Not sure what is going on with him but he pump faked us right out of the tournament. Started up after he got injured with him passing up shots. He is one of the best shooters I have seen here, stop pump faking when you have open clean looks at 3!
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He clearly wasn't 100%, physically or mentally. Fran should have pulled him much sooner.
Same can be said for Wieskamp. The pump fake and pull up 20’er makes zero sense to continually do it.
He should have been benched before the end of the first half.
Ever since the injury CJ has not been the same. I think he can and will be great but he has to let it fly.
Fran played Cmac, CJF, and JBo far too long and it cost us dearly. We may not have won regardless but we had no chance with those 3 playing extended minutes and providing less than nothing.
Especially don’t pass up shots to pass to Connor (or any other players that can’t shoot). Someone needs to tell CJ he is one of our best shooters and to look to score and hunt shots like we saw Weezy do this year.
He is way too good of a player to be playing so passively on offense. Just seems to lack confidence in himself or something since the injury.
I feel bad for CJ. He clearly is no where near close to 100%
And don't forget about Jack; what a shitty, sad year he has had.
When we changed lineups we kept it right around the same scoring difference and even made a run. I think we could have had at least a shot.
It was a huge coaching error to leave that lineup in so long and let Oregon get a huge lead and play with such confidence. They were playing with house money at that point and Iowa was playing with desperation.
Iowa gave up 56 in 1h was the issue, that’s the issue, Why did Fran go zone when Iowa was ahead late in 1h?
You have to play zone if you're going to play CJF, JBo, and CMac. They aren't good enough defenders to guard one on one. The real question, then, is why do you play those 3? Normally, it's because they make up for defensive liability with offensive output. Today, they had no offensive output so the decision to have them out there at all was a poor one.
You're probably not wrong. He's been invisible for that long, if not longer. I just hope he didn't make things worse.This...as in 4 games ago...
He needs to get further behind arc and use quick release to get his shot off. And he has to look for his shot.
He has the ability to be an Alpha dog but he's hurting team by not being aggressive. This Oregon team was
poor matchup for all the Iowa guards.
If I were to put together a team, I think I'd take Garza an 4 of the Ducks and win an NCAA title.
CJ needs the offseason to heal up and/or receive any medical treatments his body needs. We can't forget how good he looked last year. Many thought he would be 'the guy' after Garza and Wieskamp moved on. He still can be a dude, he just needs his find his health first.
Well, I mean they should have. But as the coach, your job is to recognize when they aren't playing well and put someone on the court in their place. That's like job 1 as an in-game coach.
The Hawks ran into a buzz saw today. Now I know how Michigan State felt when we slaughtered them at their place. We couldn't miss from the three and that's the way it was for the ducks today. They're a good team and I take nothing away from them. It's just so disappointed to see Garza go out like this. Although he had a heck of the game. Best Hawkeye ever. And I didn't think I'd ever say that.
Disagree completely...
Iowa was ahead in the last 5 minute of 1h with these guys playing and playing M2M.
Iowa went ftom ahead, to behind 10, all while playing zone, all in last 5 minutes
Actually what you are suggesting is that he should have immediately seen they weren't playing well and anticipated that they weren't going to improve. Three starters that have led the Hawks to a #5 ranking, and he should just sit them.
I haven't found the minutes yet, but I don't think any of them played normal starters minutes.
With 10 minutes left in the first half, we were down 3 and PMac and Keegan were in the lineup...
When you are shut down completely in the entire first half, you're getting torched defensively, and the team is getting decimated, you go a different route. There was ample time to identify that those 3 were not playing well and that other lineups were working much better. Go read the game thread if you want proof of that with every person saying Keegan and Joe T should be starting the second half. It was completely obvious.
Listen, I hear your point. A player like JBo you play a little longer than you normally would another guy that's playing poorly because he could get hot at any time. However, when he's so atrociously bad on defense that it doesn't matter if he gets hot and starts scoring because he's going to give those points back on the defensive end, you sit him.
And hearing Fran say both CJF and Connor were hurt yet he continues to play them? Even more maddening.
Iowa was ahead by four when Joe T and Perkins were taken out of the game for CJ and JB. They were -14 during the last five minutes. They were -6 during the first couple minutes of the 2nd half before Fran called a timeout and put in Joe T, PMac, and Keegan for CMac, JBo, and CJ.
That's a 20-point swing in less than 8 minutes and it was directly related to those three guys being on the court at the same time. It's been obvious to most fans for almost two months that those three on the floor together only works against teams with average athleticism or bad shooters. Oregon had excellent athletes who could all shoot. I would have started Joe T and Keegan Murray instead of JBo and Cmac and I would have given them the type of minutes that Fran usually gives Joe T and Perkins. The matchup absolutely screamed for athletic lineups that could at least keep up with Oregon.
With 4 minutes and 20 sec iowa,up 4, IOWA goes zone, gets blitzed the remaining 4 minutes...
PMac and Keegan contributed from down 3 to,up 4...is that what you are saying?
I think his injury does not allow him to shoot properly and slows him down on defense. He probably should not have played or at least only sparingly.
I'm saying the personnel dictated the defensive strategy. With PMac and Murray in there we made a run and were playing better defense and I think were playing man to man. When you bring JBo back in, you have to play zone because he can't defend.
I’m not disagreeing with much of your assessment, theres been nobody here that has advocated more for better defensive and rebounding rotations.
iowa went zone the last part of the 1st half and git torched, like they did all year in zone, whynfran would think that he could go zone versus Oregon and get different results than all year is the definition of insanity.
no not necessarily. Iowa played much better defense in M2M, not perfect, but significantly better D than when they play zone, and again weve seen over and over what happens when Iowa plays zone, every team becomes 50% 3Pt shooters, and good shooters get hot
id rather see jobo and CJF give up contested 2 footers than give up wide open 3s
They didn’t for good reason. Unfortunately the damage was done and there was no coming back against a good team like that.
Found the minutes. CJ 13, CMac 12. JBo, 19. Combined less than 15 mins each, or a little more than 1/3 of the game.
KM, JT, PMac and Ulis - averaged 15.5 min.
It will be interesting to see the +/-.
Well that would be equally as bad of coaching if you decided that. You'd much rather an opposing team be shooting 3s instead of getting free in the lane. Much lower percentage shooting 3s than 2s, allowing dribble drives leads to foul trouble on Iowa's part.
Oregon made the 3s which is unfortunate. It was the right decision to play zone if you were going to play CJF, CMac, and JBo together. It was simply the wrong decision to play those 3 together today.
You two guys are making great points in your conversation. I'm enjoying the insights. They're about the only thing I've enjoyed today.
I would be curious to see it as well but on the other hand that doesn’t take into account state of the game.
A 0-0 game is different than one where the other team is playing with complete confidence and the other is playing with complete desperation because they are down 20 points and the clock is against them.
Disagree. It’s never the right decision for iowa to,play zone.
in zone this team is +100 defensive team (regardless of personne)
in M2m they were a top 20 defensive team (regardless of personnel)
iowa went from up 4 to down 10 in 4 minutes of zone,
doing the same thing and expecting different results is insanity
Probably happened today seeing they were burned off the dribble consistently
