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CBS Studio hosts: Iowa had No FIght, No Competitive Spirit

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Kenny Smith and Clark Kellogg said this in the post game, on LIVE TV, from the CBS Sports Desk.

Wow. Great things to hear, huh?

Do you agree with what the CBS studio hosts said?

If you do, how can this happen? Where is the leadership from the coaches and seniors? If you play a game in the Big Dance, aren't fight and competitive spirit givens?

Coaches and senior leaders(??) have some explaining to do but Fran will probably say it's none of our business.

Shaking my head at what I just saw on national television....
 
Sure looked that way. Uthoff always looks to have no energy. He was great earlier in the year when teams didn't focus on him as much. Once they focused on him he didn't seem to step things up to counteract the additional attention.

Obviously Baer brought his game today but it was certainly embarrassing for the rest of the team. They just never seemed to care that this was possibly their last game. It never seemed to be a team that showed a lot of emotion.

I think in the end, Iowa had the level if success that they deserved. They greatly overachieved in the beginning of the B10 season, then underachieved the rest of the way. A one win tourney team seemed to be their calling to me. Just my opinion.
 
Sure looked that way. Uthoff always looks to have no energy. He was great earlier in the year when teams didn't focus on him as much. Once they focused on him he didn't seem to step things up to counteract the additional attention.

Obviously Baer brought his game today but it was certainly embarrassing for the rest of the team. They just never seemed to care that this was possibly their last game. It never seemed to be a team that showed a lot of emotion.

I think in the end, Iowa had the level if success that they deserved. They greatly overachieved in the beginning of the B10 season, then underachieved the rest of the way. A one win tourney team seemed to be their calling to me. Just my opinion.
I think Ute checked out a few games back.
 
Had a nice run that raised expectations and made them overconfident.
Maryland punched them in the mouth a few weeks ago and they never recovered.
Today's shitshow was courtesy of that.
 
Kenny Smith and Clark Kellogg said this in the post game, on LIVE TV, from the CBS Sports Desk.

Wow. Great things to hear, huh?

Do you agree with what the CBS studio hosts said?

If you do, how can this happen? Where is the leadership from the coaches and seniors? If you play a game in the Big Dance, aren't fight and competitive spirit givens?

Coaches and senior leaders(??) have some explaining to do but Fran will probably say it's none of our business.

Shaking my head at what I just saw on national television....
Sadly what they said is True...the whole nation saw it, recruits saw it, this team was a mess, the coaching staff was clueless, time for a change unfortunately, pay the $....get a young passionate coach.
 
I remember when the nova player hit that wide open 3 after standing wide open for 5 minutes and the announcer said something like "I don't mean to talk bad about Iowas defense, but....".

I said why not....I just did :(

They can't just say nothing and if you don't give them something good to say.....
 
I believe that McCaffery needs to undertake a Ferentz-style bottom to top review of the basketball program this off season.

It would do him good to schedule a meeting with Kirk for Monday morning and take note of every step and follow-up action that Ferentz took following the Tennesse bowl debacle.

If he does, it can only help. I'm not saying the Hawks will repeat the football feat and go undefeated in the regular season next year :cool: but it would be a good reset for Fran and the staff IMO.
 
I believe that McCaffery needs to undertake a Ferentz-style bottom to top review of the basketball program this off season.

It would do him good to schedule a meeting with Kirk for Monday morning and take note of every step and follow-up action that Ferentz took following the Tennesse bowl debacle.

If he does, it can only help. I'm not saying the Hawks will repeat the football feat and go undefeated in the regular season next year :cool: but it would be a good reset for Fran and the staff IMO.
Wow...don't go there....we are looking for improvement...lol
 
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That's one time I agree with the talking heads...only some of us have been pointing this out off and on for years. Iowa is to college basketball what the Tin Man was to woodsmen: neither had a heart.

It takes no talent to try. And this team--with a few exceptions like Baer--never fired a shot. And that's about the worst thing you can say about any team or any athlete. No guts. Sad but true.
 
Coaches are responsible for all of that. If you don't want a guy shooting 8 feet beyond the arc, take him out. If they miss layups, work on it in practice. If they are not good enough athletes, recruit better. Coach is responsible for all of it!
 
