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CNN: Fact-checking Biden’s high-stakes ABC interview

Finally maybe we can put the bleach BS to rest. Trump has told enough lies and said enough dumb stuff that we can just stick to what he really said and not have to embellish stories.
 
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Finally maybe we can put the bleach BS to rest. Trump has told enough lies and said enough dumb stuff that we can just stick to what he really said and not have to embellish stories.
That's the most amazing thing to me. As much stupid shit as Trump puts out the left still has to lie and make things up about him, totally unaware how their cultist behavior actually is interpreted by non hivemind individuals
 
Anyone else ever an open an article, see it's from FoxNews, and immediately feel like they've been tricked into picking up the National Enquirer in a grocery store check-out line?

The headline and first article are from CNN. The second post is from Fox News.
 
(CNN) - President Joe Biden sat down with ABC anchor George Stephanopoulos for a high-stakes interview on Friday, the week after a poor debate performance prompted questions about his fitness for the presidency and calls for him to withdraw from the 2024 race.

Here is a fact check of some of Biden’s claims in the interview.

New York Times polling​

Biden claimed that “the New York Times had me down 10 points before the debate, nine now, or whatever the hell it is.”


Facts First: Biden’s claim that he gained a point in New York Times polling after the debate is false. In fact, the Times’ post-debate poll, conducted with Siena College, showed Biden doing three points worse against former President Donald Trump than he had done in the final Times/Siena poll before the debate.

Biden’s specific numbers were also wrong. He was not “down 10 points before the debate” in Times/Siena polling. In fact, he was down three percentage points with likely voters and six percentage points with registered voters. In the Times/Siena poll after the debate, those margins grew to six percentage points with likely voters and nine percentage points with registered voters.

Biden did acknowledge his uncertainty about the data when he said “or whatever the hell it is.” But he was wrong, nonetheless.

Sen. Mark Warner and the presidency​

When Stephanopoulos noted a Friday report in The Washington Post that said Democratic Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia is trying to put together a group of fellow Democratic senators to ask Biden to withdraw from the election, Biden responded, “Well, Mark is a good man. We’ve never had that – he also tried to get the nomination too. Mark’s not – Mark and I have a different perspective. I respect him.”

Facts First: Biden’s claim that “he also tried to get the nomination too” needs context. Warner has never run for the Democratic presidential nomination. He did make extensive preparations for a possible run for the 2008 nomination, including hiring staff and raising millions for a political action committee, but he announced in October 2006 that he had decided not to launch a campaign after all. And he has not sought the nomination since then.

Biden did run in that 2008 presidential primary, which was won by Barack Obama.

Trump and bleach​

Biden repeated his familiar claim that Trump “is a guy who told us to put bleach in our arms to deal with Covid.”

Facts First: Biden’s claim is misleading. Trump never portrayed his ill-informed and widely denounced musings about using disinfectants to address Covid-19 as advice to Americans. Rather, Trump was talking about the possibility of scientists conducting tests of this idea.

Trump made his remarks, at a press briefing in April 2020 after Bill Bryan, the acting undersecretary of science and technology for the Department of Homeland Security, outlined tests in which he said sunlight or disinfectants like bleach and isopropyl alcohol quickly killed the coronavirus on surfaces and in saliva.

When Trump jumped shortly afterward to the dangerous idea of injecting disinfectants inside people’s bodies, he said: “And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So we’ll see.”

Trump’s comments were slammed by medical experts as highly dangerous, and they prompted urgent warnings from public health authorities and companies that sell household disinfectants. But he never actually said he was suggesting citizens go and use such products.

Trump and jobs​

Biden repeated another one of his regular campaign claims about his Republican opponent, saying Trump was the only president other than Herbert Hoover “who lost more jobs than he created.”

Facts First: This is true, but Biden left out some important context. While there was a loss of about 2.7 million jobs from the beginning of Trump’s four-year term to the end, there was a gain of about 6.7 million jobs until the Covid-19 pandemic hit the country about three years into that term.

