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Chicago Street cops say 'ACLU effect' drives spike in gun violence

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Authorities last year suggested Chicago’s spike in gun violence in 2015 was due to the “Ferguson effect” — cops afraid to do their jobs because of the scrutiny following the shooting of a black teenager by a white officer in 2014 in Ferguson, Missouri.

But with Chicago now plagued with an even steeper rise in fatal shootings in January, compared with the same period of 2015, street cops are offering a new reason: the “ACLU effect.”

They say the Chicago Police Department’s pact with the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois to monitor police stops in greater detail is prompting officers to stop policing, leaving the streets to the criminals and leading to the spike in gun violence.


Starting in January, officers have been required to fill out two-page forms documenting every stop of a citizen for everything from traffic violations to investigative stops. They ask for much more information than the previous one-page “contact cards” officers filled out.

In interviews with officers and sergeants over the past month, a common theme has emerged: Cops say they have avoided making many of the stops they would have routinely done last year. They fear getting in trouble for stops later deemed to be illegal and say the new cards take too much time to complete.

Their reluctance to make stops was borne out by a police statistic released Sunday: Officers completed 79 percent fewer contact cards in January 2016 than over the same period last year.

Meantime, January 2016 was the deadliest first month of the year since 2001, according to a Chicago Sun-Times review of homicide records. At least 50 murders were recorded through 6 a.m. Sunday — most the result of shootings on the West and South Sides.

In comparison, there were 28 murders in January 2015 and 20 in 2014. More than 270 people were victims of gun violence this January, including those who died, compared with 133 in January 2015.

The “unacceptable increase in violence was driven primarily by gang conflicts and retaliatory violence,” Interim Police Supt. John Escalante said.

“The vast majority of incidents originated from petty disagreements that escalated into gun violence that tore apart families,” Escalante said. “Chicagoans should know that detectives are making progress in January’s investigations and have already solved 14 murder cases this month.

Eight of those cases occurred in 2016, with the rest from previous years.

To combat the rising violence, the department has redeployed more than 350 police officers and 31 sergeants from foot patrol into vehicles to give them greater visibility and improve their ability to respond to violent incidents.

And to address the sharp drop in officers producing contact cards — a bellwether of police activity — Escalante said: “We are conducting training on the new investigative stop law and reporting requirements and that is taking place three shifts per day.”

One sergeant in a South Side police district attributed the latest wave of violence to criminals becoming emboldened by what they see as officers being hamstrung by the intense scrutiny over police practices since the video of an officer fatally shooting Laquan McDonald was made public in November.

The officer, Jason Van Dyke, faces murder charges in the 2014 shooting of McDonald, a 17-year-old who was holding a knife but appeared to be walking away from the officer when he was shot.

The sergeant said officers worry that the legality of their own street stops will come under question in the current environment of public scrutiny over police practices. Under the department’s deal with the ACLU, a retired federal judge will review the contact cards for any potential constitutional violations and issue a report in June.

The sergeant said his team made dozens of stops in December, but only a handful in January.

“We’re avoiding all the gray areas,” he said.

But the ACLU rejects any correlation between declining street stops and rising violence, said Karen Sheley, director of police practices for the ACLU of Illinois. Other cities have scaled back their street stops without an explosion of shootings, she said.

The reduction of “invasive” street stops is actually a good thing, Sheley said.

The ACLU had pushed for the changes to allow for better monitoring of stop-and-frisk practices and their impact on minorities. The ACLU released a report in March that found blacks accounted for 72 percent of stops between May and August of 2014, but just 32 percent of the city’s population.

The ACLU also reviewed 250 contact cards filled out after stops, and found that half didn’t list a lawful reason for them.

Under similar pressure from the ACLU, New York City has scaled back its stop-and-frisk practices. New York police made 23 stops per 1,000 people in 2011 and 2 per 1,000 in 2014, compared with 93 per 1,000 in Chicago in the summer of 2014.

Through Jan. 24, New York City has seen a 26 percent decrease in murders compared with the same period of 2015, according to its police department.

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/1292856/cops-say-aclu-effect-drives-spike-gun-violence
 
Hey, here's a thought:

Why don't the big bad cops stop whining like little bitches and actually do their freaking jobs without unnecessarily killing innocent people?
 
