Clinton supporters and Surrogates are incredibly dishonest

[YellowSnow51]

This time with their crazy attempt to paint Sanders, the Socialist, as being against a government bailout of auto unions.

This lying shill Granholm is doing a lot of "what Hilary meant by that was..." nonsense that people do when they know they are defending a liar.

I mean, the record shows that one of the earliest proponents of helping the auto industry was Sanders. He wanted Stimulus money to go towards it for chrissakes. He then voted FOR a stand alone bill that didn't get off the ground.

When the Clintons deregulated Wall Street, voted for Iraq (which were big factors in causing the economy to crash in the first place) and jammed NAFTA through which crushed the auto industry, it was THEM who were the reason they all needed bailouts in the first place.

Amazing so many Democrats are able to overlook that. No principles whatsoever. I mean, how in the blue hell are you going to sit there and pretend the SOCIALIST was against a government bailout of the auto unions. How dishonest can you be?

 

[soybean]

This time with their crazy attempt to paint Sanders, the Socialist, as being against a government bailout of auto unions.

This lying shill Granholm is doing a lot of "what Hilary meant by that was..." nonsense that people do when they know they are defending a liar.

I mean, the record shows that one of the earliest proponents of helping the auto industry was Sanders. He wanted Stimulus money to go towards it for chrissakes. He then voted FOR a stand alone bill that didn't get off the ground.

When the Clintons deregulated Wall Street, voted for Iraq (which were big factors in causing the economy to crash in the first place) and jammed NAFTA through which crushed the auto industry, it was THEM who were the reason they all needed bailouts in the first place.

Amazing so many Democrats are able to overlook that. No principles whatsoever. I mean, how in the blue hell are you going to sit there and pretend the SOCIALIST was against a government bailout of the auto unions. How dishonest can you be?

Talk about misleading.

 

[YellowSnow51]

Talk about misleading.

Didn't the unions and the pensioners benefit the most while shareholders were given cents on the dollars for their shares? It was the UAW workers who were the poster boys and rallying cry for why we should bail them out. Or were you asleep for the whole thing?

 

[naturalmwa]

YS you should ask Clinton for a job.

 

[YellowSnow51]

YS you should ask Clinton for a job.

You think? What would be my title? "Secretary of tappin dat azz"?

 

[Raglefant]

You think? What would be my title? "Secretary of tappin dat azz"?

I'd say either Deputy Director of Donkey Insemination or Secretary of Dumbshittery.

 

[moral_victory]

 

[joelbc1]

This time with their crazy attempt to paint Sanders, the Socialist, as being against a government bailout of auto unions.

This lying shill Granholm is doing a lot of "what Hilary meant by that was..." nonsense that people do when they know they are defending a liar.

I mean, the record shows that one of the earliest proponents of helping the auto industry was Sanders. He wanted Stimulus money to go towards it for chrissakes. He then voted FOR a stand alone bill that didn't get off the ground.

When the Clintons deregulated Wall Street, voted for Iraq (which were big factors in causing the economy to crash in the first place) and jammed NAFTA through which crushed the auto industry, it was THEM who were the reason they all needed bailouts in the first place.

Amazing so many Democrats are able to overlook that. No principles whatsoever. I mean, how in the blue hell are you going to sit there and pretend the SOCIALIST was against a government bailout of the auto unions. How dishonest can you be?

Yellow...I suggest you not listen to her. I didn't. The "auto bailout" is no different than any other of thousands of corporate welfare programs the governments of the United States engage in every day. We bailout banks, bailout insurance companies, bailout farmers, bailout utility companies, bailout the defense industry, bailout schools (public and private), bailout manufacturing companies, bailout the construction industry...You name, "we the people" bail their asses out......In Ioway a couple of years ago (2012), "the State" and the county governments absolutely gave the house away (the largest tax incentive deal ever in Ioway history, $133M) to an Egyptian fertilizer (Orascom) company in the promise of new jobs (150 or so).........Last week the construction folks for this project have packed up and gone home because this "international giant" of fertilizer owes them for several months of work.
Yellow..... your ire is understood but it is misplaced.

 

[YellowSnow51]

Yellow..... your ire is understood but it is misplaced.

My ire that Hillary is a lying panderer and her shills have trouble defending her lies is exactly where it needs to be.

 

[dgordo]

Didn't the unions and the pensioners benefit the most while shareholders were given cents on the dollars for their shares? It was the UAW workers who were the poster boys and rallying cry for why we should bail them out. Or were you asleep for the whole thing?

I think you are confused, the bailout didn't rescue the shareholders.

 

[Old_wrestling_fan]

Yellow...I suggest you not listen to her. I didn't. The "auto bailout" is no different than any other of thousands of corporate welfare programs the governments of the United States engage in every day. We bailout banks, bailout insurance companies, bailout farmers, bailout utility companies, bailout the defense industry, bailout schools (public and private), bailout manufacturing companies, bailout the construction industry...You name, "we the people" bail their asses out......In Ioway a couple of years ago (2012), "the State" and the county governments absolutely gave the house away (the largest tax incentive deal ever in Ioway history, $133M) to an Egyptian fertilizer (Orascom) company in the promise of new jobs (150 or so).........Last week the construction folks for this project have packed up and gone home because this "international giant" of fertilizer owes them for several months of work.
Yellow..... your ire is understood but it is misplaced.