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That's one time I agree with the talking heads...only some of us have been pointing this out off and on for years. Iowa is to college basketball what the Tin Man was to woodsmen: neither had a heart.

It takes no talent to try. And this team--with a few exceptions like Baer--never fired a shot. And that's about the worst thing you can say about any team or any athlete. No guts. Sad but true.

That's what makes it hard to root for them. I love Iowa basketball and would have gave my left nut, like many on here, to put on a Iowa uniform. When the players don't give every last ounce of effort they have, it makes it hard to root for them.
 
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I see our fans learned nothing from the tom Davis era

Fran is a good coach. It is truly puzzling how a coach with his demeanor has a team that justifies through the motions.

Maybe he is a bit overbearing and that demoralizes the team? Who knows. I sure don't but anyone can see effort and we don't have it
 
I wouldn't say they're not trying.
What they lacked in a big way is toughness. And this was clearly exposed in the contrast between them and 'nova today.
Physical toughness most visibly. Mental toughness as well.
 
Effort isn't the issue.....most of these guys just aren't gamers....they aren't winners. Simple as that. CBS games make their testicles shrink.
 
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I see our fans learned nothing from the tom Davis era

Fran is a good coach. It is truly puzzling how a coach with his demeanor has a team that justifies through the motions.

Maybe he is a bit overbearing and that demoralizes the team? Who knows. I sure don't but anyone can see effort and we don't have it

This group and Fran didn't work.

Theyre mentally soft and hes old school. I honestly don't think he had an answer for how soft they were.

Im looking forward to a fresh start with some different players that are more athletic and mentally tougher.
 
I think Ute checked out a few games back.

I don't want to get into blaming any one player because its a team game and it takes everyone to win/lose a game.

But his play the past couple of weeks makes you wonder if he was injured or something happened. I realized teams started to get physical and go after him with their best defensive players, but he just started to double clutch a lot of shots and not attack. Does anyone think he was possibly scared to get injured? Just seemed to lose his willingness to attack.
 
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Sure looked that way. Uthoff always looks to have no energy. He was great earlier in the year when teams didn't focus on him as much. Once they focused on him he didn't seem to step things up to counteract the additional attention.

Obviously Baer brought his game today but it was certainly embarrassing for the rest of the team. They just never seemed to care that this was possibly their last game. It never seemed to be a team that showed a lot of emotion.

I think in the end, Iowa had the level if success that they deserved. They greatly overachieved in the beginning of the B10 season, then underachieved the rest of the way. A one win tourney team seemed to be their calling to me. Just my opinion.
What was JU supposed to do when there were so few sets ran for him? Most of our offense became MG and AC dribbling and trying to score while JU decoyed out past the 3 point line.
 
I see our fans learned nothing from the tom Davis era

Fran is a good coach. It is truly puzzling how a coach with his demeanor has a team that justifies through the motions.

Maybe he is a bit overbearing and that demoralizes the team? Who knows. I sure don't but anyone can see effort and we don't have it

Fran is a clueless coach, only a total moron would leave Iowa in a zone all half with nova lighting us up from three, yet the moron did it.
 
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What was JU supposed to do when there were so few sets ran for him? Most of our offense became MG and AC dribbling and trying to score while JU decoyed out past the 3 point line.
Seriously, you are blaming JU passiveness on MG and AC. How many times per game did JU get the ball anywhere from 15-25 feet away, look around, maybe dribble a couple times and then throw up a shot, usually a fall away. He rarely even attempted to take a player off the dribble, swing the ball through the defensive player face (watch other teams clear space with this trick) or go straight up for a jump shot. During the last ten games, it always seemed like JU would never catch the ball cleanly too, always a little bobble which just gives the other team reaction time. By all reports, JU is a nice guy, but doesn't appear to have a very aggressive presence on the court and other teams took big advantage of that
 
So the CBS analysts said the same thing that most of the posters have been saying all year?
Sad but true. But if you do mention it people will argue that you don't know what you are talking about. It clearly is true, hence the choke job done at the end of the year. That is a problem that needs addressed.
 
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