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College Football Playoff picks after Week 5: Alabama, Georgia, Penn State, Cincinnati. Next is IOWA

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There are 13 ESPN Voters on the panel.

Iowa -- coming off a close call against Colorado State last week -- was selected on 7 of the 13 ballots this week following a 51-14 road rout of previously undefeated Maryland on Friday night. The Hawkeyes turned their opponent over seven times in a statement win and solidified their spot in the top five this season. The victory set up a crucial Big Ten matchup next week, with Iowa welcoming Penn State to Iowa City.

The Nittany Lions also proved they are worthy of the CFP with a 24-0 win against Indiana on Saturday night that landed them 11 picks. Penn State's game against the Hawkeyes next week will certainly be a litmus test for both teams, but a loss doesn't necessarily knock either out of their respective Big Ten division races or the CFP conversation.

In what was a huge win for the Group of 5, the Cincinnati Bearcats knocked off Notre Dame in South Bend, Indiana, and firmly put their names in the running to become the first Group of 5 school to make the CFP. It was the first time a Group of 5 squad beat a top-10 team on the road. The historic victory landed the Bearcats on eight ballots, their most of the season.

Oregon fell out of the picks after a 31-24 loss in overtime at Stanford on Saturday. The defeat drops the Pac-12 out of the playoff conversation -- for now -- and the western-most team in our writers' picks is now Iowa.

The five-team field this week is the smallest of the year thus far.



The 13 ESPN Voters:

Andrea Adelson:
1. Georgia, 2. Alabama, 3. Iowa, 4. Cincinnati
Kyle Bonagura: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Penn State, 4. Cincinnati
Bill Connelly: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Cincinnati, 4. Penn State
Heather Dinich: 1. Georgia, 2. Alabama, 3. Iowa, 4. Penn State
David M. Hale: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Cincinnati, 4. Penn State
Chris Low: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Iowa, 4. Cincinnati
Harry Lyles Jr.: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Penn State, 4. Cincinnati
Ryan McGee: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Penn State, 4. Cincinnati
Adam Rittenberg: 1. Georgia, 2. Alabama, 3. Iowa, 4. Penn State
Alex Scarborough: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Penn State, 4. Cincinnati
Mark Schlabach: 1. Georgia, 2. Alabama, 3. Iowa, 4. Penn State
Tom VanHaaren: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Penn State, 4. Iowa
Dave Wilson: 1. Georgia, 2. Alabama, 3. Iowa, 4. Penn State


Most Popular Playoff Picks​

TEAM (RECORD)VOTES
Alabama (5-0)13/13
Georgia (5-0)13/13
Penn State (5-0)11/13
Cincinnati (4-0)8/13
Iowa (5-0)7/13



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The 13 ESPN Voters:

Andrea Adelson: 1. Georgia, 2. Alabama, 3. Iowa, 4. Cincinnati
Kyle Bonagura: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Penn State, 4. Cincinnati
Bill Connelly: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Cincinnati, 4. Penn State
Heather Dinich: 1. Georgia, 2. Alabama, 3. Iowa, 4. Penn State
David M. Hale: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Cincinnati, 4. Penn State
Chris Low: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Iowa, 4. Cincinnati
Harry Lyles Jr.: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Penn State, 4. Cincinnati
Ryan McGee: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Penn State, 4. Cincinnati
Adam Rittenberg: 1. Georgia, 2. Alabama, 3. Iowa, 4. Penn State
Alex Scarborough: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Penn State, 4. Cincinnati
Mark Schlabach: 1. Georgia, 2. Alabama, 3. Iowa, 4. Penn State
Tom VanHaaren: 1. Alabama, 2. Georgia, 3. Penn State, 4. Iowa
Dave Wilson: 1. Georgia, 2. Alabama, 3. Iowa, 4. Penn State


Most Popular Playoff Picks​

TEAM (RECORD)VOTES
Alabama (5-0)13/13
Georgia (5-0)13/13
Penn State (5-0)11/13
Cincinnati (4-0)8/13
Iowa (5-0)7/13



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Replace Alabama and Georgia with Iowa and Penn State. In that order
 
I know its the B&G glasses talking, but still getting some disrespect after what Iowa's done this season (so far).

