Concerns mount, ISU Cyclones losing season

[burk11]

See Des Moines Register article in today's paper. Is this a real concern for the Cyclone faithful, or just DMR newspaper filler?

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...05f7b91d30&from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=

 

[Rustys Dad]

I've been shocked for the past 3 years that Jackson is still their coach. Great wrestler in his day. Nice guy (I interviewed him for a feature article during my days at the ISU newspaper) ... He's simply not getting it done. He's getting decent recruits but it's just not happening on the mat. In my opinion, ISU should always be a Top 10 program (history, popularity of wrestling in Iowa, facilities, fan support - although I'm not up to speed on ISU fan interest current time).

 

[Azchief32]

This is how it starts. AD leaks that he is "concerned" with the progress and it becomes news. It does three things: Puts the current coach in the hot seat, validates fans concerns, and starts letting other coaches know ISU may be in play. If ISU finishes in the top ten, his job is safe for another year. If they have 0 or maybe 1 AAs, then he is gone IMO.

 

[madmustang4]

Backing up couple steps,
AD puts head in sand and keeps it there until big donors start complaining that wrestling program sucks.
Then AD has to take some action thus the DMR article.

 

[Fan In Black]

They should talk to MSU. Just kidding bud...we good.

 

[whejoe]

I wonder what MitchL thinks about this article......

 

[HawkwardEncounter]

Pollard is a lousy AD. Letting two of the best coaches that they have ever had get away will be his legacy. I can't believe he received an extension. Pollard won't fix the problem, it will probably get worse. They will probably pomote the Paulson brothers to be co-head coaches. I love to hate state, but it makes the Hawks better, when they are better.

 

[championhawk]

What's bad for Iowa State is great for Iowa. This state doesn't produce enough talent for 1 top program. The more irrelevant they are the better.

 

[YoungGun07]

I like ISU being down because it seems like they recruit head to head vs UNI more than Iowa. I do miss how competitive the dual meet was year in and year out.

 

[Stanley75]

The sport of wrestling needs more quality programs not less. I hope ISU makes a comeback.

 

[dhm47]

This is how it starts. AD leaks that he is "concerned" with the progress and it becomes news. It does three things: Puts the current coach in the hot seat, validates fans concerns, and starts letting other coaches know ISU may be in play. If ISU finishes in the top ten, his job is safe for another year. If they have 0 or maybe 1 AAs, then he is gone IMO.

Top 10, Top 10 Playoffs, Playoffs (Think Jim Mora)then google

 

[MitchL]

I wonder what MitchL thinks about this article......

Randy consulted with me before he wrote it. Told him that there were two ways to look at it.
1. Status quo... never sniff the top ten again.

2. Sacrifice a recruiting class and get someone better.

I laugh at the only reason to keep him. Supposedly two good recruiting classes back to back. But we all know what happens when those top guys enter the room.

 

[SPOONER]

See Des Moines Register article in today's paper. Is this a real concern for the Cyclone faithful, or just DMR newspaper filler?

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...05f7b91d30&from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=

"Concern"? Should be reason for excitement.

 

[MitchL]

"Concern"? Should be reason for excitement.

well... you know the tide is turning against KJ when even the eternal blind optimist "Buffy" thinks it might be a possibility.

If I had a farm to bet... I'd wager he's gone.

 

[tiltman]

At one point I hoped ISU would get good again for the in state rivalry, but anymore I'd rather see UNI become a consistent top 10 team for a good rivalry.

 

[MepoDawg#]

At one point I hoped ISU would get good again for the in state rivalry, but anymore I'd rather see UNI become a consistent top 10 team for a good rivalry.

Iowa and UNI would have to consistently schedule duals to have any rivalry.

 

[Lsanders20]

The sport of wrestling needs more quality programs not less. I hope ISU makes a comeback.

I feel like the Hawks are the old Iowa State. Placing in top 5 almost every year but always a let down at Nationals. PSU unfortunately is the old Hawks. Total domination. Hopefully the Hawks surge in 2019.

 

[Ihawkd9times]

Pollard is a lousy AD. Letting two of the best coaches that they have ever had get away will be his legacy. I can't believe he received an extension. Pollard won't fix the problem, it will probably get worse. They will probably pomote the Paulson brothers to be co-head coaches. I love to hate state, but it makes the Hawks better, when they are better.

