Or a cyber war.
Very worthwhile hour+ to watch. Maybe the question should be "What happens when US becomes #3?" (Behind China and India) or "What happens when the Chinese navy is aggressively patrolling 12 miles off our west coast?"
Yeah, my first question is how big is the French navy to begin with? The need for them to maintain a large navy ended with their empire.
I think China will admit they illegally took over the S. China Sea & Hong Kong.
So true. As I wrote in another thread this morning, it may happen quicker than we think. We just sanctioned Nicaragua as punishment for the people daring to vote for Ortega as opposed to the CIA's guy. So, Ortega announced they would no longer recognize Taiwan and now China has slipped in and will extend the Belt and Road Initiative to them. They might resuscitate the stalled Nicaragua Canal to compete with the Panama Canal and ship all of Venezuela's oil (the most proven reserves in the world at 300B barrels) and lithium to China.
I am a little confused on the term "Rules Based Order" that Biden keeps repeating. Does it mean that a country can lay claim to any territory it wants when it wants? Kind of like what is happening in the S. China Sea and in Hong Kong.
That's what I thought. China is our friend and they wish everyone nothing but good cheer. We should encourage more genocide and organ harvesting.
Let's do away with the Navy. If China wants to take over Australia, let them have it. What do we care about them?
It's a meaningless made-up euphemism to provide cover when targets do not genuflect when told.
I'm not aware of China threatening Australia. China was Australia's largest trade partner before they decided to shoot themselves in the foot and bow to 5-Eyes pressure.
Good question. We unilaterally walked away from JCPOA, ABM, INF, and Open Skies. We had 383 treaties with Native Americans and broke every one. I don't get it either.
Our carriers are much more vulnerable than we want to believe....China also doesn't need carriers to protect their interests....at least not yet.
About 100 ships including force projection ships like ballistic missile submarines, plus an aging aircraft carrier and some amphibious assault ships. They have a large number of destroyers and ASW ships. Most are in the Atlantic and Mediterranean Sea, but they still have a worldwide presence. Every now and again you'll see a mention of the US using one of their bases in the Indian or Pacific. They've put a lot of assets into chasing pirates around Africa, and in the Pacific Ocean.
Right so saying China is rapidly growing using France as their metric isn’t actually that meaningful. From their perspective, China is attempting to establish themselves as a naval power, when they’ve never really been one ever before, despite that extensive coastline.
I guess Biden didn't get the memo on what swell guys the Chinese are.
Never underestimate your enemy. They might lose but the number of US losses would be unacceptable in a full blown war. China ain't Iraq.
One hopes you are right. I am more circumspect especially when war gets face to face.
Because China wasn't actually doing all that well. Smoke and mirrors to keep the populace from starting a revolution. They can't feed their people on their own and their business model is reliant upon the west much more than the west is reliant upon them. Covid has the west shifting manufacturing away from China and their monetary policy is a joke. They are not the geniuses we or they have been allowed to believe even with their 40 year plan.
We would be fine without them economically and would shift manufacturing to Mexico, Brazil, and Central America. Maybe the Caribbean as well for some things. China was easier but it isn't the only option for us and we have learned that lesson. China is effed and Xi knows it. His option is to bang the nationalism drum and so he is doing just that. Won't change much and if he is stupid enough to actually go to war to cover up their problems they will be done as a country. The majority within china are not really communists and won't simply follow orders especially as one gets further away from Beijing. Our navy by the way would end them quickly. The other big issue they have is I guarantee we have the ability to truly eff their tech. We would shut off a lot of things for them before any actual fighting began.
Yep, I thought the Brits sank it when France capitulated to the Germans.