Only on 7 of the 13 voters Top4?! And PSU on 11 of them?!?


Like @bojihawk44 said above, win next weekend and prove the worthiness.


And maybe Cincinnati is getting too much respect?

And lets compare schedules.

* Cincinnati will only play TWO Power 5 schools.
* Iowa plays 10 Power 5 schools.


Cincinnati's ONLY Power 5 wins?

Unranked
Indiana (by 14)
#9
Notre Dame (by 11)


Will these 2 wins be enough if they go 12-0?


Their remaining Cupcake Schedule:

W-Miami Ohio
W-Murray State
Temple
UCF
at Navy
at Tulane
vs Tulsa
at South Florida
vs SMU
at East Carolina
 
And maybe Cincinnati is getting too much respect?

And lets compare schedules.

* Cincinnati will only play TWO Power 5 schools.
* Iowa plays 10 Power 5 schools.


Cincinnati's ONLY Power 5 wins?

Unranked
Indiana (by 14)
#9
Notre Dame (by 11)


Will these 2 wins be enough if they go 12-0?


Their remaining Cupcake Schedule:
W-Miami Ohio
W-Murray State
Temple
UCF
at Navy
at Tulane
vs Tulsa
at South Florida
vs SMU
at East Carolina
Common opponent, Indiana.
 
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Never thought of ESPN or their power rankings to be accurate. They try to generate drama to get clicks.
 
Joey has IOWA #3.

Jesse has IOWA #4.

They both have Penn State at #5.



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Given our schedule I would imagine the FPI chance of Iowa making CFP will go up exponentially if we can make it through next Saturday. Not that it matters anyway.
 
Cincy plays two power 5 teams. Iowa plays two teams that are not power 5 teams.

We can end the conversation with this.


Also, everyone wants to talk about this. But it’s not hard to look at their schedule and pick one game to travel to. Show me all their fans that travel to Tulane.
 
And maybe Cincinnati is getting too much respect?

And lets compare schedules.

* Cincinnati will only play TWO Power 5 schools.
* Iowa plays 10 Power 5 schools.


Cincinnati's ONLY Power 5 wins?

Unranked
Indiana (by 14)
#9
Notre Dame (by 11)


Will these 2 wins be enough if they go 12-0?


Their remaining Cupcake Schedule:
W-Miami Ohio
W-Murray State
Temple
UCF
at Navy
at Tulane
vs Tulsa
at South Florida
vs SMU
at East Carolina

There's some tricky teams for them near the back half there, I would honestly be surprised if they didn't trip up. I haven't been blown away after watching their two biggest wins. Indiana should have won their game.
 

In case you missed it, this is an excellent article that I posted at NOON time today.

“Anything is possible,” Ferentz said by phone on Saturday, calling after he’d slept a few hours and watched the Maryland film. “Certainly, we were close in 2015. With the system the way it is now, we’d have been in the discussion in 2002.

“For us to be in that discussion, things have to fall right and we have to take every game like it’s our last game. That’s the world we live in. We’re used to that.”


 
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Jerry Palm's Final Four:

#1 Alabama vs #4 Oklahoma (Orange Bowl, Miami, Dec 31)

#2 Georgia vs #3 IOWA (Cotton Bowl, Arlington, TX, Dec 31)



The new projected No. 3 seed is Iowa. The Hawkeyes have been the best team in the Big Ten through the first five weeks of the season. Certainly, no other team in the Big Ten West has been anywhere near the quality of Iowa. The Hawkeyes destroyed Maryland 51-14 on the road on Friday night.

The loss by Oregon drops the Ducks to the Pac-12 spot in the Rose Bowl as the expected league champion. They are projected to face Big Ten runner-up Penn State.




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Notre Dame is consistently overrated so I’m not surprised that they are giving Cincinnati so much praise because they beat another overhyped team. Unfortunately for Cincy, if Iowa happened to win out, we play in the B10 and will make the playoffs.
 
