Yeah they ain’t chummy now like they may have been back in 99.No he is not wrong. He said he may have valid points but there has definitely been a history of acrimony between KF and Chuck long…
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Yeah they ain’t chummy now like they may have been back in 99.No he is not wrong. He said he may have valid points but there has definitely been a history of acrimony between KF and Chuck long…
Pro day? LolJust wait til SP's pro day: he will run a 4.76.
Uh 10-4Yeah dammit. 10-2. We should have been 13-0 Kirk!!!!!!!! And all you guys tell your wives they need to lose 10 more pounds while they are at it too. We are all seeking to be better right!
I'm all for simpler believe me.While the overall message might be no different than what's been discussed for ages, it is good to see a couple details come out in terms of moving play-calling from both qb and center to the sidelines. that is something more concrete that has been divulged prior.
Pro day? Lol
I assume he will participate.
Uh 10-4
avg 1.5 offensive TD per game for the last 8 games iirc. That's not even mediocre...it's pathetic. But keep supporting one of the WORST P5 offenses because Phil parker is the man...
we all should after last year's offenseI’m not saying he is totally wrong, but Chuck has an axe to grind with the current coaching staff. He seems to like to pylon.
Nobody was happy with the offense last year, including Kirk, Brian and Spencer. Some of the reasons it happened were Kirk’s fault, Brian’s fault, etc and they did what they could do to win games. You have to let them fix it this year since they won 10 games.You are so off base it is pathetic. He has made many valid comments. A decade worth of an underproducing offense is fine with you I guess.
Fran, that's what fans were saying about Pah-Dee-Ya.yes they do.
Joe Lay Bus. Well, it's Labas, but pronounced Lay Bus.
time to get on the bus!!!
I'll take Chuck's qb and offense expertise over Kirk and Brian all day long. Kirk is great at player development, hiring great d and special teams coaches. Offense, no.If Chuck Long is a coaching genius, how did he do so poorly as HC and why isn’t he still coaching???
No.I'll take Chuck's qb and offense expertise over Kirk and Brian all day long. Kirk is great at player development, hiring great d and special teams coaches. Offense, no.
I'll take Chuck's qb and offense expertise over Kirk and Brian all day long. Kirk is great at player development, hiring great d and special teams coaches. Offense, no.
gaslight WOB?I’m not saying he is totally wrong, but Chuck has an axe to grind with the current coaching staff. He seems to like to pylon.
Obviously you take Kirk for those roles. I was talking about offense. That's all I was talking about, QB coaching and offense.No.
In running a football program, a management role, you take Kirk. Those who disagree may have married their cousins and eventually that is going to keep the kids out of college.
It truly boggles my mind that people find this insightful in any way and not something that anyone with a basic understanding of what they're watching on Saturday doesn't already know.
The line about the running game not being where it needs to be hits it in the head in my opinion.
Wisconsin has won games with average/poor QB play, but the difference is they have pro backs and better performing OL units (Iowa probably has better individuals over the past decade or so). When the backs are slamming for 5-6 yards a carry, it’s easy to not throw picks and take your 150 yards passing and win.
When roughly 1/3 of your running plays on 1st down go for negative or 1 yard, then a game manager is not going to cut it.
Beathard and to some degree Stanley had an ability to run and make plays off schedule, and we won at a great rate with them running the show. Asking Petras/Padilla to simply not turn the ball over is recipe for an offense ranked on the 90s or 100s again, unless the OL/backs show major improvement in the run game.
I just shake my head at those bashing Chuck Long. No, he was not a very good head coach. But he was one of the greatest college QB’s of all time and definitely the best Iowa has ever had. He still knows more about football than anyone in this thread.
I’ll take his opinion over the yahoos on this board.
Running the ball effectively opens up the passing game. Chuck isn't wrong on that. But it's not like he's Capernicus by making that observation.
Correct.
Also Hall of Fame coach Bobby stoops and future Hall of Fame Coach Lincoln Riley between the two of them somehow managed to a amass 10 or 11 losses in 12 seasons to double digit underdogs….
It is what it is….at the end of the day you settle in and try to enjoy your favorite sports team or you continue to be upset because they haven’t done enough!
No he is not wrong. He said he may have valid points but there has definitely been a history of acrimony between KF and Chuck long…
Maybe we should just "axe" him and find out...I guess that validates what many fans have been saying. Yet these same fans get berated by members of the Sunshine Club and other Superfans who think Kirk does no wrong.
Neither you or anyone else here can attribute Chuck’s motives as having “an ax to grind.” You don’t know that.
Brian made it pretty clear that they won't name the QB1 until the fall.
That sounds like they are being fair to me.
We ran the ball for over 5 ypc in the bowl and didn't allow a sack, Our defense kept our opponent under 21 points and we still found a way to lose the game.
It isn't the Lines fault because the QB can't hit the broad side of a barn, it isn't the QBs fault because the play calling makes vanilla ice cream look exciting, it isn't the play calling because our line can't block.
It's all circular bullshit. Our line would look better if our QB could make accurate quick throws and slow a pass rush down. Our running game wasn't terrible and would have been better If the defense had to respect our passing attack at all. KF needs to get past the 1990s mold of QBs.