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This is a slippery slope. I understand the frustration with police officers and the misconduct that has come to light the last few years. My concern is who is going to sign up to be a police officer in the future. As easy as it is for us to bitch about police officers would any of us want the job?
 
This is a slippery slope. I understand the frustration with police officers and the misconduct that has come to light the last few years. My concern is who is going to sign up to be a police officer in the future. As easy as it is for us to bitch about police officers would any of us want the job?

There will never be a shortage of high school meat heads that want to become cops.
 
Being required to complete a two-page report every time you talk to someone so the ACLU monitors can scrutinize everything you do seems a bit over-the-top, to me.

You don't have to stop being a cop if you dislike the terms and conditions of employment, you just move somewhere else and be a cop.
 
This is a slippery slope. I understand the frustration with police officers and the misconduct that has come to light the last few years. My concern is who is going to sign up to be a police officer in the future. As easy as it is for us to bitch about police officers would any of us want the job?
This would be a great time for a remake.
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Being required to complete a two-page report every time you talk to someone so the ACLU monitors can scrutinize everything you do seems a bit over-the-top, to me.

You don't have to stop being a cop if you dislike the terms and conditions of employment, you just move somewhere else and be a cop.
I'm guessing the two page report is a bit of an exaggeration. Either way, they certainly should need to document a valid reason for stopping people.

Remember this is the same police department that was recently found to be disabling some their cameras.
 
I'm guessing the two page report is a bit of an exaggeration. Either way, they certainly should need to document a valid reason for stopping people.

Remember this is the same police department that was recently found to be disabling some their cameras.

Yeah, those reports contain an automated printout of the person stopped' biographical information.

Think of speeding tickets you may have received, do you think officers are typing that all in?
 
I'd say that the mild winter in Chicago is driving shootings more than anything. The CPD was incapable of preventing shootings before, and they're incapable now......weather is the factor here, not the ACLU
 
I'd say that the mild winter in Chicago is driving shootings more than anything. The CPD was incapable of preventing shootings before, and they're incapable now......weather is the factor here, not the ACLU

No, I live here. It's not the weather it is the disgraceful shooting scandal and the feds involvement that is making cops hesitant (gun shy, if you want). Suspicious characters and vehicles are more often being ignored, nine of ten fine but one with criminal intent. They used to be stopped but now the cops are afraid of racism charges. It is not good for Chicago, what with more people being killed and all.
 
No, I live here. It's not the weather it is the disgraceful shooting scandal and the feds involvement that is making cops hesitant (gun shy, if you want). Suspicious characters and vehicles are more often being ignored, nine of ten fine but one with criminal intent. They used to be stopped but now the cops are afraid of racism charges. It is not good for Chicago, what with more people being killed and all.

I find it funny that you seem to be arguing that "Chicago" (meaning people you never/still don't care about anyways) are being killed, therefore we should have let slide illegal, unconstitutional tactics against those very people you are pretending, now, to care about.

Feel free to quantify what those "suspicious characters and vehicles" were prior to their stop.
 
No, I live here. It's not the weather it is the disgraceful shooting scandal and the feds involvement that is making cops hesitant (gun shy, if you want). Suspicious characters and vehicles are more often being ignored, nine of ten fine but one with criminal intent. They used to be stopped but now the cops are afraid of racism charges. It is not good for Chicago, what with more people being killed and all.

The only thing disgraceful about the investigation is the actions of the CPD in covering up multiple murders.
 
I find it funny that you seem to be arguing that "Chicago" (meaning people you never/still don't care about anyways) are being killed, therefore we should have let slide illegal, unconstitutional tactics against those very people you are pretending, now, to care about.

A car speeding or swerving or a hollywood stop at a stop sign. Young men in the car with the stereo blaring. If they are African-American they are more likely to get a free pass now. Like I said, I live here. Where do you live and who the hell are you to judge Chicago cops?
 
Two thoughts on this.

1) CPD shouldn't be pushing back on any additional technology, or paperwork to ensure public safety. They haven't earned the right to be indignant and they certainly shouldn't be using Fergusson as some kind of shield.