FIveThiryEight has these 4 in the CFP:

Georgia......................65% chance of Making CFP
Alabama....................60% chance of Making CFP
Oklahoma.................40% chance of Making CFP
IOWA.........................30% chance of Making CFP

Next 4 On the Outside, Looking In:

Cincinnati................26% chance of Making CFP
Ohio State...............22% chance of Making CFP
Michigan..................20% chance of Making CFP
Penn State...............16% chance of Making CFP


LINK: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2021-college-football-predictions/
 
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College football desperately needs new teams in the mix for a National Championship.
fans are sick and tired of Alabama.
the fact that Clemson is out of the picture is good for college football.

in the first 2 years (2014-2015) of the college playoffs, these teams made the playoffs:
Alabama
Oregon
Florida State
Ohio State
Clemson
Michigan State
Oklahoma

in the last 5 years, only 4 new teams have been introduced to the college playoffs.

there needs to be diversity, parity, newness, freshness in college football
this same old same old is getting stale.

really... I think they should expand the playoffs to 16 teams effective immediately.
upsets happen all the time... put more teams... you never know what might happen.
 
Seems Iowa should have better odds than Pennies State. Penn State likely needs to beat Iowa and Ohio St and/or Michigan and then win Big Ten Title game.

Iowa likely has a path to playoff even if they lose Saturday.
 
Whats gonna suck is Bama & Georgia don't play in the reg season & are on a collision course to meet in the SEC Title game. Winner gets #1 seed in the CFP, loser gets #2 seed.

That leaves 2 spots for the 3 remaining contenders (from the B1G, Big 12, and Group of 5 ).

The ACC & PAC 12 seem to have already been eliminated from CFP consideration.

And tOSU might be a huge threat by season's end.


Today's Story from ESPN.com:

The great wide divide​

The narrative around college football, at least in some locales, has been that the sport is becoming boring with the same teams winning all of the time. Something says we'll hear even more of that as Alabama and Georgia continue to steamroll everybody. The chances of those two schools playing in the SEC championship game, then turning around and playing again in the College Football Playoff, are real. Very real. About as real as the fact that those two schools invest tons of resources and then reinvest even more resources in their football programs.

But don't blame Alabama and Georgia or any of the College Football Playoff regulars each year for the sport allegedly becoming dull. Blame those conferences that aren't carrying their weight.

Here we are (again) not even at the midway point of October, and the Pac-12 appears to be on the outside looking in when it comes to the playoff. Oregon's overtime loss to Stanford on Saturday was crushing for the league, and there are no unbeatens left in the Alliance's "West Coast division." Sure, the sport is more fun when USC is elite, and for that matter, even just relevant. But the onus is on everybody else to catch up.

Let's not forget that the goal when we went down the playoff road was to get the best four teams in and not the best four teams from each part of the country.

Who knows? Maybe there will be some new blood this year. If Cincinnati goes unbeaten and doesn't get in, it's safe to say a Group of 5 team will never make the playoff in a four-team format. -- Chris Low

It's time to start paying attention to Ohio State again​

Penn State, Iowa and Michigan have stolen the spotlight since the Buckeyes lost to Oregon in Week 2, but while everyone has been arguing over whether Penn State or Iowa deserves to be ranked higher, the Buckeyes are quietly starting to look capable of beating them both.

"It was some tough times here, but we grew through it," coach Ryan Day said after beating Rutgers 52-13. "We didn't panic, and in that we might have a good team as we head into October, November."

That's exactly when it matters the most.

Quarterback C.J. Stroud threw five touchdown passes and no interceptions after missing a game with a shoulder injury. The Buckeyes have found their offensive groove, scoring on their first six possessions against Rutgers, and the defense snagged a pick-six. It was arguably the most complete game they've played, and while the competition will get more difficult, Ohio State looks more prepared for it.

Ohio State is generating more offense right now than Penn State, Iowa and Cincinnati, with an average of 555.6 yards per game, 39.4 points per game and 8.57 yards per play.