I never looked at it that way but yes, not being able to retain Cael and the mayor gets a free pass to easily. Plus he fired their best football coach in McCartney and never quite replaced it or gotten better.

 

[El-Jefe]

This is how it starts. AD leaks that he is "concerned" with the progress and it becomes news. It does three things: Puts the current coach in the hot seat, validates fans concerns, and starts letting other coaches know ISU may be in play. If ISU finishes in the top ten, his job is safe for another year. If they have 0 or maybe 1 AAs, then he is gone IMO.

What happens when PD3 pins his way thru 3 weight classes this year?

 

[CumberlandHawk]

This is how it starts. AD leaks that he is "concerned" with the progress and it becomes news. It does three things: Puts the current coach in the hot seat, validates fans concerns, and starts letting other coaches know ISU may be in play. If ISU finishes in the top ten, his job is safe for another year. If they have 0 or maybe 1 AAs, then he is gone

Thats a terribly low standard if you ask me. I would think less than 3 gets him gone but you are probably right. They dont seem to care much these days.

 

[CumberlandHawk]

somehow my comment ended up in the quote. I suck at computers lol.

 

[Azchief32]

What happens when PD3 pins his way thru 3 weight classes this year?

PD2 gets hired...FACT!

 

[1stplacehawk]

PD2 gets hired...FACT!

I would become a season ticket holder to watch that

 

[jvclark]

What's bad for Iowa State is great for Iowa. This state doesn't produce enough talent for 1 top program. The more irrelevant they are the better.

Let's face it. If we are worried about losing recruits to our little sisters in Ames, then we will never have to worry about catching up to PSU. It wasn't always this way, but their recruits and what we need to win titles again, should rarely, if ever meet in the same sentence.

 

[Herkuleez5]

PD2 gets hired...FACT!

Easy there 21RedRiders!!!

 

[PapaBearSLIM]

PD2 gets hired...FACT!

Not sure that the team would take to kindly to that.
http://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/oklahoma-dual.225828/page-3#post-5546541

No "I" in team but there is a "me"

 

[ih8iast8]

That's gold.

 

[KujawaFan]

I just saw that. So PD3, the same guy who has ducked everyone all year while his teammates are getting curb stomped, has more heart than the rest of the team combined?! I know PD2 is a deranged lunatic but way to throw your kid under the bus to the team. I mean Crazy Dad got his room info on the team from someone.

 

[KujawaFan]

Holy hell PD2 really doubled down today. Unreal. I can't post links but Dear God.

 

[MitchL]

Holy hell PD2 really doubled down today. Unreal. I can't post links but Dear God.

Pretty sure his act has gotten old. Old man even attacked Lil Buffy..

 

[KujawaFan]

I agree. As a Father of a couple athletes myself PD2 is so sad to watch. He used to be more amusing and pathetic but now it is unlike about anything I have ever seen. Challenging people with threats of broken jaws and posting on a Clown board his boy's junior club has more heart than the current Clown team?! While he may be right, sure the guys on the team love those comments. And by the way, at least they actually wrestle.

 

[dunkej01]

can we start a gofund me page to get PD2 on here. half goes to his shrink and the other half to wrestling 4 life?

it would be message board gold.

 

[KujawaFan]

Great idea. With the way he is he could have a personal live-in shrink and wrestling for life would have a war chest!

 

[MitchL]

Am I the only one who thinks if Lil Dooney loses against Boyd today...we might hear of some mysterious season-ending injury?

 

[Knight563]

Am I the only one who thinks if Lil Dooney loses against Boyd today...we might hear of some mysterious season-ending injury?

He's not wrestling today.

 

[GG121AND2]

I always appreciate the mentions. Thanks.

 

[MitchL]

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He's not wrestling today.

Yeast infection flared up again?

 

[KujawaFan]

Unreal. He must be unseeded period. What a joke. I have never seen a bigger pussy especially with he and his Dad chirping. According to Dad and Son no reason to wrestle at all until March. Horrible for the sport.

 

[ih8iast8]

Unreal. He must be unseeded period. What a joke. I have never seen a bigger pussy especially with he and his Dad chirping. According to Dad and Son no reason to wrestle at all until March. Horrible for the sport.

His conditioning is sure to be spot on.

 

[Azchief32]

can we start a gofund me page to get PD2 on here. half goes to his shrink and the other half to wrestling 4 life?

it would be message board gold.

He came on once but it didn't take.