

If you read my posts above I'm fully aware that they have wrestled three times. The first time he had no idea who JB was. JB won. The second time was a terrifying match where's DS won a period and JB won in the closest of matches. How can you say someone would have won if not that injured? We're not doctors nor that smart. Would Cade O beat everyone at 120 this year? If imiller didn't get hurt vs imar does he win? We're not doctors bud and were on the same team. I'm just saying wrestling JB for the first time is train wreck 2.0
 
I understand the bad knee, I even brought it up. What I don't understand the entire match he wrestled. He limped in for a single and let himself get wizzered like he had given up...no fight. He must have been in serious pain or didn't want to make anything worse than it was.

Strange for a wrestler, but when you have his gift why roll the dice?
 
I understand the bad knee, I even brought it up. What I don't understand the entire match he wrestled. He limped in for a single and let himself get wizzered like he had given up...no fight. He must have been in serious pain or didn't want to make anything worse than it was.

Strange for a wrestler, but when you have his gift why roll the dice?

The same reason he wrestled on a broken ankle the year before...cause he's damn tough and its the only tourney of the year that counts in his world. He still won bronze.
 
If Mickey Mantle, Bobby Orr and Gayle Sayer only broke they're ankle the could have been the GOATs of their sports. They had knee injuries, you get bad scar tissue in there and it's over. Granted our orthopedic surgeons are top notch today, but not worth the risk on that joint.

And back to his blast double that everyone says he's moved on from. Your talking about the leg laces, I hope by now he has a decent leg lace. The Europeans and Asians can hit these in their sleep, but they can't stop getting blasted and even set up by the blast and getting hit with a low/outside single instead. It's a huge part of his offense. It is who he is and he needs his knees.
 
If Mickey Mantle, Bobby Orr and Gayle Sayer only broke they're ankle the could have been the GOATs of their sports. They had knee injuries, you get bad scar tissue in there and it's over. Granted our orthopedic surgeons are top notch today, but not worth the risk on that joint.

And back to his blast double that everyone says he's moved on from. Your talking about the leg laces, I hope by now he has a decent leg lace. The Europeans and Asians can hit these in their sleep, but they can't stop getting blasted and even set up by the blast and getting hit with a low/outside single instead. It's a huge part of his offense. It is who he is and he needs his knees.

He hasn't moved on from his blast doubles, he has just become less one dimensional. He has been hitting laces for the last few years...one of the best in the World
 
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Ok, boys. I'm having major surgery this week. I'm tapping out for a while. The postings in this last week have been less than stellar do to my meds.

If something happens to me tell Gavin and Spencer I owe them one, they made my year. Also Berge, Warner and Gable when they commit. What a sick team for the ages and history. The history of IOWA WRESTLING will be rewritten with these guys.

Last time I had this surgery I almost died. Please, lord take me from this PSU world. How nice to die under general anesthesia and in Iowa city. Good luck, kids.
 
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Ok, boys. I'm having major surgery this week. I'm tapping out for a while. The postings in this last week have been less than stellar do to my meds.

If something happens to me tell Gavin and Spencer I owe them one, they made my year. Also Berge, Warner and Gable when they commit. What a sick team for the ages and history. The history of IOWA WRESTLING will be rewritten with these guys.

Last time I had this surgery I almost died. Please, lord take me from this PSU world. How nice to die under general anesthesia and in Iowa city. Good luck, kids.

Good luck with the repairs. Are your kids helping with the surgery?
 
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Burroughs vs the 74kg guy from Iran would have been the match of the entire World Cup.
That Iranian is super super good, wow.
Think USA's been kind of spoiled with Burroughs these last few year. This weekend just shows you how much of a difference maker he is.
 
Burroughs vs the 74kg guy from Iran would have been the match of the entire World Cup.
That Iranian is super super good, wow.
Think USA's been kind of spoiled with Burroughs these last few year. This weekend just shows you how much of a difference maker he is.

He's the real deal and very young. He beat Pico in the junior world finals two years ago. I still think JB beats him but the Iranian is going to be tough to beat. I think he makes a medal unless JB, him and the Russian all end up on the same side.
 
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He's the real deal and very young. He beat Pico in the junior world finals two years ago. I still think JB beats him but the Iranian is going to be tough to beat. I think he makes a medal unless JB, him and the Russian all end up on the same side.
How about his sommersault roll in entry onto the mat? It's cocky, but I kinda liked it.
 
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Ok, boys. I'm having major surgery this week. I'm tapping out for a while. The postings in this last week have been less than stellar do to my meds.

I don't know about that, thought this was one of your better efforts:

Does it matter how many times you see him? You know he's hitting a blast double. He's fast, like a marsupial.

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I guess that was a little narcissistic and delusional to think I've had a stellar post. My psychiatrist has confirmed I suffer from both.
 
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What bait? It was a Kevin Pollak bit on Chistopher Walken. I'm sure he knew the reference.

I wanted to post it, but my new phone is outsmarting me.
 
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