According to the Allstate Playoff Predictor, Ohio State still has the best chance to win the Big Ten (37%), followed by Iowa (31%), Michigan (17%) and Penn State (8%). The Buckeyes are also still favored to win the Big Ten East (51%), followed by Michigan (26%). There are plenty of opportunities for Ohio State to compensate for its loss to Oregon, and right now, ESPN's Football Power Index projects the Buckeyes to win all of them. -- Heather Dinich


 
Whats gonna suck is Bama & Georgia don't play in the reg season & are on a collision course to meet in the SEC Title game. Winner gets #1 seed in the CFP, loser gets #2 seed.

That leaves 2 spots for the 3 remaining contenders (from the B1G, Big 12, and Group of 5 ).

The ACC & PAC 12 seem to have already been eliminated from CFP consideration.

And tOSU might be a huge threat by season's end.


Today's Story from ESPN.com:

The great wide divide​

The narrative around college football, at least in some locales, has been that the sport is becoming boring with the same teams winning all of the time. Something says we'll hear even more of that as Alabama and Georgia continue to steamroll everybody. The chances of those two schools playing in the SEC championship game, then turning around and playing again in the College Football Playoff, are real. Very real. About as real as the fact that those two schools invest tons of resources and then reinvest even more resources in their football programs.

But don't blame Alabama and Georgia or any of the College Football Playoff regulars each year for the sport allegedly becoming dull. Blame those conferences that aren't carrying their weight.

Here we are (again) not even at the midway point of October, and the Pac-12 appears to be on the outside looking in when it comes to the playoff. Oregon's overtime loss to Stanford on Saturday was crushing for the league, and there are no unbeatens left in the Alliance's "West Coast division." Sure, the sport is more fun when USC is elite, and for that matter, even just relevant. But the onus is on everybody else to catch up.

Let's not forget that the goal when we went down the playoff road was to get the best four teams in and not the best four teams from each part of the country.

Who knows? Maybe there will be some new blood this year. If Cincinnati goes unbeaten and doesn't get in, it's safe to say a Group of 5 team will never make the playoff in a four-team format. -- Chris Low

It's time to start paying attention to Ohio State again​

Penn State, Iowa and Michigan have stolen the spotlight since the Buckeyes lost to Oregon in Week 2, but while everyone has been arguing over whether Penn State or Iowa deserves to be ranked higher, the Buckeyes are quietly starting to look capable of beating them both.

"It was some tough times here, but we grew through it," coach Ryan Day said after beating Rutgers 52-13. "We didn't panic, and in that we might have a good team as we head into October, November."

That's exactly when it matters the most.

Quarterback C.J. Stroud threw five touchdown passes and no interceptions after missing a game with a shoulder injury. The Buckeyes have found their offensive groove, scoring on their first six possessions against Rutgers, and the defense snagged a pick-six. It was arguably the most complete game they've played, and while the competition will get more difficult, Ohio State looks more prepared for it.

Ohio State is generating more offense right now than Penn State, Iowa and Cincinnati, with an average of 555.6 yards per game, 39.4 points per game and 8.57 yards per play.

According to the Allstate Playoff Predictor, Ohio State still has the best chance to win the Big Ten (37%), followed by Iowa (31%), Michigan (17%) and Penn State (8%). The Buckeyes are also still favored to win the Big Ten East (51%), followed by Michigan (26%). There are plenty of opportunities for Ohio State to compensate for its loss to Oregon, and right now, ESPN's Football Power Index projects the Buckeyes to win all of them. -- Heather Dinich


what if Alabama and Georgia are both undefeated going into the SEC Championship game..
and..
Iowa and Michigan are both undefeated going into the Big Ten Championship game.

and lets say Georgia wins and Iowa wins...


who gets left out and why ?
 
what if Alabama and Georgia are both undefeated going into the SEC Championship game..
and..
Iowa and Michigan are both undefeated going into the Big Ten Championship game.

and lets say Georgia wins and Iowa wins...


who gets left out and why ?