Could you name a time when the gov't bailed out the construction industry?

Regarding the fertilizer plant...you seem to indicate that the construction folks left the job in Wever...I'll ask, did anyone remain? Why did the firms(s) leaving actually leave? Because I am familiar with some of the goings on at that site...I suspect you do not have a clue about what you are talking about here. Tell us more...

 

[irunlikeAcieEarl]

"I lie, so what?"

 

[naturalmwa]

Could you name a time when the gov't bailed out the construction industry?

Regarding the fertilizer plant...you seem to indicate that the construction folks left the job in Wever...I'll ask, did anyone remain? Why did the firms(s) leaving actually leave? Because I am familiar with some of the goings on at that site...I suspect you do not have a clue about what you are talking about here. Tell us more...

By the logic in the OP, anytime the government pays to build anything, it's a construction industry bailout.

 

[YellowSnow51]

I think you are confused, the bailout didn't rescue the shareholders.

I think I'm thinking of the Chrystler/ Fiat fiasco.

 

[YellowSnow51]

By the logic in the OP, anytime the government pays to build anything, it's a construction industry bailout.

Where do you get that? The OP is about Hillary's lie, painting Sanders against the auto bailout. Where does "my logic" come into play regarding the government?

 

[naturalmwa]

Where do you get that? The OP is about Hillary's lie, painting Sanders against the auto bailout. Where does "my logic" come into play regarding the government?

You applied the logic that whomever benefits from the action was the target of the bailout.

 

[joelbc1]

Could you name a time when the gov't bailed out the construction industry?

Regarding the fertilizer plant...you seem to indicate that the construction folks left the job in Wever...I'll ask, did anyone remain? Why did the firms(s) leaving actually leave? Because I am familiar with some of the goings on at that site...I suspect you do not have a clue about what you are talking about here. Tell us more...

Federal guaranteed home loans...Interstate Highway system contracts....mortgage tax deductions would be a couple of examples of how the government bails out the construction industry. Tax abatements for new housing would be another.

Orascom ought to pay is contractors as agreed and in a timely manner. God knows the State and local governments whored themselves to the max to get this construction contract. I would think an agreement is a two way street.
This is but another example of Teflon Terry practicing his particular brand of crony capitalism at the expense of "we the people." It is also another example of a large corporation screwing the middle class.

 

[Old_wrestling_fan]

Federal guaranteed home loans...Interstate Highway system contracts....mortgage tax deductions would be a couple of examples of how the government bails out the construction industry. Tax abatements for new housing would be another.

Orascom ought to pay is contractors as agreed and in a timely manner. God knows the State and local governments whored themselves to the max to get this construction contract. I would think an agreement is a two way street.
This is but another example of Teflon Terry practicing his particular brand of crony capitalism at the expense of "we the people." It is also another example of a large corporation screwing the middle class.

Well I guess our respective definitions of the word "bailout" are significantly different.

Definition of bailout - an act of giving financial assistance to a failing business or economy to save it from collapse.

You are listing various and sundry gov't programs that may well benefit the construction industry...but not necessarily "bail it out". With your wide open definition...everything would be a bailout.

You obviously have no real knowledge or understanding of the various situations at the Wever project. Should Orascom pay their contractors if the contractor(s) do not fulfill their contract?

 

[YellowSnow51]

You applied the logic that whomever benefits from the action was the target of the bailout.

It was obvious who was getting bailed out BEFORE it was actually proven to help them. I'm cursed by a decent memory.

 

[artradley]

This time with their crazy attempt to paint Sanders, the Socialist, as being against a government bailout of auto unions.

This lying shill Granholm is doing a lot of "what Hilary meant by that was..." nonsense that people do when they know they are defending a liar.

I mean, the record shows that one of the earliest proponents of helping the auto industry was Sanders. He wanted Stimulus money to go towards it for chrissakes. He then voted FOR a stand alone bill that didn't get off the ground.

When the Clintons deregulated Wall Street, voted for Iraq (which were big factors in causing the economy to crash in the first place) and jammed NAFTA through which crushed the auto industry, it was THEM who were the reason they all needed bailouts in the first place.

Amazing so many Democrats are able to overlook that. No principles whatsoever. I mean, how in the blue hell are you going to sit there and pretend the SOCIALIST was against a government bailout of the auto unions. How dishonest can you be?

With Trump as the darling of the GOP base, I'm not sure playing the "honesty" card is particularly persuasive this election.

 

[RockEyeState]

My ire that Hillary is a lying panderer and her shills have trouble defending her lies is exactly where it needs to be.

She's going to Jail.
And anyone who votes, or voted for should be REQUIRED to visit Rodham, in
Prison.

Hillary for Prison '16 !

 

[YellowSnow51]

With Trump as the darling of the GOP base, I'm not sure playing the "honesty" card is particularly persuasive this election.

True. But this election has nothing to do with Hillary's dishonesty.