Hillary, Pelosi, AOC, I think always having a female "face" of the democratic party to demonize is useful for the Republicans, as an important part of their coalition is the heavily mysogynistic "women belong in the kitchen" demographic.
China Warns US of "Forceful Measures" if Nancy Pelosi Visits Taiwan
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Biden? The guy that told the Speaker not to go?
I'm glad she went. F China.
Or maybe they'll quit selling us stuff and buying our commodities.
Agreed. Misogyny seems to be a major motive for many voters and it’s pathetic. I lean slightly left and have never been a huge fan of Pelosi’s “style”, but the hatred and demonization of her (and Hillary, AOC and others) seems unjustified to me.
I don’t dislike Boebert and MTG because they’re women. I dislike them because they are indisputably stupid and divisive - essentially female versions of Matt Gaetz.
Pelosi went to Tiananmen Square in 1991 and unfurled a banner, without anyone else's knowledge, to honor the Chinese people who fought for democracy. She's never backed down from them.
As judged by our female governor. Do you guys even read what you type before you hit post?
Video: China sends warplanes into Taiwan's air defense zone amid Pelosi's visit - CNN Video
US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi landed in Taipei marking a significant show of support for Taiwan despite China's threats of retaliation over the visit. CNN's Selina Wang explains China's reaction and the potential consequences of this decision.
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We were the biggest limp dik around the world with carter.
Ronaldo Maximus saved us.
Pelosi's been one if the most anti-Chicom politicians for a long time.
30 years ago, she unfurled a banner in Tianaman Square honoring dissidents killed there
30 years ago, she unfurled a banner in Tianaman Square honoring dissidents killed there
It's a core constituency. Do you think that men who believe that a woman's place is as a homemaker, cooking and raising kids don't actually exist, or that they vote democrat?
You are going to have to pick a side here. You are in for a rude awakening when you realize Joe and Tucker agree. Personally, I'm glad she went, **** China.
Well, she is there...China is floating their boats and being pissed...and Nancy has invited Xi and others to pick the peanuts out of her feces. Even Moscow Mitch understands what she did was right (plus Mitch has eaten enough shit this week).
Whoever thought it was a good idea to leak Pelosi's visit to the press should be fired.....
Would have been much better if she just had showed up....not these 2 weeks of back and forth rhetoric..
Would have been much better if she just had showed up....not these 2 weeks of back and forth rhetoric..
Bins....don’t you think Nancy enjoyed the notoriety? Hell, she’s a pol, too. And for a Dem leader to openly stick it to the Chinese has to be satisfying to some degree. Doesn’t hurt her “popularity”...you either liked her or hated her.
I don't think she did it for notoriety....and I don't think the leak came from her or her people.
I'm glad she went...we should be more vocal in our support for Taiwan.
The only time Nancy has spent 'in the kitchen' in recent years is to get some premium ice cream out of the freezer.
The main reason we see women carrying the flag for the dems is because the men are weak, old or both.
Why should we be more vocal for Taiwan? Where is the strategic importance for the US?
Strategically.....
While the U.S. has maintained a degree of self-reliance on semiconductors for use in military technologies, many U.S. defense systems, including advanced fighter jets, radars, and missile-defense systems still rely on commercial chips sourced from Taiwan. Disruptions in Taiwanese manufacturing facilities during conflict with China could cause catastrophic bottlenecks in U.S. military-industrial capacity, severely weakening its national security and the combat effectiveness of its armed forces.
The consequences for the global civilian economy would dwarf military-technological considerations. There is a TSMC-made chip in every new Apple iPhone. In every modern automobile, there are anywhere from 1,000-3,500 semiconductors, many of which are produced in Taiwan. Similarly, the rollout of 5G and Internet of Things (IoT) infrastructure is heavily reliant on the availability of cutting-edge microprocessors which only a handful of firms, including TSMC, have the capacity to manufacture. These are just a few of many essential technologies and industries which would be dramatically impacted by disruptions to Taiwanese chip manufacturing.
Beyond the humanitarian and geopolitical upheaval that would follow a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, the economic devastation it would unleash is impossible to quantify. As U.S. and allied policy makers look for ways to shelter their economies from the fallout of this potential conflict, there is a need to cooperate on issues of strategic resiliency in supply chains in an increasingly uncertain international security environment.
Taiwan’s Semiconductor Dominance: Implications for Cross-Strait Relations and the Prospect of Forceful Unification
By: Gregory Arcuri and Samantha Lu Russia’s war in Ukraine has generated considerable concern around the world about the prospects of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. Even as ongoing hostilities wreak havoc on international commodity markets, Taiwan’s status as a critical node in the global...
I think allying and supporting Democracies worldwide has strategic importance....curbing China's power and influence has strategic importance. We abandon Taiwan and China takes it.... it sends a very bad signal to other democracies in the Region and they may look to appease the Chinese and distance themselves from the US.
None of which would be good good for the US strategically long term.
China isn't our friend....their our main adversary in the world and we should act accordingly.
I mean look what happened with Hong Kong, I feel like this will go the same way unfortunately. The chips can be produced in other countries and hopefully most of it being back in the USA.Strategically.....
While the U.S. has maintained a degree of self-reliance on semiconductors for use in military technologies, many U.S. defense systems, including advanced fighter jets, radars, and missile-defense systems still rely on commercial chips sourced from Taiwan. Disruptions in Taiwanese manufacturing facilities during conflict with China could cause catastrophic bottlenecks in U.S. military-industrial capacity, severely weakening its national security and the combat effectiveness of its armed forces.