Probably Michigan

Why? IMO, because there has been this long-held belief that there is a top-tier that includes only Alabama and Georgia and that there is a huge gap after those two teams and the 2nd tier.
 
Probably Michigan

Why? IMO, because there has been this long-held belief that there is a top-tier that includes only Alabama and Georgia and that there is a huge gap after those two teams and the 2nd tier.
yea, you're probably right..
I don't really care... I don't believe the current system is legitimate... its purely based on imagination... and I have the strong opinion that every team deserves a chance to earn a spot.

how exciting would it be right now if there was a 16 team playoff?
 
Still need to make it a rule that no conference gets 2 teams in, period. Whomever loses between GA\AL will drop to #3 and both will be in. It's a freaking sham. If that is how NCAA wants it, then just let the SEC play with themselves...and the rest can go have a true playoff (like FCS).
 
yea, you're probably right..
I don't really care... I don't believe the current system is legitimate... its purely based on imagination... and I have the strong opinion that every team deserves a chance to earn a spot.

how exciting would it be right now if there was a 16 team playoff?

The current system involves too much bias. The SEC /ESPN is one giant propaganda machine. A one loss Georgia or Alabama has nothing to worry about based on what we have been told. And one league getting 50% of the teams in the CFP does not seems fair, but the SEC/ESPN does not care about what is fair.

If the SEC gets 2 teams in and if Cincy is 13-0, that probably leaves one CFP spot remaining for the B1G/Big 12/PAC 12/ACC. Crazy.

I am all for an expanded playoff; it will just be interesting on the rules for who gets selected. Will there be a league limit? Which conference champions are automatic qualifiers? How is the revenue divided up?
 
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The current system involves too much bias. The SEC /ESPN is one giant propaganda machine. A one loss Georgia or Alabama has nothing to worry about based on what we have been told. And one league getting 50% of the teams in the CFP does not seems fair, but the SEC/ESPN does not care about what is fair.

If the SEC gets 2 teams in and if Cincy is 13-0, that probably leaves one CFP spot remaining for the B1G/Big 12/PAC 12/ACC. Crazy.

I am all for an expanded playoff; it will just be interesting on the rules for who gets selected. Will there be a league limit? Which conference champions are automatic qualifiers? How is the revenue divided up?
yea, at this point I have no confidence in the NCAA...
but if it were fair.. there would be 10 conference winners with automatic spots in the Playoffs.

you make an interesting point... the SEC only plays 8 conference games... most of them only play 9 Power5 teams all season.. and they all play extra creamy cream puffs...

Alabama plays Mercer, Southern Miss, and New Mexico State
(3 extra creamy cream puffs)

so.... they get a weaker schedule... they are held to a lower standard then everybody else in College Football.. meaning 1 loss doesn't effect them like it does every body else... and they get the higher rankings in the polls.

this can only be possible using the power of propaganda
 
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yea, at this point I have no confidence in the NCAA...
but if it were fair.. there would be 10 conference winners with automatic spots in the Playoffs.

you make an interesting point... the SEC only plays 8 conference games... most of them only play 9 Power5 teams all season.. and they all play extra creamy cream puffs...

Alabama plays Mercer, Southern Miss, and New Mexico State
(3 extra creamy cream puffs)

so.... they get a weaker schedule... they are held to a lower standard then everybody else in College Football.. meaning 1 loss doesn't effect them like it does every body else... and they get the higher rankings in the polls.

this can only be possible using the power of propaganda

Unfortunately, 1 loss does not appear to be hurting tOSU, either.

There is a lot of media talking about tOSU getting things corrected and that with their talent, they likely go on a run, all the way to the CFP.

But, lets face it, if it had been Iowa who had lost to Oregon, our CFP hopes would be over.

And many consider Oregon's CFP hopes over after losing to Stanford but if it came down to choosing between a 1 loss B1G Champion tOSU and a 1 loss PAC 12 Champion Oregon, who do you think the CFP Committee would choose? They'd have to choose Oregon, right?
 
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