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Chicago State- Absolute Embarrassment

SotaHawk87

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They quit early last year too. Can’t even find a coach, consistently bottom 5 of 350 whatever teams. Can we please just get rid of their D1 status already?
 

They quit early last year too. Can’t even find a coach, consistently bottom 5 of 350 whatever teams. Can we please just get rid of their D1 status already?
Kinda sounds like that should be on the table heh? LOL!
 

They quit early last year too. Can’t even find a coach, consistently bottom 5 of 350 whatever teams. Can we please just get rid of their D1 status already?

They almost lost D1 status in the spring. Decided to cut baseball only for supporters to inform them it'd drop them below the required amount of athletics for D1. Meeting was a fiasco, they postponed it. Came back and cut baseball and added men's soccer a few months later.
 
Chicago State is one of the worst run universities (overall) in the country and at various times has been in battles to remain D1, had their entire athletic program on the chopping block, had their accreditation status in jeopardy, and even had the state consider whether to shut it down entirely. With a conference that brings in absolutely no revenue, and no tickets to sell, there's only expenses left this year. So they basically just took their checks from the teams that host them for a guarantee game and then shut it down.

I guess the NCAA's view on it is probably just apathy, they're not really hurting anything by just sucking.
 
A school that let Craig Hodges wear a flowing robe on the sideline has never been taken seriously, and is poorly run?

Stunning. Lol.

Merry Covid everyone
 
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Will D-II even take or accept them?

Well it brings up a paradox for a lot of schools in this spot. Yes, of course it lessens the burden of athletic scholarships, but in turn you're also giving up the guarantee/buy games because the high D1 teams wont play you and pay you. Some of these teams make $500k or more in a season, just in playing these buy games. You also diminish virtually any interest you'd ever hope to get, and even the little guys get a tiny slice of that NCAA tournament money-pie. There's definitely a good number of success stories around the country...where previously obscure universities have, become...or spend decades as, an obscure D1 program that catches lightning in a bottle and that success has a SIGNIFICANT positive effect on that university as a whole. Gonzaga being the most prominent example in basketball, but think about schools like Florida-Gulf Coast, George Mason, Wichita State, and Loyola Chicago, or to a lesser extent a Georgia State, Murray State or Stephen F. Austin. In football, moving up from I-AA to I-A has been a significant overall lift to many schools also, Boise State being the best example, but also Northern Illinois, Buffalo, Miami Ohio Florida Atlantic and FIU.

So even if those success stories seem far-fetched for a place like CSU, to voluntarily drop down, you're basically asking people who are decision makers with a lot of time/effort invested in that particular university to give up a lot of hopes and dreams....which human decision makers aren't terribly good at.
 
Somebody is going to the be worst team in D-1. If it were just that, then it wouldn't be much of an issue. It's the finances that make this all so messy. As has been laid out already in this thread, there's the money to be made as a punching bag for upper level teams vs the expenses of maintaining a program. With the hope for these bottom feeders of winning the lottery.
Maybe worth considering having some sort of process like they do in European soccer where teams are promoted (and demoted) between divisions based on performance.
 
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I forgot that Chicago State was a school. I had to look up where it was. I guess it's where I-57 meets I-94 on the South Side. Had no idea, and I consider myself rather knowledgeable about Chicago area geography.
 
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