They are kids!
Wrong. They are young men.
I don't see any pictures of college football players here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=kid...hVLzIMKHXbeDM0Q_AUIECgC&biw=360&bih=512&dpr=3
They are kids!
You act like anyone should give a shit about some jackwagons rant. Get over it.Get over myself? Whatever dude, so your on record that it is ok to personally attack people because they don't play well. There is a difference MORON between personally attacking someone and being critical of there play. I guess its sad that you cannot tell the difference. I also re read what I wrote, please point out where I said anything about being Superior? Un huh, just as I thought.
I think OP is being a little over sensitive here.
A) Yes they are 18-22. Again, doesn't absolve them from criticism
B) You again listed Stanley's career stats and called him "inconsistent." That is just excusing the problem, not acknowledging it.
C) And being overly reactionary/negative comes with every loss. Or are you new to sports?
You going from thread to thread with the same 'ol rant about everybody being hatefulGet over myself? Whatever dude, so your on record that it is ok to personally attack people because they don't play well. There is a difference MORON between personally attacking someone and being critical of there play. I guess its sad that you cannot tell the difference. I also re read what I wrote, please point out where I said anything about being Superior? Un huh, just as I thought.
Well said. And scotthawk, you need to understand a lot of these mid-game / post-game forum comments are overly angry bc they are alcohol-fueled, which I see as normal. Booze does that. Your repeated comments of calling people pricks and a$$holes were tiresome. Most probably re-checked their forum comments after a night's sleep and realized how dramatic they were. They don't need you here to shake a stern finger in disapproval.You contradict yourself though.......I didn't "personally" attack Nate and you indicated to me that I was a child. I was merely saying I was frustrated with his play and the decision making in general by the coaches. They almost had to work hard to lose this game. I think Nate is probably a fine young man, probably a pretty good student and I thank him for picking Iowa. However, giving opinions (good or bad) are what these boards are for and being a fan in general is all about. The fact is that Iowa has a pretty good defense this year and are completely wasting it. So, you might want to get over yourself to be honest.......
Sounds like OP is reacting the same as 9 out of 10 Iowa fans on this board. Go Cats!I think OP is being a little over sensitive here.
A) Yes they are 18-22. Again, doesn't absolve them from criticism
B) You again listed Stanley's career stats and called him "inconsistent." That is just excusing the problem, not acknowledging it.
C) And being overly reactionary/negative comes with every loss. Or are you new to sports?
Spot on.Why, every time Iowa loses do we have fans that come here and take the loss personally and make a complete ass of themselves on the board? Every loss, it does not matter to who, what or how the game went down. It is ok to be critical, but I read so many threads here are just plain down right hateful. We all know Stanley did not have a great game, but for people to personally attack him like he just raped your daughter is ridiculous. Hell, one asshole even had to say he was retarded when doing his interviews. Really, that is a grown up thing to say? These are 18, 19 and 20 year old kids that make mistakes. Like I said, being critical is fine, but the constant trashing of players and coaches after every single loss is disgraceful. If any of the coaches or players personally hurt you, by all means call them out, but no one feels worse about a loss then the team. And for you people who say Stanley sucks, remember this. Before today's game, Stanley has thrown 42 TD's to 12 INT's. Has he been inconsistent, yes, but suck, NO. If you want Mansell, fine, but stop trashing Stanley on a personal basis. My 12 year old is more mature then half the people here. Rant over, Penn State over. Move on people, or get a hobby.
Not entirely true. They owe us plently. They owe us not to be knuckleheads, to try their hardest every game, to preform to the level they capable and to put the school and program in the best light possible. Most players do that, for us thank god, 99 percent of the time
Problem was today with Nate being so inexcusably bad, missing "middle school throws," I think its far to question whether he met two of those four things. Do I think he tried his hardest? Yes I do. Do I think he came close to preforming to a level he is capable. No I do not.
Well that took an interesting turnThey "owe" you something? What a completely foolish thing to say. You owe me a blowjob
Not entirely true. They owe us plenty.
They "owe" you something? What a completely foolish thing to say. You owe me a blowjob
What exactly are we classifying as a personal attack? I haven’t read All of the Stanley threads, but I haven’t seen any personal attacks on the couple I have read. Stanley and the coaches for keeping him in the game cost Iowa the game yesterday, plain and simple. When you come play big boy football, you open yourself up to criticism. Personal attacks, not cool. But again, I haven’t really seen any of those.
Geesh. Check out Mr. Virgin Ears over here. He called him a mental midget.. Arrest that man!There has been plenty. One idiot went as far as calling him a mental midget.
Well actually, I loaned Wirfs a $1000 two years ago, so he owes me.Whether or not they are “kids” is irrelevant to the fact that they owe nobody here anything
The least he could have done is score on that last play thenWell actually, I loaned Wirfs a $1000 two years ago, so he owes me.
There has been plenty. One idiot went as far as calling him a mental midget.