2) Fergusson. Let's stop pretending that ish actually went down that way. "Hands up! Don't Shoot!" didn't happen. The Mike Brown shooting was a legal shooting. Sad for all involved, but the Big Mike shouldn't be the poster boy for anyone's movement.
 
No, I live here. It's not the weather it is the disgraceful shooting scandal and the feds involvement that is making cops hesitant (gun shy, if you want). Suspicious characters and vehicles are more often being ignored, nine of ten fine but one with criminal intent. They used to be stopped but now the cops are afraid of racism charges. It is not good for Chicago, what with more people being killed and all.

Lol no, this is no different than why there are more shootings when it's hot out, less shootings when it's raining out, etc

The police in no way, shape, or form were able to prevent gangs from shooting at each other before the video came out/Feds got involved.....nothing has changed. That contact card didn't do anything before, and this 2 page report is doing nothing now
 
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Lol no, this is no different than why there are more shootings when it's hot out, less shootings when it's raining out, etc

The police in no way, shape, or form were able to prevent gangs from shooting at each other before the video came out/Feds got involved.....nothing has changed. That contact card didn't do anything before, and this 2 page report is doing nothing now

You are an idiot. What neighborhood in Chicago do you live in? Wiota?

The cops in the cruisers, on the streets, are much more hesitant now. I don't want to say scared, but they know every move, every stop, will be under more scrutiny than ever before. The racism charges are a real fear among cops right now.
 
You are an idiot. What neighborhood in Chicago do you live in? Wiota?

The cops in the cruisers, on the streets, are much more hesitant now. I don't want to say scared, but they know every move, every stop, will be under more scrutiny than ever before. The racism charges are a real fear among cops right now.

Jfc I have no doubt that the CPD is now afraid of how it reacts to shootings......because that's all they ever did to gang shootings......REACT. They were never proactive about preventing gang shootings, and nothing has changed in that regard.

It's a mild January weather-wise, hence more gangs shootings in January because more people are outside than is normal for January.
 
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Dont forget that the cops dont really care when gang members kill each other so they arent going to risk anything to stop them.
 
You are an idiot. What neighborhood in Chicago do you live in? Wiota?

The cops in the cruisers, on the streets, are much more hesitant now. I don't want to say scared, but they know every move, every stop, will be under more scrutiny than ever before. The racism charges are a real fear among cops right now.

What neighborhood do you live in? I don't notice the police enough at all to come close to the conclusions you have, or even have an opinion really.
 
What neighborhood do you live in? I don't notice the police enough at all to come close to the conclusions you have, or even have an opinion really.

Fair question. I live in Lakeview, Hermitage and Waveland. A mile west of Wrigley Field.

I stood up, now all the posters criticizing Chicago cops should post what neighborhood and city they live in.
 
Fair question. I live in Lakeview, Hermitage and Waveland. A mile west of Wrigley Field.

I stood up, now all the posters criticizing Chicago cops should post what neighborhood and city they live in.

I live in Wicker, GF lives in Lakeview, Clifton and Belmont, I'm certainly not outside as often as the other months, but I haven't noticed a thing regarding policing. Is this a hobby of yours to sort of 'track' them or just casually making observations?
 
Fair question. I live in Lakeview, Hermitage and Waveland. A mile west of Wrigley Field.

I stood up, now all the posters criticizing Chicago cops should post what neighborhood and city they live in.

I lived in the city for 15 years. The city of Chicago hasn't had enough police officers to actively police and prevent violent crime for more than a decade - hence your notion that up until 3 months ago the CPD was proactively preventing violent crime is nothing more than a fantasy
 
I lived in the city for 15 years. The city of Chicago hasn't had enough police officers to actively police and prevent violent crime for more than a decade - hence your notion that up until 3 months ago the CPD was proactively preventing violent crime is nothing more than a fantasy


Not only this but they took cops away from safer neighborhoods and put them in the middle of the gang wars.
 
Fair question. I live in Lakeview, Hermitage and Waveland. A mile west of Wrigley Field.

I stood up, now all the posters criticizing Chicago cops should post what neighborhood and city they live in.

We live in Humboldt Park, North and Sacramento. I am willing to bet there is a much more "action" in our area and I we have not noticed any significant changes in policing either.
 
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