The consequences for the global civilian economy would dwarf military-technological considerations. There is a TSMC-made chip in every new Apple iPhone. In every modern automobile, there are anywhere from 1,000-3,500 semiconductors, many of which are produced in Taiwan. Similarly, the rollout of 5G and Internet of Things (IoT) infrastructure is heavily reliant on the availability of cutting-edge microprocessors which only a handful of firms, including TSMC, have the capacity to manufacture. These are just a few of many essential technologies and industries which would be dramatically impacted by disruptions to Taiwanese chip manufacturing.
Beyond the humanitarian and geopolitical upheaval that would follow a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, the economic devastation it would unleash is impossible to quantify. As U.S. and allied policy makers look for ways to shelter their economies from the fallout of this potential conflict, there is a need to cooperate on issues of strategic resiliency in supply chains in an increasingly uncertain international security environment.
Taiwan’s Semiconductor Dominance: Implications for Cross-Strait Relations and the Prospect of Forceful Unification
By: Gregory Arcuri and Samantha Lu Russia’s war in Ukraine has generated considerable concern around the world about the prospects of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. Even as ongoing hostilities wreak havoc on international commodity markets, Taiwan’s status as a critical node in the global...www.csis.org
I think allying and supporting Democracies worldwide has strategic importance....curbing China's power and influence has strategic importance. We abandon Taiwan and China takes it.... it sends a very bad signal to other democracies in the Region and they may look to appease the Chinese and distance themselves from the US.
None of which would be good good for the US strategically long term.
China isn't our friend....their our main adversary in the world and we should act accordingly.
In regards to the democracies of the world, we can be in support but I don’t think we should go to war for them unless they are a huge Ally of ours.
Taiwan isn't Hong Kong and will be a tough nut to crack...or China would have done it already.
At the very least I'd say open the flood gates weapons wise for them....right now we limit sales as to not make China mad. Taiwan pays for the stuff so it wouldn't cost tax payers anything.
Strategically.....
While the U.S. has maintained a degree of self-reliance on semiconductors for use in military technologies, many U.S. defense systems, including advanced fighter jets, radars, and missile-defense systems still rely on commercial chips sourced from Taiwan. Disruptions in Taiwanese manufacturing facilities during conflict with China could cause catastrophic bottlenecks in U.S. military-industrial capacity, severely weakening its national security and the combat effectiveness of its armed forces.
The consequences for the global civilian economy would dwarf military-technological considerations. There is a TSMC-made chip in every new Apple iPhone. In every modern automobile, there are anywhere from 1,000-3,500 semiconductors, many of which are produced in Taiwan. Similarly, the rollout of 5G and Internet of Things (IoT) infrastructure is heavily reliant on the availability of cutting-edge microprocessors which only a handful of firms, including TSMC, have the capacity to manufacture. These are just a few of many essential technologies and industries which would be dramatically impacted by disruptions to Taiwanese chip manufacturing.
Beyond the humanitarian and geopolitical upheaval that would follow a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, the economic devastation it would unleash is impossible to quantify. As U.S. and allied policy makers look for ways to shelter their economies from the fallout of this potential conflict, there is a need to cooperate on issues of strategic resiliency in supply chains in an increasingly uncertain international security environment.
Taiwan’s Semiconductor Dominance: Implications for Cross-Strait Relations and the Prospect of Forceful Unification
By: Gregory Arcuri and Samantha Lu Russia’s war in Ukraine has generated considerable concern around the world about the prospects of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. Even as ongoing hostilities wreak havoc on international commodity markets, Taiwan’s status as a critical node in the global...
I think allying and supporting Democracies worldwide has strategic importance....curbing China's power and influence has strategic importance. We abandon Taiwan and China takes it.... it sends a very bad signal to other democracies in the Region and they may look to appease the Chinese and distance themselves from the US.
None of which would be good good for the US strategically long term.
China isn't our friend....their our main adversary in the world and we should act accordingly.
TSMC also makes a large percentage of CPUs and GPUs for PCs. Intel, Nvidia, and AMD all use TSMC for some or all of their chip fab.
This is what is concerning. So, Nancy says she is going to go. In my opinion, once she says she is going to go then she has to go. At that point she did the right thing. What I do NOT like about it is there is never a consideration of all of the ramifications of these decisions. Now Taiwan has a major issue that became immediate because of this visit and the US now has to make some major policy decisions on how the situation is going to be handled. The visit definitely moved the problems in that area to the front burner. Now everyone else has to deal with the problems that that visit caused. She'll be in front of the camera talking tough, while everyone else is going to pay the price of their time addressing the problems that were caused and the possible escalation of the tensions/military action.
Haven't watched Fox yet this morning.
Has World War Nancy started yet?
Has World War Nancy started yet?
Lol, doubtful. Their disputes are maritime borders for the “One China Policy”. The US and other would be more aggressive on protecting the Philippines compared to Taiwan.
I always chuckle at those posters pushing for getting all manufacturing out of China and back into the US as they are the same posters who complain about inflation now.
Making it a long term goal isn't a bad thing....won't happen for a long time regardless.
At the very least lessoning our reliance on China should be a goal everybody agrees with.
Looks like Riley wants to keep the slave factories open and ship job over seas.
Yep. Radical Right media does seem to remember that Merican Ag industry exports would dry up if the US ever decided a trade war was a good idea. Trump floated the idea to brainwash the cult, but it was always a bad idea.
I understand we import more than we export, but as you stated... product costs would go thru the roof if we didn't have Chinese made products.
