Not good enough with the ball is why they rarely if ever get to the rim.
Dailys a little better than Moss.
CJ Fredrick
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Not good enough with the ball is why they rarely if ever get to the rim.
Dailys a little better than Moss.
Yeah, I dont care if this guys is JJ Redick, its not a piece that fills a need or fixes anything with the players already here, almost all of whom suck at defense.
If Fran had the benefit of knowing that instead of this being his best team, like he thought, it was actually going to be a hodgepodge disaster, he probably keeps this kid as a walkon for now and looks for perimiter athleticism.
and so do I actually
last Iowa team in the Final Four had a few white guys in case You forgot and it was a white guy who got the and 1 to beat G Town , bunch of reverse racists here . How bout You trash talk POC and see how fast the ban hammer comes out , the fact that the mods allow the racial trashing of whites is shameful .
Hahaha, nailed it. He's a fan of another team, guessing ISU. Can we place bets on what his next user name will be today?
They are in the Kentucky State Tourney right now. Last night Covington advanced with a 71-47 win. Fredrick led them with 25 points, 6 assists, 3-4 from 3 pt line, 9-13 overall, 6-6 from the line.
Because 1980 was so much like 2018. Not to mention that Waite's game winner was about as out-of-character for him as it gets. Dare I point out that the Hawks wouldn't have been in that position without Lester (Arnold and Brookins).
Anyway...regardless of skin color...Fran's squad needs more athleticism and quickness. That's pretty clear.
I agree....Fran screwed up Ellingson playing him at PG and letting the dogs attack him...I don't think Ellingson can get his own shot, but if we had played 3 guards he could have contributed stretching the floor out with his 3pt shooting ability.
5th year Ellingson would be better than 1st year Fredrick. Now Fran is in position where his team is in dire need of an athletic guard and he's already given up the scholly. Nothing against Frederick, but Fran's track record is spotty on identifying shooting guards.
Aaron White was pretty decent 3* white player for the Hawks, and Whitey is about as white as you can get
Was Uthoff a 3 or 4*?I don't disagree with the need for more athleticism, but some of our white boys would fit in pretty well, if Fran could recruit some quicker, more aggressive players, especially at guard, to play with them.
Doug McDermott. Seriously like the first person I thought of...
How many you need to make you go away?
Covington beat Fern Creek, Louisville, tonight 66-58 to move to the State Semis. CJ with 32 tonight in the win. I think he might be able to play a little bit.
Jarrod was a 3 star , oh and the last Iowa All AmericanAaron White was pretty decent 3* white player for the Hawks, and Whitey is about as white as you can get
I don't disagree with the need for more athleticism, but some of our white boys would fit in pretty well, if Fran could recruit some quicker, more aggressive players, especially at guard, to play with them.
And Fern Creek had beaten Cov Cath earlier this year and was widely viewed as #4 in Kentucky. Kentucky does some crazy stuff as they do a blind draw in their sweet 16 tourney so there are not seeds and thus many top ranked teams meet early.
http://www.kentucky.com/sports/high-school/prep-basketball/article205644104.html
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I'm not sure I agree with this. No doubt we could use a quick guard with skills, but I expect Fredrick to be an immediate upgrade over Ellingson. I do think Fran doesn't do our shooting guards any favors by playing so many Big's. Maybe Wieskamp at the 3 is the answer to giving our 2G (and Bohannon) more space.
Since Xavier offered am going to lean more towards he can play than can't.
The ole race card, it's being extremely over used nowadays
You may be right about Ellingson, I’m a big fan of seniors, but it’s really not an either/or situation. Someone was always going to transfer/leave at the end of this season and I think Fran realizes that. Frederick may have been the best available recruit in the fall but the Spring is a whole new recruiting season and you have to look at it that way.
I would agree with this one. Not many #1 seeds would offer on someone who they thought was a tier 2 player.
sorry the blatant trashing of whites is accepted , sorry I forgot , how about someone go over to the football forum and say Kirk should never offer a black QB and see how that goes over.
I think I may have misunderstood you, I think we are actually both on the same side of this issue.
Good call, Sutterman!
I think Fran Mac has made it pretty clear that CJ's redshirt was based on health. Four broken ribs and a very severe concussion after taking a charge in the open court from TC at full gallop.
Shows CJ had maybe more balls than brains cuz he was even skinnier last year. Guessing TC hits as hard as Earl Campbell. To paraphrase Louden Wainwright, CJ got squashed and there you are.
Shows CJ had maybe more balls than brains cuz he was even skinnier last year. Guessing TC hits as hard as Earl Campbell. To paraphrase Louden Wainwright, CJ got squashed and there you are.
I’m just happy in re-reading this thread that I didn’t say anything ridiculous questioning CJ’s potential value to this team!
Oh I read those, trust me. My attempt at humor. What a bunch of trollers and dolts.
CJ is an absolute baller. Man is he really, really, really good.
CJ is an absolute baller. Man is he really, really, really good.
I respect mitjacks posts, but does he feel this way now? We are at 13-5 and CJ is a major part of that. We are missing potential; starters Nunge, Bohannon, and P-Mac. Add to it Fredrick missed 2 games.
So CJ is going to be all conference and a team won the natty with a bunch of white guys. The usual dipshit trolls have been pretty quiet lately.
I love CJ. I think he is a huge part of the team. All around great player far exceeded my expectations.
Assuming the semicolon was misplaced, big stretch to call PMac a potential starter. JBo for sure, Nunge a definite maybe over the long haul.
Agree that CJ is a huge part of the success this year, and I think I speak for most of us hear when I say success over the remainder of the year lies significantly on the health of his foot. Garza and Wieskamp are a tough combo, but we need a credible shooting threat to round things out, and CJ is that threat. I know, preaching to the choir.
A healthy PMac would see reserve minutes for C Mac and Joe Dub in various configurations this season. Next season PMac, JoBo and Nunge are about as much bench as week need to see on the floor next season.
Nunge needs to follow Garzilla everywhere and do every drill that Garzilla drills. His objective should be 75% as good. We'd still have a good back up at 5/ P Mac and maybe a Murray boy getting a few minutes in the four spot gets some depth there. Jordan can easily cover all the bench guard minutes. I think the Indiana kid has a chance to play some minutes if Jordan starts and Joe T comes off the bench, have to get CJ a few bench minutes.
Basically, good team this year and a far better one next year.
Nunge needs to follow Garzilla everywhere and do every drill that Garzilla drills. His objective should be 75% as good. We'd still have a good back up at 5/ P Mac and maybe a Murray boy getting a few minutes in the four spot gets some depth there. Jordan can easily cover all the bench guard minutes. I think the Indiana kid has a chance to play some minutes if Jordan starts and Joe T comes off the bench, have to get CJ a few bench minutes.
Basically, good team this year and a far better one next year.
I thought I had the semicolon edited out. Toussaint has been starting. P-Mac has been rated as high as the 30's. If he had come into the season 100% would he not have a chance to be in the starting rotation? Move Connor back to PG and P-Mac to the 3 or 4.
In fairness if CJ goes scoreless in his next 40 games he will be down to a 3ppg average.
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