Nearly 22 million jobs were lost under Trump in March 2020 and April 2020 when the global economy cratered on account of the pandemic. The US then started regaining jobs immediately, adding more than 12 million from May 2020 through December 2020, but not enough to make up the massive early-pandemic losses.
 
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Biden loves him some lies, damn lies, and statistics
Show me a politician that doesn't lie and I'll sell you some ocean front property in Arizona.

James Corden GIF by The Late Late Show with James Corden
 
Show me a politician that doesn't lie and I'll sell you some ocean front property in Arizona.

James Corden GIF by The Late Late Show with James Corden
No argument here, but I can show you one who claims to be honest, to know and tell the truth, who said he was going to bring back honor and decency to the WH.

And everytime he opens his mouth he's repeating a debunked lie
 
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No argument here, but I can show you one who claims to be honest, to know and tell the truth, who said he was going to bring back honor and decency to the WH.

And everytime he opens his mouth he's repeating a debunked lie
So Trump is the better option because he doesn't claim to tell the truth, embraces the lies and spews them like gospel? Please tell me that's not what you're trying to say here.

Politico fact checked both candidates (from the debate) and Trump had 34 lies, compared to Biden's 9 (given, there may have been a few more from Joe, but we couldn't always understand or follow what he was saying).
 
So Trump is the better option because he doesn't claim to tell the truth, embraces the lies and spews them like gospel? Please tell me that's not what you're trying to say here.

Politico fact checked both candidates (from the debate) and Trump had 34 lies, compared to Biden's 9 (given, there may have been a few more from Joe, but we couldn't always understand or follow what he was saying).
1. If leftist politico says it then it must be true (lol)

2. It's hard to fact check biden when he's not even saying words. How are they gonna fact check him mumbling incoherently either way?



I guess you could make the case that joe isn't lying by default of being retarded and not knowing his race, gender or what year it is. As long as he's giving his goodest effort though he is happy :)
 
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So Trump is the better option because he doesn't claim to tell the truth, embraces the lies and spews them like gospel? Please tell me that's not what you're trying to say here.

Politico fact checked both candidates (from the debate) and Trump had 34 lies, compared to Biden's 9 (given, there may have been a few more from Joe, but we couldn't always understand or follow what he was saying).
No, I'm not saying one candidate is better than the other. Only that one we know is a liar, and he was relentlessly fact checked and challenged in real time.

The other isn't any more honest than the other but is now finally getting fact checked albeit respectfully, but he's never challenged in real time.

GS could have easily stopped Joe yesterday and said Mr President, I know you are an honest guy, but the bleach thing isn't true, you know that right?
 
1. If leftist politico says it then it must be true (lol)

2. It's hard to fact check biden when he's not even saying words. How are they gonna fact check him mumbling incoherently either way?



I guess you could make the case that joe isn't lying by default of being retarded and not knowing his race, gender or what year it is. As long as he's giving his goodest effort though he is happy :)

If biden tweeted out that he never told a lie I would totally believe it and use it as evidence he never lies and excuse all the evidence that he does, in fact, lie.

THIS IS A PROJECT 2025 REFERENCE, SCRUDDY. DO YOU GET IT????
 
No, I'm not saying one candidate is better than the other. Only that one we know is a liar, and he was relentlessly fact checked and challenged in real time.

The other isn't any more honest than the other but is now finally getting fact checked albeit respectfully, but he's never challenged in real time.

GS could have easily stopped Joe yesterday and said Mr President, I know you are an honest guy, but the bleach thing isn't true, you know that right?
I wouldn't call joe a more honest person given he's had to drop out of multiple previous elections due to plagiarism but that's getting into semantics I suppose
 
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I wouldn't call joe a more honest person given he's had to drop out of multiple previous elections due to plagiarism but that's getting into semantics I suppose
I didn't say ge was more honest, just more insulated by the people we are suppose to blindly trust as experts and honesty brokers
 
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I didn't say ge was more honest, just more insulated by the people we are suppose to blindly trust as experts and honesty brokers
Watching the media erode their trust and profitability simultaneously is fun to watch in real time at least.
 
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