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What if Sears had hired Jeff Bezos in 1999 and turned him loose?

What if the US Justice Dept hadn’t broken up AT&T in 1984?

What if Kirk Kerkorian hadn’t forced the sale of a newly innovative Chrysler to Daimler Benz?

What if the US government hadn’t allowed individual companies to do disadvantaged joint ventures in China?

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FormerlyCyberCy said:
What if Sears had hired Jeff Bezos in 1999 and turned him loose?

What if the US Justice Dept hadn’t broken up AT&T in 1984?

What if Kirk Kerkorian hadn’t forced the sale of a newly innovative Chrysler to Daimler Benz?

What if the US government hadn’t allowed individual companies to do disadvantaged joint ventures in China?

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What if we voted Hillary in 2016 would we be the shit show we are now? What if GW didnt send me and far too many in 2003 to Iraq would the world be in a better place?
 
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What if the current stock market reflected the economy?
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Let’s go back to the 80’s. IBM decided they want to create the first desktop computer that business could use. They didn’t have the time to develop the computer in house so they sourced out Weeverything. They bought the CPU from little unknown company called Intel, they bought the disk drives from another company, the graphics card from another and so on. BTW, that is the reason that to this day you can build your own PC. Everything in the PC is open, no patents on anything and that’s the reason you can’t build a Apple computer. Anyway, they were looking around for an operating system and found another unknown company called Microsoft that agreed to provide an operating system. At the time Bill Gates told IBM they already had a system, but they didn’t, he figured they could put one together by the time IBM needed it. At the time IBM was going to buy the system from Microsoft. At the last minute Bill Gates changed his mind, he agreed to provide the operating system but he would keep rights to the software. All IBM would have to do was just refuse to that and Bill would have agreed to sell it to them but IBM agreed to just lease the system. That decision was one of the worst business decisions in modern history. IBM, at the time agreed to the lease saying “everybody knows that the money to be made is in the hardware, not software.” That one decision made Bill Gates the richest man in the world.
 
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What if IBM hasn’t essentially given DOS to Microsoft?

What if Kodak had developed the digital camera it patented first rather than sticking with film because it was more popular?

What if the Cubs had offered Maddux the big contract?

What if the Hawks didn’t call a naked bootleg out of the end zone against Northwestern?
 
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St. Louis Hawk said:
What if IBM hasn’t essentially given DOS to Microsoft?
it was the other way around. IBM got DOS from Microsoft. The IBM version was called PC-DOS. Microsoft didn't even create DOS, they bought the rights for it from a friend of Bill's. All of them were just a clone of CP/M created by Intel IIRC
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St. Louis Hawk said:
What if IBM hasn’t essentially given DOS to Microsoft?

What if Kodak had developed the digital camera it patented first rather than sticking with film because it was more popular?

What if the Cubs had offered Maddux the big contract?

What if the Hawks didn’t call a naked bootleg out of the end zone against Northwestern?
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That is the way I remember it; Microsoft or Bill Gates acquired DOS from IBM, IBM was thinking that they could develop a more efficient operating system and was intending to trash DOS. MIcrosoft added a few features making it a better on the front end and leaving the Hairball aspect in the actual functioning. They just fixed all the development glitches by writing new code over old code. ... so that by 2000, everything was an even bigger Hairball (This term came from the Oracle founder, Larry Ellison who developed operating systems that were efficient but far far more expensive and difficult to use.

I think that Gates then went around pitching it to any of a zillion startup PC makers which were popping up. In any case, IBM never ended up with an exclusive and Windows came along shortly after and quickly became the OS for about everyone who was in the new industry.

The two Apple guys were developing a system at the same time, but MSFT got a bit of a jump on them with the hopped-up DOS system.

I am sure this account a bit garbled and the timeline is off ... but DOS was originally owned by IBM.
 
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FormerlyCyberCy said:
What if Sears had hired Jeff Bezos in 1999 and turned him loose?

What if the US Justice Dept hadn’t broken up AT&T in 1984?