Yeah the offenses of the early Stoops years at OU were great. They won a national title. If credit is going to be given for that (other than to Stoops and the staff for recruiting great players) I would lean toward Mangino. The fat man could coach. He went to Kansas and took perhaps the worst program in a power conference to an Orange Bowl. Once Long and Mangino got their own coaching gigs away from OU, the results were quite different.Honestly on what? His one SUCCESSFUL OC stint @Ou, with an also extreme defense?
Maybe one of the last really stout Oklahoma defenses in the last 20 years… ?!
So 1) take some responsibility away from QB and 2) take some responsibility away from the center. And give it to who? BF? Copernicus dealt with celestial bodies in the heavens. Figuring out ways to not run 2 straight FB dives, while difficult in itself, is not quite on that level. 🤪Incorrect.
When he talked about how Iowa might simplify the offense, he brought up 2 interesting ways to do that. Sound like Copernicus to me!
Brian is going to whip Petras into an All American this year with his vast knowledge of the qb position, which he has never coached before. After 5 years in the system Petras is finally going to have the light come on this year lol.Pro day? Lol
You do know that “ax” is also considered a correct spelling, don’t you? If not, might I suggest you pull out a dictionary?Maybe we should just "axe" him and find out...
His one successful CO oc stint. Mangino and Wilson had a part as wellHonestly on what? His one SUCCESSFUL OC stint @Ou, with an also extreme defense?
Maybe one of the last really stout Oklahoma defenses in the last 20 years… ?!
I am one who bashed CL for his criticisms. I am deaf so can’t listen to podcast and was going on what was written in posts
in hindsight, Chuck was repeating a lot of what KF and Brian have said. The need to improve running game is key No one can argue that. If your OL can’t block we’ll, no offense is going to perform well.
As far as QB being playmaker instead of manager, well Chuck just had to give ball to Ronnie Harmon and let him make plays. Iowa hasn’t had a playmaker of his ability since he graduated, regardless of what people say about his Rose Bowl fumbles Hopefully the OL improves and Iowa develops their running game and the QB is given time to pass. The closest guy to being a playmaker is Arland Bruce, IMO.
Will see if he is given opportunities
To be fair he also started for most of FOUR years so some context is in order. How many FOUR year starters have played QB for Iowa. Oh, I know, NONE. The closest was some guy named Nate Stanley who made a run at Longs TD record and threw for almost 9000 yds. You know the same guy so many here thought sucked. If this board had been around when we lost at OSU in 85 people here would have been shredding Long also, not to mention his "Heisman worthy" performance in that 12-10 squeeker against Michigan...Long threw for around 8000 yards to players NOT named Ronnie Harmon. But yes, Harmon was a special talent.
To be fair he also started for most of FOUR years so some context is in order. How many FOUR year starters have played QB for Iowa. Oh, I know, NONE. The closest was some guy named Nate Stanley who made a run at Longs TD record and threw for almost 9000 yds. You know the same guy so many here thought sucked. If this board had been around when we lost at OSU in 85 people here would have been shredding Long also, not to mention his "Heisman worthy" performance in that 12-10 squeeker against Michigan...
You realize that offenses have evolved since 85 right? Even Iowa’s? We see QBs (not at Iowa) get 4000 yards in a single year regularly now.To be fair he also started for most of FOUR years so some context is in order. How many FOUR year starters have played QB for Iowa. Oh, I know, NONE. The closest was some guy named Nate Stanley who made a run at Longs TD record and threw for almost 9000 yds. You know the same guy so many here thought sucked. If this board had been around when we lost at OSU in 85 people here would have been shredding Long also, not to mention his "Heisman worthy" performance in that 12-10 squeeker against Michigan...
You realize that offenses have evolved since 85 right? Even Iowa’s? We see QBs (not at Iowa) get 4000 yards in a single year regularly now.
To be fair he also started for most of FOUR years so some context is in order. How many FOUR year starters have played QB for Iowa. Oh, I know, NONE. The closest was some guy named Nate Stanley who made a run at Longs TD record and threw for almost 9000 yds. You know the same guy so many here thought sucked. If this board had been around when we lost at OSU in 85 people here would have been shredding Long also, not to mention his "Heisman worthy" performance in that 12-10 squeeker against Michigan...
I'm not sure the relevance of where Stanley is now. For being a 1st round draft pick, Longs pro career was hardly memorable, (and I'm well aware that Detroit was a horrible option for Longs skills). I just think fans get caught up in the Lore of Longs career much like they do with coach Fry to the detriment of current players and what they accomplish. When you consider Longs four year career his numbers aren't much different then Stanleys, who took a great deal of grief here. I honestly feel that if Stanley or Drew Tate and maybe some others had started for four years the Iowa record book would look a lot different then it does today. The major thing many liked about Long was his accuracy, and yet he had 28 interceptions in his last two years, something Fry dealt with but would have driven KF up the wall.My response was to his statement that all Long had to do was hand the ball off to Harmon. Where is NS playing these days?