If I posted that Miguel Recinos was a mental midget knowing that there was a good chance that his dad, a frequent contributor here, would see, would you tell him (when he almost definitely would become reasonably offended) to get a thicker skin? Or would you call me out for being a tool, anonymously bagging on somebody online because they didn’t play football up to my standard?This is the personal attack you are referring to. Good grief, get a thicker skin.
This is the personal attack you are referring to. Good grief, get a thicker skin.
That is one example yes. You need to get a life if you think personally attacking any student-athlete is acceptable.
I never said it was acceptable. I do think if you are going to play big boy football, you better learn to handle criticism and negative things said about you. Get some thicker skin. I wonder how you handle a tough boss. Go cry in the corner?
And in response to parents of players posting here. I am sure Nate’s parents realize he didn’t play well. It would be foolish of them to come around to a message board where anonymous “fanatics” hang out.
And it's a game not life and death.If they were serving in the military at their age would they still be kids? If they killed someone, would they be tried as an adult or as a juvenile?
You define them as kids. Society disagrees with you.
Frightening thought that.These are not “kids.” You graduate high school and are 18? You’re an adult.
Age means nothing its just a number doesnt change how you think.
Even kids get frustrated. At 43 i would be hard pressed to say i act any different then when i was 18.
These forums are more for venting then anything else and its better here then possibly out in the real world.
Not entirely true. They owe us plently. They owe us not to be knuckleheads, to try their hardest every game, to preform to the level they capable and to put the school and program in the best light possible. Most players do that, for us thank god, 99 percent of the time.
Problem was today with Nate being so inexcusably bad, missing "middle school throws," I think its far to question whether he met two of those four things. Do I think he tried his hardest? Yes I do. Do I think he came close to preforming to a level he is capable. No I do not.
Let me know when you find a player that performs to the level they're capable all the time. That's an impossible bar to set.
I never said it was acceptable. I do think if you are going to play big boy football, you better learn to handle criticism and negative things said about you. Get some thicker skin. I wonder how you handle a tough boss. Go cry in the corner?
And in response to parents of players posting here. I am sure Nate’s parents realize he didn’t play well. It would be foolish of them to come around to a message board where anonymous “fanatics” hang out.
I saw about 20 other starters do that on Saturday
That's one game. I've seen every player do it from time to time. None that do it always. You implied that a player owes it to us to play up to the level their capable of. I contend that no player can do that every play, every game. So being upset that Stanley didn't give us what he owes us is just plain stupid.
I think your confusing "maximum level of attainable skill" with "level he is capable."
I'll use video game rarings comparison, if a player is a 84 overall in expect him to preform like an 84 overall. Sure the stars night align and he might play like a 92. Or he might have an off day and perform like a 78. Its not ok for him to perform like a 43. Stanley was a 43
It happens with every fan base. People on the PSU board want to fire the coaches even when we win, if we don’t win by enough in their view. Fans somehow feel entitled to trash the players and coaches, but it’s just wrong. The internet anonymity brings out the worst in some people.Why, every time Iowa loses do we have fans that come here and take the loss personally and make a complete ass of themselves on the board? Every loss, it does not matter to who, what or how the game went down. It is ok to be critical, but I read so many threads here are just plain down right hateful. We all know Stanley did not have a great game, but for people to personally attack him like he just raped your daughter is ridiculous. Hell, one asshole even had to say he was retarded when doing his interviews. Really, that is a grown up thing to say? These are 18, 19 and 20 year old kids that make mistakes. Like I said, being critical is fine, but the constant trashing of players and coaches after every single loss is disgraceful. If any of the coaches or players personally hurt you, by all means call them out, but no one feels worse about a loss then the team. And for you people who say Stanley sucks, remember this. Before today's game, Stanley has thrown 42 TD's to 12 INT's. Has he been inconsistent, yes, but suck, NO. If you want Mansell, fine, but stop trashing Stanley on a personal basis. My 12 year old is more mature then half the people here. Rant over, Penn State over. Move on people, or get a hobby.
Doesn't even have to be a loss and they trash playersWhy, every time Iowa loses do we have fans that come here and take the loss personally and make a complete ass of themselves on the board? Every loss, it does not matter to who, what or how the game went down. It is ok to be critical, but I read so many threads here are just plain down right hateful. We all know Stanley did not have a great game, but for people to personally attack him like he just raped your daughter is ridiculous. Hell, one asshole even had to say he was retarded when doing his interviews. Really, that is a grown up thing to say? These are 18, 19 and 20 year old kids that make mistakes. Like I said, being critical is fine, but the constant trashing of players and coaches after every single loss is disgraceful. If any of the coaches or players personally hurt you, by all means call them out, but no one feels worse about a loss then the team. And for you people who say Stanley sucks, remember this. Before today's game, Stanley has thrown 42 TD's to 12 INT's. Has he been inconsistent, yes, but suck, NO. If you want Mansell, fine, but stop trashing Stanley on a personal basis. My 12 year old is more mature then half the people here. Rant over, Penn State over. Move on people, or get a hobby.
'Trash players', lol. Do you need an emotional support doggy, sweety?Doesn't even have to be a loss and they trash players