What if Kirk Kerkorian hadn’t forced the sale of a newly innovative Chrysler to Daimler Benz?

What if the US government hadn’t allowed individual companies to do disadvantaged joint ventures in China?

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Sears' culture was already bloated. Bezos needed to start from scratch to be successful. He would have been fired from Sears because he wouldn't have gotten along with board members.
 
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Titus Andronicus said:
That is the way I remember it; Microsoft or Bill Gates acquired DOS from IBM, IBM was thinking that they could develop a more efficient operating system and was intending to trash DOS. MIcrosoft added a few features making it a better on the front end and leaving the Hairball aspect in the actual functioning. They just fixed all the development glitches by writing new code over old code. ... so that by 2000, everything was an even bigger Hairball (This term came from the Oracle founder, Larry Ellison who developed operating systems that were efficient but far far more expensive and difficult to use.

I think that Gates then went around pitching it to any of a zillion startup PC makers which were popping up. In any case, IBM never ended up with an exclusive and Windows came along shortly after and quickly became the OS for about everyone who was in the new industry.

The two Apple guys were developing a system at the same time, but MSFT got a bit of a jump on them with the hopped-up DOS system.

I am sure this account a bit garbled and the timeline is off ... but DOS was originally owned by IBM.
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Don't think so.....
 
Titus Andronicus said:
That is the way I remember it; Microsoft or Bill Gates acquired DOS from IBM, IBM was thinking that they could develop a more efficient operating system and was intending to trash DOS. MIcrosoft added a few features making it a better on the front end and leaving the Hairball aspect in the actual functioning. They just fixed all the development glitches by writing new code over old code. ... so that by 2000, everything was an even bigger Hairball (This term came from the Oracle founder, Larry Ellison who developed operating systems that were efficient but far far more expensive and difficult to use.

I think that Gates then went around pitching it to any of a zillion startup PC makers which were popping up. In any case, IBM never ended up with an exclusive and Windows came along shortly after and quickly became the OS for about everyone who was in the new industry.

The two Apple guys were developing a system at the same time, but MSFT got a bit of a jump on them with the hopped-up DOS system.

I am sure this account a bit garbled and the timeline is off ... but DOS was originally owned by IBM.
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“Gates shared plenty of ideas with IBM and even told them he'd write an operating system for them. Instead of writing one, Gates reached out to Paterson and purchased 86-DOS from him, allegedly for $50,000. Microsoft turned it into Microsoft Disk Operating System, or MS-DOS, which they introduced on this day in 1981.”
www.businessinsider.com

A Quick Look At The 30-Year History Of MS DOS

www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
 
FormerlyCyberCy said:
“Gates shared plenty of ideas with IBM and even told them he'd write an operating system for them. Instead of writing one, Gates reached out to Paterson and purchased 86-DOS from him, allegedly for $50,000. Microsoft turned it into Microsoft Disk Operating System, or MS-DOS, which they introduced on this day in 1981.”
www.businessinsider.com

A Quick Look At The 30-Year History Of MS DOS

www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
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What if they had replay in '85? The Cards have their 12th WS title. What if the Cub$ hadn't traded Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio?

Almost immediately the effects of the trade were felt, as Brock batted .348 for the Cardinals and led them to winning the 1964 World Series. Brock also helped the Cardinals to another World Series title in 1967, a pennant in 1968, and played successfully for St. Louis through 1979, amassing 3,023 hits and 938 stolen bases (at the time becoming baseball's all-time leader in stolen bases) en route to his Hall of Fame election in 1985. Meanwhile, Broglio went only 4-7 with a 4.04 ERA for the Cubs, and by 1966 was out of Major League Baseball.
 
St. Louis Hawk said:
What if IBM hasn’t essentially given DOS to Microsoft?

What if Kodak had developed the digital camera it patented first rather than sticking with film because it was more popular?

What if the Cubs had offered Maddux the big contract?

What if the Hawks didn’t call a naked bootleg out of the end zone against Northwestern?
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To be fair there was an uncalled facemask penalty on that play.
 
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